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Why isn't there a suicide awareness topic?
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Suicide facts and statistics

?   1 million people across the globe die by suicide each year. That?s one suicide every 40 seconds.

?   More people die by suicide each year than by murder and war combined.

?   Suicide is the second biggest cause of death worldwide among 15-19 year olds.

?   Suicide is estimated to be under-reported for reasons of stigma, religion and social attitudes. Many suicides are hidden among other causes of death, such as road traffic accidents and drowning.

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I hope the statics actually reach out to people..

Many people think suicide is stupid and pointless, that's what I used to think, but that is changing. It's frustrating as many suicides can be prevented, yet people don't reach out to the people with suicidal thoughts quicker enough, it's a time bomb. In some cases, it's unpreventable.

I personally think people should be more aware of suicide, because how do you know a loved one won't just do it later?

I have personally known at least 4 people in my life who end their life...

Discussion time: Try not to be hurtful as suicide is a sensitises subject. Have you ever felt suicidal? Do you know anyone who has? What would you do, if you knew someone was feeling suicidal? What are your opinions on suicide?

thecoolguy

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I have thought about suicide not too long ago, trying to figure out exactly what the pros and cons were.

The biggest pro that I think you'll get is the peace, nothing you have to worry about.
I think you can also achieve that using other methods, though ending your life is the easiest way of doing so.
And a con, which you've already said in your topic, people near you might have the same feel later, and you could've started a chain of deaths.
Also the pain, for how short it might be, would be immense.

I don't believe I will ever be able to commit suicide just because I don't have the balls for it.

Alexthementalone

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Most of the causes for suicide are depression. Usually this depression comes from school/social activities.

My advice is for those people that are depressed out there just to think of the positives of life, perhaps join a club, so its interaction, which could then lead to a new friend. Which is a positive. Try and block out all the depressing/Frustrating aspects of life and focus on the good things.

Echo!

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Also the pain, for how short it might be, would be immense.

If someone wants out, why does 1 minute of pain mater? They've probably been suffering for 10 years with something.  

I don't believe I will ever be able to commit suicide just because I don't have the balls for it.

It's not about not being brave enough.

My advice is for those people that are depressed out there just to think of the positives of life, .

I don't think people realize how hard that is.

skullz17

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Suicide occurs because life is underestimated.

Unfortunately Euthanasia is illegal in this country. But I guess you can argue that if it was legal, there would be a lot more suicides and more deaths. Still, people need to have a choice.

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SilverStar

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I really don't think it's supid and pointless, but I'll cry for anyone considering it. I know you are, Echo. I'm crying, no joke.

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treejoe4

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I really don't think it's supid and pointless, but I'll cry for anyone considering it. I know you are, Echo. I'm crying, no joke.

Apart from people with serious terminal illness, or any other circumstance with horrible physical pain, suicide is pointless and pointless. It doesn't solve anything, it just stops everything.

If a 12 year old committed suicide because they were bullied at school, or if a relative passed away, or some other emotional trauma, would that be stupid? Of course it would be.

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Echo!

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I really don't think it's supid and pointless, but I'll cry for anyone considering it. I know you are, Echo. I'm crying, no joke.

Apart from people with serious terminal illness, or any other circumstance with horrible physical pain, suicide is pointless and pointless. It doesn't solve anything, it just stops everything.

If a 12 year old committed suicide because they were bullied at school, or if a relative passed away, or some other emotional trauma, would that be stupid? Of course it would be.

From your point of view, yes. Some people are stronger than others. That's all it is.

Bobithan

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I have to agree with treejoe on this one. No matter how horrible things are for you in the present, there is always the future. The future could be anything, no matter how impossible, and I, for one, don't want to miss it, and I don't want you to either.

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Echo!

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I have to agree with treejoe on this one. No matter how horrible things are for you in the present, there is always the future. The future could be anything, no matter how impossible, and I, for one, don't want to miss it, and I don't want you to either.

Uh yeah, but how do you know things will just get better? It's hard to carry on having hope after 17 years of calamities and pain.

tak4n

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This is why I love everybody edits and the forums. The community here is very nice when it comes to depression. One of the best gaming communities out there. The forums helped me many times to get over depressions even though my topics were just attention seeking, people understood and responded positively.
On the note of suicide, people should really get some help. Some positive attention overall. It helps every time.

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My tip would to be yourself, it works for me and I have a really high self-esteem level because of it.

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Echo!

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My tip would to be yourself, it works for me and I have a really high self-esteem level because of it.

I am already me, I'm not pretending to be anyone? Am I getting confused?

Tako

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Alright, I have a pretty radical view on suicide prevention. This is just my opinion.

There should be less suicide prevention. Suicide 'victims' feel, as I understand, burdened with the sense of entrapment or existential worthlessness. The former can and should be prevented. Nobody should be pushed into suicide.

But when you make the direct conclusion that you want to commit suicide based upon little to no outside force, I say go ahead, in the name of freedom. I believe individuals should make their own choices as long as they do not infringe on the choices of other people. This type of suicide prevention is, in a sense, molding them and forcing them to go through hoops until they're a completely different person mentally. That's inhumane. In the name of humanity and being compassionate, go ahead and talk to them all you want. But don't strap them to a table or put them in a padded room until they meet your goals.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

treejoe4

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Suicide should always be prevented from happening, unless the individual is terminally ill etc.

People who would want to die, and now don't would be happy because everyone tried to stop them.

rocktheworld313

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In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. -Robert Frost

A man who dares to waste one hour of time has not discovered the value of life. -Charles Darwin

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out. -Anton Chekhov

Edit: For the great 1234th post, I have brought you another quote from BrainyQuotes!

When I hear somebody sigh, 'Life is hard,' I am always tempted to ask, 'Compared to what?' -Sydney J. Harris

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Tako

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In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. -Robert Frost

A man who dares to waste one hour of time has not discovered the value of life. -Charles Darwin

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out. -Anton Chekhov

Edit: For the great 1234th post, I have brought you another quote from BrainyQuotes!

When I hear somebody sigh, 'Life is hard,' I am always tempted to ask, 'Compared to what?' -Sydney J. Harris

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to draw from these quotes. Suicide is unimportant and excusable?

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Redhat

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Alright, I have a pretty radical view on suicide prevention. This is just my opinion.

There should be less suicide prevention. Suicide 'victims' feel, as I understand, burdened with the sense of entrapment or existential worthlessness. The former can and should be prevented. Nobody should be pushed into suicide.

But when you make the direct conclusion that you want to commit suicide based upon little to no outside force, I say go ahead, in the name of freedom. I believe individuals should make their own choices as long as they do not infringe on the choices of other people. This type of suicide prevention is, in a sense, molding them and forcing them to go through hoops until they're a completely different person mentally. That's inhumane. In the name of humanity and being compassionate, go ahead and talk to them all you want. But don't strap them to a table or put them in a padded room until they meet your goals.

this!!!
My brother committed suicide a short time ago, he told me exactly the same, and I understood his reasons.

If you choice to commit suicide, you will die.
If you don't, you will die.
it's just two different ways to reach the same consequence.

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Echo!

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My brother committed suicide a short time ago, he told me exactly the same, and I understood his reasons.

I'd hate to dig up the past. But when he told you how did you just accept such a big thing? When my brother did it, he never said he was going to, I didn't understand why he did, I do now.

treejoe4

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Alright, I have a pretty radical view on suicide prevention. This is just my opinion.

There should be less suicide prevention. Suicide 'victims' feel, as I understand, burdened with the sense of entrapment or existential worthlessness. The former can and should be prevented. Nobody should be pushed into suicide.

But when you make the direct conclusion that you want to commit suicide based upon little to no outside force, I say go ahead, in the name of freedom. I believe individuals should make their own choices as long as they do not infringe on the choices of other people. This type of suicide prevention is, in a sense, molding them and forcing them to go through hoops until they're a completely different person mentally. That's inhumane. In the name of humanity and being compassionate, go ahead and talk to them all you want. But don't strap them to a table or put them in a padded room until they meet your goals.

this!!!
My brother committed suicide a short time ago, he told me exactly the same, and I understood his reasons.

If you choice to commit suicide, you will die.
If you don't, you will die.
it's just two different ways to reach the same consequence.

.....But one way is living your life, one is cutting it short to solve problems that are hard. That's an awful way to justify suicide.

Arceus64

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Life is a gift. While suicide is apparently just another early road to death, I find it hardly with any benefits. Thinking about suicide will make you feel worse. Committing it will only bring more suffering to everyone else. It's better to live life then to cut it short. That's not our purpose here.

Sorry for being so one-sided. If I seem like a d*ck, I'm sorry.

Tako

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.....But one way is living your life, one is cutting it short to solve problems that are hard. That's an awful way to justify suicide.

Suicide should always be prevented from happening, unless the individual is terminally ill etc.

I think some positions are equal if not worse than being terminally ill. There are a plethora of situations that would call for suicide, most of which I can't even fathom. What justification do you have that allows you to dismiss all of them?

That the only problem I have with suicide prevention. Nobody cares about what the individual feels; they just jump to the conclusion they're mentally insane or incapable of reason and are making a mistake.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

treejoe4

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'Nobody cares about what the individual feels; they just jump to the conclusion they're mentally insane or incapable of reason and are making a mistake.'

completely wrong, suicide in general is a mistake

as far as i know, people don't call people insane for suicide, they just don't get why they can't snap out of it

AsurcH

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I have a friend(well kind of) who has suicided in the past. He thought he would be unable to get rid of all his loans and stuff so he suicided. The only thing he brought was sorrow and loans to his family and friends.

  There are ways to escape suicidal thoughts, however you cant explain them to someone who would want to do it. As far as I have seen, people dont commit suicide because they feel worthless. It is something more complicated, like they just want to find an exit that leads to nowhere.

  The way I would prevent myself from suiciding is, I have a life motto that at some point of my life I have to be useful for someone/something. So my life would worth to continue and make something achieved. By thinking of I haven't done anything important so far, I just can't commit suicide and won't. My logic overcomes my emotions at this point. However the one suiciding would always think about everyone related to him, how they would act without him around and what will be left to them. They just don't suicide like "oh hey bro lets suicide today n stuff". They are more likely to protest life or make their life worth more by ending it sooner.

  As if you can, you should prevent these actions, yeah. But I don't actually feel sorry for those who committed suicide. They know what they have done and the results pretty well. They haven't chosen to come to this world so they chose to get out from it. Also well, natural selection and stuff.

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Tako

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They haven't chosen to come to this world so they chose to get out from it. Also well, natural selection and stuff.

That's an interesting point you bring up.

completely wrong, suicide in general is a mistake

Once again, I ask you: where is your justification? Are you incapable of understanding some people live a different life than your own? You're trying to tell me you can see into the minds of every person that has committed suicide, and I'm not buying it.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.