Echo's Rants.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

It WAS. I was failing, I probably would've flunked. I couldn't pay attention to the work sitting right in front of me. Even when I tried hard to focus, 10 seconds later I'd catch myself daydreaming again, or tapping out one of the drumline cadences instead of doing my work. The zombification and loss of appetite was worth not having to repeat a grade unnecessarily.

I'm still standing by my statement.

Different55 · Before February 2015

Which one? That ADHD doesn't exist or that meds should be a last resort?

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

Which one? That ADHD doesn't exist or that meds should be a last resort?

It's just behavioral issues, in some very last resort, and I mean very last resort maybe drugs are an option for a child that continues to misbehave.

Different55 · Before February 2015

It is NOT behavioral issues, and I don't appreciate you telling me I'm misbehaving when I and many others are trying hard to focus. ADHD is caused by having smaller amounts of that one chemical between the neurons in the brain. It's an actual, physical thing. Not a misbehaving person.

Last edited by Different55 (Dec 12 2012 2:30:33 am)

Jeffburtonfan · Before February 2015

If you read my original post, I was talking about self diagnosis kids, not actual ADHD. It might exist in some small form, but it's blown out of proportion. Why is it that ADHD has been around forever, but within the past few years, EVERYONE has it? It's not like you catch it like a disease, and it's not contagious like one, so why does everyone have it now?

It's either because they're lazy idiots who don't want to do their work right (sounds about right these days), or because they want people to have sympathy for them (also sounds about right these days). These are the same people who announce they have the disorder every other day. It's an attention grabbing game, is all.

Also, using the word "nub" makes your post sound super serious.

Last edited by Jeffburtonfan (Dec 11 2012 7:53:44 pm)

Different55 · Before February 2015

Jeff, treejoe is the one who questioned the existence of adhd. Most, of my posts in this topic are in reply to treejoe's comments on adhd.
the reason I said "nub" was because I did not want to sound serious. Then I got madbro and got all srs.

Deetz · Before February 2015

Ugh. I hate when people get all serious here. It's a forum for a little flash game. It's not anything like "lul let's be seruious about everything lul" forums (Actually a good idea. Hmm.)

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

Deetz wrote:

Ugh. I hate when people get all serious here. It's a forum for a little flash game. It's not anything like "lul let's be seruious about everything lul" forums (Actually a good idea. Hmm.)

Let's all be stupid then.

Different55 · Before February 2015

Deetz wrote:

Ugh. I hate when people get all serious here. It's a forum for a little flash game. It's not anything like "lul let's be seruious about everything lul" forums (Actually a good idea. Hmm.)

This is the off-topic forum. Nothing to do with a flash game. It can he be as serious or silly as the topic.

Anyway, as I was saying, ADHD is NOT simply a misbehaving child, its an actual disorder with a physical cause that can be corrected so that the person can focus. ADHD does not make up a person's personality. It's attention deficit (hyperactive) DISORDER. The meds do calm the person down a bit, oftentimes too much, but it does not change your personality, or who you are to fit society's norms.

Last edited by Different55 (Dec 11 2012 8:22:55 pm)

Echo! · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

Deetz wrote:
Ugh. I hate when people get all serious here. It's a forum for a little flash game. It's not anything like "lul let's be seruious about everything lul" forums (Actually a good idea. Hmm.)
This is the off-topic forum. Nothing to do with a flash game. It can he be as serious or silly as the topic.

You took the words right out my fingers.

krubby · Before February 2015

Different55 wrote:

Deetz wrote:
Ugh. I hate when people get all serious here. It's a forum for a little flash game. It's not anything like "lul let's be seruious about everything lul" forums (Actually a good idea. Hmm.)
This is the off-topic forum. Nothing to do with a flash game. It can he be as serious or silly as the topic.
Anyway, as I was saying, ADHD is NOT simply a misbehaving child, its an actual disorder with a physical cause that can be corrected so that the person can focus. ADHD does not make up a person's personality. It's attention deficit (hyperactive) DISORDER. The meds do calm the person down a bit, oftentimes too much, but it does not change your personality, or who you are to fit society's norms.

Yeah, the difference is that their brain actually doesn't produce enough of a chemical, even though it shoud. The meds just give the chemicals that the brain isn't giving propertly. Or it could be giving too much and the meds are nullifying the excess. I don't know specifically what it is, but that's usually how antidepressants and other mental meds work.

Everglade · Before February 2015

Echo! wrote:

Where's real music gone?
06/11/2012
computer generated crap?

I agree with your point but don't hate on computer generated music in general. There is a great deal of fantastic music which is computer generated.

Echo! wrote:

Dating Sites, really?
06/11/2012
Do you know someone who used a dating site and got a partner?

My girlfriends mum did. Can't say that worked out very well. There still together and all, but he's just a prick in my and my girlfriends opinion. And my girlfriend has to live with and put up with him.

Echo! wrote:

Self Diagnose
Seriously, if you think you have something see a doctor.

Yeah, i haven't come across anyone who thinks they have something from the slightest similar symptom, that sounds silly to me.

But i am very enthusiastic about people gaining an understanding for diseases and illness on the internet. Or if they think that they may have something, i don't see no problem with looking it up on the internet. The internet is great for knowledge, very underrated actually. But if you end up thinking you have something with little basis, thats silly.

treejoe4 wrote:

Music also died because of the rise of technology, when pretentious idiots figured how to turn on a computer, making noise that stimulates the most feeble of minds has never been easier. A common example of this is Dubstep.

Yeah, the rise of bedroom producers has made it easy for anyone to 'have a go' at making music, but that doesn't mean there music has to be signed. It's the taste of the population, or whatever they might stoop too listening on the radio, is what controls what gets popular after all.

And i think you misunderstand both the diversity of Dubstep and the process to making a Dubstep track. The mainstream Dubstep you hear on the radio, and what a lot of chavs rate highly, isn't very musical in terms of rich melodies, movement etc... i kind of get what you mean by the word "cold". However, you generally need to know quite a bit about synthesis to make the sounds you hear in Dubstep. You'll need to learn the basis of Analog synthesis first, but Dubstep tends to use more complex versions of digital synthesis including Wavetable Synthesis software and FM Synthesis software. It takes quite a bit of time and motivation to gain the knowledge to make typical Dubstep basses and synths. Even then, you need a great ear for mixdowns as Dubstep producers generally mix down and polish there own tracks. This can be a frustrating process which also takes a lot of development and time. The electronic producer needs to get to grips with the Digital Audio Workstation that they want to work with in the first place as well.

And Dubstep is actually diverse. And can be very musical. Like Drum & Bass, Dubstep seems to only be somewhat tempo bound. They incorporate many styles into the genere.

See here for examples of the diversity of Dubstep:

Mainstream Wob Wob Dubstep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQxn1Ke8AY

Some mellow Dubstep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xT1mOTC7s

Some Jazzy Dubstep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAtz_Vw5AjQ

Some Ambient Dubstep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38iZILttMg

treejoe4 wrote:

ADHD doesn't exist.

Granted, ADHD is way over diagnosed and i'm pretty sure the drugs used for ADHD are very controversial. They have countless side effects, yet the improvements of taking these drugs seem to be limited and doesn't work for everyone.

That said, to then claim it doesn't exist at all is a strong claim indeed. I wouldn't take your word for it.

Just because it's over diagnosed, doesn't mean the condition doesn't exist at all. There is attention, emotion and personality related issues which can occur suddenly from brain damage. What is to say someone can't be born with some kind of brain abnormalities which exhibit attention related issues in the same area or similar way to what these brain damage cases get?

I don't actually know a great deal about ADHD though, it's not one of the developmental disorders i've researched on. But i shall probably look into it now. I expect it does exist however, just way over diagnosed.

Last edited by Everglade (Dec 12 2012 2:17:54 pm)

Echo! · Before February 2015

Small update, I'm probably way out on this one. Just my strong personal opinion

Everglade · Before February 2015

Echo! wrote:

You can't complain
12/12/12
Why do people make this argument that "other people have it worse" or "worse things happen in the world"? By that logic, you can not complain about someone carjacking you, because somewhere else someone is getting tortured. We all have are own problems, that's the reason we have a voice, use it. People with serious problems who just want some ears to listen to them, are being forced by a bad society to keep their mouths shut about the problems that that they have as "people have it worse" or "we all have are own problems" which is why suicide is on the up. Thoughts?

Yes, i know exactly what you mean. i experienced this when i was a few years younger. I don't know what they were trying to pursue in saying that to me. Make me feel guilty?

To some extent it worked, i did feel guilty at times. But also made me angry, frustrated and made the situation worse.

If anything, it just shows there lack of respect and care towards you. If thats the case, be done with them.

Just because someone, somewhere, has it worse off does not make your situation any less of a problem than it is. Just as long as you're not going around saying you're suffering more than anyone else in the world or something ridiculous.

I do however see that there can be a problem with someone who irrationally whines at what may be serious problems, but doesn't help themselves.

Not saying i would take the approach of complaining to them that someone has it worse off at all, but they should become aware that positive thinking, doing something about it by motivating themselves etc... is always more effective and beneficial than cascading in a downward spiral of negative thoughts and whining to the point you feel unmotivated to do anything about the situation.

What i would do is help them. Give support. If they continue to whine or stress themselves in an irrational way which only makes things worse, i'll give them feedback on what i just said about positive thinking vs irrational negative thinking.

Telling them to man up and that theres someone worse off is both silly and will very rarely be helpful to them, so why say it?

Last edited by Everglade (Dec 12 2012 2:35:42 pm)

crastopher · Before February 2015

Where's real music gone?
06/11/2012

Talk about it. I listen to Techno music, the real and original dubstep. Pop now like Nikki Minaj, Ke$ha, One Direction, Justin Beiber, Rihanna, etc. are just downright annoying. Now back on the topic of dubstep- I do think it's cool that they can mix a bunch of beats, and make a song, and thus attracts me to the type of music, but dubstep is unacceptable. Dubstep is just crap. This is why I listen to techno. It's got some awesome beats in each song, and still has some lyrics in it(unlike dubstep: "CALL 911!" -the end-).

**If you think techno's cool, I like Scooter, Cascada and especially Basshunter
Dating Sites, really?

Dating Sites? I haven't really heard anything about it at all. Maybe I'll hear more about it as I get older(I'm in 8th grade).
Self Diagnose

Don't even get me started on this. I have OCD, ADHD, anger issues and signs of Autism. [i]For Pete's sake, in my Language Arts class we were talking about OCD and the school idiot/bully/popular kid said he had OCD because he cleaned his room sometimes so his parents wouldn't nag at him. I have a friend who's gay, is a bastard[not to be confused with the insult], is an accident, is bipolar, has ADHD, is hated by her parents, and many more things I can't even think of! I really feel pity for her. But I swear, the people today... I want to punch most people in the face. I'm starting to call people 'bag' (forgot how to spell it; Stcool would know how) with basically means idiot, moron, stupid, dumb***, etc.

< Joint (kind of) >

Trust me, I've heard this a lot. My idiotic friend says 'go kill yourself' so much. Plus, his acquaintance freninenemy (they have a weird relationship) has an uncle who committed suicide, which makes it worse, as he's very sensitive on that subject.

Different55 · Before February 2015

crastopher wrote:

Where's real music gone?
06/11/2012
Talk about it. I listen to Techno music, the real and original dubstep. Pop now like Nikki Minaj, Ke$ha, One Direction, Justin Beiber, Rihanna, etc. are just downright annoying. Now back on the topic of dubstep- I do think it's cool that they can mix a bunch of beats, and make a song, and thus attracts me to the type of music, but dubstep is unacceptable. Dubstep is just crap. This is why I listen to techno. It's got some awesome beats in each song, and still has some lyrics in it(unlike dubstep: "CALL 911!" -the end-).

I like dubstep, but not the skrillex kind. It HAS to have a tune, it can't just be noise. And there's dubstep with lyrics in it.

crastopher · Before February 2015

Yeah, that's basically the kind of dubstep I was talking about. I don't mind it if "It HAS to have a tune, it can't just be a noise."

Echo! · Before February 2015

Over Perverted Teenagers
23/12/12
I really have no idea if this is just in the UK, but here most teenagers (and some preteens) are so darn perverted, you can barley have a conversation with them without them mention something disgusting, or some part of the female body, I honestly find this extremely childish and frustrating. Most of my Facebook "friends" are like this, and they think they are "clever" but in fact, they're not they're just some hormonal juvenile. I can not even begin to express how frustrating this is. I have absolutely no idea what they gain from this. Is the just in UK. have you experienced this?

Before February 2015

Echo! wrote:

Over Perverted Teenagers
23/12/12
I really have no idea if this is just in the UK, but here most teenagers (and some preteens) are so darn perverted, you can barley have a conversation with them without them mention something disgusting, or some part of the female body, I honestly find this extremely childish and frustrating. Most of my Facebook "friends" are like this, and they think they are "clever" but in fact, they're not they're just some hormonal juvenile. I can not even begin to express how frustrating this is. I have absolutely no idea what they gain from this. Is the just in UK. have you experienced this?

Happens here a lot as well. IMO it's parents who incite their sons to be 'manly gangsta'. There are parents who bring their child/teen sons to the, hm, brothel, on purpose here.

Also, something tells me it happens in the US too. brawler

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Echo! · Before February 2015

0176 wrote:

Echo! wrote:
Over Perverted Teenagers
23/12/12
I really have no idea if this is just in the UK, but here most teenagers (and some preteens) are so darn perverted, you can barley have a conversation with them without them mention something disgusting, or some part of the female body, I honestly find this extremely childish and frustrating. Most of my Facebook "friends" are like this, and they think they are "clever" but in fact, they're not they're just some hormonal juvenile. I can not even begin to express how frustrating this is. I have absolutely no idea what they gain from this. Is the just in UK. have you experienced this?
Happens here a lot as well. IMO it's parents who incite their sons to be 'manly' and 'naughty'. There are parents who bring their child/teen sons to the, hm, brothel, on purpose.
Also, something tells me it happens in the US too. brawler

Yep, though, people I know are worse than brawler, they're so proud of their junk, it's actually completely pathetic.

treejoe4 · Before February 2015

I think it's because teenagers are stupid.

Different55 · Before February 2015

Here it's mostly middle-school age. In high school they either grow out of it or it gets worse.

Arceus64 · Before February 2015

Echo! wrote:

Over Perverted Teenagers
23/12/12
I really have no idea if this is just in the UK, but here most teenagers (and some preteens) are so darn perverted, you can barley have a conversation with them without them mention something disgusting, or some part of the female body, I honestly find this extremely childish and frustrating. Most of my Facebook "friends" are like this, and they think they are "clever" but in fact, they're not they're just some hormonal juvenile. I can not even begin to express how frustrating this is. I have absolutely no idea what they gain from this. Is the just in UK. have you experienced this?

The ages I've seen and consider the worst for this are around 10-15.

SilverStar · Before February 2015

I only have time to comment on self-diagnosis.

Starting with when I was 11 I stopped eating well. My sister and cousins were all "Omg you must have an eating disorder", yada yada. I didn't really know what that even meant so I agreed. Truth is, I caught the H1N1 earlier that year, and had a terrible fear that if I ate something, I'd puke.

Long after I was healthy, this went on. My mom suggested for me to see a psycologist, and I agreed. I had actually thought it was hurting to eat a normal amount because I hadn't ate properly in so long. The psycologist diagnosed me with an anxiety disorder.

I got help, and now I'm much better.

What I hate now, is that my mom will wrongly use "anxiety disorder".

Like when I see some food that just looks disgusting at a family get-together, "Oh she's just got an anxiety disorder. She doesn't try new foods."

Echo! · Before February 2015

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