Bomb at the Boston Marathon

Onjit · Before February 2015

I don't hat on other people for being upset. I hate on people who expect me to be upset and ostricise me for not doing so. Whether or not I choose to mourn their deaths is my decision and I should not have to worry about being judged for it.

Different55 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

I never said Americans should or should not get worried or sad when a terrorist attack happens there, but at the end of the day, it is not a huge problem nor a real danger.

I agree, at the end of the day, life goes on for most of us. It's not a huge problem, it was a lone event and nothing similar will probably happen for another few years. But people died. Things blew up. How was there not danger?

treejoe4 wrote:

And no one realizes this, if terrorism's purpose is to cause mass panic, the media is only helping the purpose of it. This doesn't mean it is not news worthy, it just highlights that the media in general is not formal enough when it comes to serious issues.

People dying generally inspires fear in the people that are left. The media not covering it or telling the story in a different way isn't going to change that.

treejoe4 wrote:

Even if a bomb goes off every single day in the Middle East, it still should be reported, because it is a very serious issue that no one seems to care about.

treejoe4 wrote:

It also annoys me when people take this attack personally, the use of the word 'we' has come up. Stop thinking in caveman morals people, there is only 'we' as in human beings, not Americans, British etc.

This part really amuses me, considering that you are borderline racist against Americans.

Tachyonic · Before February 2015

For something surprisingly minor, it sure does have a lot of publicity.

7/7 never got as much as this!

Master1 · Before February 2015

God guys would everyone just stop fighting and calm down. Every country has a right to be sad when things like this happen. Every country expresses its feelings in a different way. If America wants everyone to know, then they have a right to let everyone know. If telling everyone about a bomb going off bothers you that much, then just go do what prune said.

On a side note, aren't moderators supposed to help stop these fights? I only see you guys taking sides, and not even trying to stop anything. This topic has become one huge flame war.

Different55 · Before February 2015

Master1 wrote:

God guys would everyone just stop fighting and calm down. Every country has a right to be sad when things like this happen. Every country expresses its feelings in a different way. If America wants everyone to know, then they have a right to let everyone know. If telling everyone about a bomb going off bothers you that much, then just go do what prune said.
On a side note, aren't moderators supposed to help stop these fights? I only see you guys taking sides, and not even trying to stop anything. This topic has become one huge flame war.

That doesn't mean we can't express our opinions, and while it started off flame-y that's calmed down now.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Americans aren't a race, how can I be racist if Americans aren't a race? Most of my favorite bands, books, movies are from America, stop inventing your own facts.

Different55 · Before February 2015

Fine then, borderline nationalist, but you know what I meant and you locked onto that and ignored everything else in the post.

GKAbyss · Before February 2015

I think many people believe that they are unable to do anything about bombings in other countries, and are less inclined to stop problems in other countries because it is not a major concern for them. If there are bombs going off in their own country they feel a sense of danger that they would like to fix. It may have contributed to the fear of communism in America during the cold war. There was a constant fear of nuclear war, and it resulted in accusations and fear of communists/communism as an attempt to stop the problem.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

Fine then, borderline nationalist, but you know what I meant and you locked onto that and ignored everything else in the post.

There is little point in arguing with you, my points are clear. Compared to the rest of the world, the bombings are not as big of an issue as you think they are.

The danger presented in the media is complete and utter overkill.

How can I be nationalist? I hate patriotism!

DK Levels · Before February 2015

About the "Why do people care about America bombings but not the Middle East bombings"
Basically, the media uses what sells. What sells is shocking news because it's something different to your everyday life, it disrupts like an "equilibrium" that you're used to seeing everyday.
America being bombed = Shocking and doesn't happen often
Middle East being bombed = Not shocking considering there is war there and happens often.
The media doesn't report on the middle east because there would be too many bombings to report and people eventually wouldn't feel as bad because it's a regular thing therefore papers wouldn't sell or articles wouldn't be read.
However in America , bombings of such nature don't happen often, so when they do they obviously get more coverage because it's shocking...

I think bombings are bad wherever they are, and it's such a shame when people have to lose their lives that way but you can't blame the media, because it's a business, they do it so they make money and they have to put in their papers,articles etc whatever sells.

Different55 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

Different55 wrote:
Fine then, borderline nationalist, but you know what I meant and you locked onto that and ignored everything else in the post.
There is little point in arguing with you, my points are clear. Compared to the rest of the world, the bombings are not as big of an issue as you think they are

I agreed with half the points you made in this topic, including the fact that the bombings here aren't as bad as other people have it.

Different55 wrote:

I agree, at the end of the day, life goes on for most of us. It's not a huge problem, it was a lone event and nothing similar will probably happen for another few years.

But like Tako's image said, that doesn't mean we can't get upset.

treejoe4 wrote:

How can I be nationalist? I hate patriotism!

That doesn't make any sense. You don't have to love your country to hate another country.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

nationalism is a feeling that one?s country is superior, I've never defended a country in that way

and I never said people can't get upset

Different55 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

nationalism is a feeling that one?s country is superior, I've never defended a country in that way

*sigh* You know what I'm trying to say. You've made it clear you hate America, and that's what I'm referring to.

treejoe4 wrote:

and I never said people can't get upset

Correct

Master1 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

and I never said people can't get upset

Why make such a big deal about it then?

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

I posted my opinion about it, then people butthurt, naturally I want to correct them.

Last edited by treejoe4 (Apr 17 2013 4:43:56 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

It's an opinion. You can't be correct. If you've stated your opinion and everyone understands it then why continue?

Last edited by Different55 (Apr 17 2013 4:54:13 pm)

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Opinions can be correct.

Americans aren't in any realistic danger = Fact

The media is increasing the fear or terrorism = Fact

The attack is not that huge compared to the rest of the world = Fact

Last edited by treejoe4 (Apr 17 2013 5:02:39 pm)

soccerfreak006 · Before February 2015

It's a terrible thing that someone would do something this terrible just to make people have fear. The terrorist isn't going to get anywhere in life just by blowing things up and killing people. Unfortunately, attacks in aimed at Americans have been increasing, so I have to with a sad heart say that we should expect more tragedies to occur. This is the best time to be a patriot I think because if Americans can stick to being proud of their country and living a life where they have trust, the terrorists will eventually give up. They can't go on forever. DKlevels, the reason why there isn't as much coverage of the Iranian bombings is because America isn't usually attacked like this. I feel terrible about the Iranian bombings but as an American I don't often hear about attacks outside of our country if one has happened within the States.

Different55 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

Opinions can be correct.
Americans aren't in any realistic danger = Fact
The media is increasing the fear or terrorism = Fact
The attack is not that huge compared to the rest of the world = Fact

Yeah, but they're not your opinion. They're all facts. The two parts of your post are completely irrelevant. You say opinions can be correct then list a bunch of facts that have nothing to do with the first part of the post. Those aren't your opinions they're just facts. Facts that everybody in this topic has acknowledged already so either bring up something new or get out and stop repeating the same things over and over.

Last edited by Different55 (Apr 17 2013 5:35:26 pm)

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

treejoe4 wrote:
Opinions can be correct.
Americans aren't in any realistic danger = Fact
The media is increasing the fear or terrorism = Fact
The attack is not that huge compared to the rest of the world = Fact
Yeah, but they're not your opinion. They're all facts. The two parts of your post are completely irrelevant. You say opinions can be correct then list a bunch of facts that have nothing to do with the first part of the post. Those aren't your opinions they're just facts. Facts that everybody in this topic has acknowledged already so either bring up something new or get out and stop repeating the same things over and over.

What are you talking about?

DKlevels, you can blame the media, because they are meant to inform the public, not to produce garbage to get viewers.

Last edited by treejoe4 (Apr 17 2013 5:37:48 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

The amount of thought and effort you put into that post is mind-blowing.
*sigh* Here we go:

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450064#p450064
"Now the whole world has to listen to America whine for months about something which is committed daily in other parts of the world."
More bombs go off in other places - 1

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450071#p450071
"Everyone whines when a bomb goes off in developed countries, but not one tear is shed when countless numbers are killed monthly in other parts of the world."
More bombs go off in other places - 2

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450073#p450073
"They don't see the other bombings because they do not care, the news only shows stories that sell."
Media is hiding things - 1

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450075#p450075
"The media shows what people want
I'm done here." *cough* bullsnot *cough*
Media is hiding things - 2

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450077#p450077
"Compared to the rest of the world, where bombings happen weekly, you are 99.99% safe from a terrorist attack. Don't let the media guide you into paranoid attitudes."
More bombs go off in other places - 3
America is not in danger - 1
Media is increasing fear - 1

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450271#p450271
"i think you should apologize to me for making out that i don't this attack doesn't matter"
America is not in danger - 2

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450418#p450418
"The US gets a terrorist attack every couple of years, the Middle East is blown to bits daily by religious nuts and US military ignorance."
More bombs go off in other places - 4

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450437#p450437
"Elsewhere in this big planet, attacks are weekly, if you ask me, that is a much bigger issue than some nut in America."
More bombs go off in other places - 5
America is not in danger - 3

http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=450506#p450506
"it is not a huge problem nor a real danger."
"terrorism's purpose is to cause mass panic, the media is only helping the purpose of it."
Media is increasing fear - 2
America is not in danger - 4

Final count:
Media is increasing fear - 2
Media is hiding things - 2
America is not in danger - 4
More bombs go off in other places - 5

You haven't brought anything new up in a while. Do so or leave, please, because without anything new this topic cannot progress.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Was everything in the topic directed towards you?

Raiden · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

Was everything in the topic directed towards you?

That doesn't matter. Whoever all the posts were directed towards to, you still repeated them, with most of them all having one of the four points Different55 posted above.

In my opinion, the bombing was a disgusting and vile act. No matter where any bombs are set off, they were all set off by sick humans. To me, this bombing is more important than the ones in the Middle East. This doesn't mean that the Boston Bombing was necessarily worse than everything in the Middle East, but to me, it was. The Boston Bombing was closer to where I live, so I'd be more shocked about hearing that, then the fact there was a bomb in the Middle East.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Ok then I guess I will just make up words when arguing, quote famous people and talk about how my day went

Last edited by treejoe4 (Apr 18 2013 8:46:53 am)

Different55 · Before February 2015

treejoe4 wrote:

Was everything in the topic directed towards you?

no, but everything in the topic was available for everyone to read. You don't need to repeat something directly to a person when everyone has already read it.

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