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Calicara

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Taking Things Personally

Why does everyone always take things so personally? It's like I say, god is illogical, next thing all the religious players hate me. I say not anyone can be a judge for the EE circuit, a bunch of people tell me ask me why they can't be judges? Here's a tip to dealing with me. I have opinions. You don't have to accept my opinions. It is never my intention to alienate one single person. If I think god is illogical, I'm not saying Christian players are dumb. If I say not anyone can be a judge, I don't mean that players who aren't judges suck.
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Stating an opinion and attacking someone are two different things. So seriously, stop taking things personally. If you get offended by what I say that is up to your own discretion, because I would never put a player on the spotlight to humiliate them.
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(Granted I did make ONE topic last week about the whole art issue, but sometimes it is necessary to use an example to point out a whole. An good argument cannot be made without evidence.)
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P.S., before you all put words in my mouth, this is not a topic about religion or the EE circuit, etc... I am just arguing that I think it's ok to have an opinion, even if no one agrees with you, as long as you aren't attacking others for thinking differently. I bring up religion a lot because I have no problem conveying my feelings toward it. As I have said I would give plenty of reasons to defend my point of view, but I would not walk into a church and shout "You have all been brainwashed!"

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 21 2014 11:17:12 am)

treejoe4

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Re: Taking Things Personally

You know what you are doing, don't play dumb.

But I guess people are taking thing's too seriously like what you did with the air fresher, or as I like to call it, smellgate.

Last edited by treejoe4 (Feb 21 2014 11:23:31 am)

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

You know what you are doing, don't play dumb.

But I guess people are taking thing's too seriously like what you did with the air fresher, or as I like to call it, smellgate.

Of course I know what I am doing. But I am careful with my rhetoric, because you can't call me out for something I didn't actually say. And I'm tired of people taking what I say so seriously. I'm just some random person with an internet connection and an opinion.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 21 2014 11:32:02 am)

Cyclone or Meredith

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Re: Taking Things Personally

People are stupid, everyone's opinion is valid and even if it opposes your views does not detract from its worth.

Also the advantage of the internet is that you can ignore people.

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

People are stupid, everyone's opinion is valid and even if it opposes your views does not detract from its worth.

Also the advantage of the internet is that you can ignore people.

I refuse to believe the opinion "Just Bieber is a quality singer." is valid, or "Twlight was a brilliant movie". There are some times when I just refuse to accept an opinion, because it's ludicrous. I am glad though, as you have pointed out, I can ignore such naive banter.

treejoe4

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl, I think your main issue is that you are too dense to realize that the stuff you write on the forums and in your sig, lacks content and is just there to continue to press forward your unwanted opinions. Of course it would be stupid to take these things to a personal level, but what do you expect of people when you openly mock their beliefs?

Fdoou

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Re: Taking Things Personally

come on, when I went through the anti-religion phase, I was quiet about it
It helped me realize that no one gives a damn about my opinion
come on failgirl, I'm younger than you and you are still caught up in this crap?

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl, I think your main issue is that you are too dense to realize that the stuff you write on the forums and in your sig, lacks content and is just there to continue to press forward your unwanted opinions. Of course it would be stupid to take these things to a personal level, but what do you expect of people when you openly mock their beliefs?

I feel like I should be able to express my opinion. I don't often add 'content' to my argument such as outside sources, because most arguments I start on EE are childish to me and I don't take them very seriously. If I was gonna go and get links to sites, and post pictures etc... that would be more like an academic research paper and I'll save that for college.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 21 2014 4:34:04 pm)

Fdoou

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Re: Taking Things Personally

but you don't want the opinions of people who think justin bieber and twilight are good.

Here's something, we don't want your opinion.

treejoe4

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl, I think your main issue is that you are too dense to realize that the stuff you write on the forums and in your sig, lacks content and is just there to continue to press forward your unwanted opinions. Of course it would be stupid to take these things to a personal level, but what do you expect of people when you openly mock their beliefs?

I feel like I should be able to express my opinion. I don't often add 'content' to my argument such as outside sources, because most arguments I start on EE are childish to me and I don't take them very seriously. If I was gonna go and get links to sites, and post pictures etc... that would be more like an academic research paper and I'll save that for college.

You misunderstood me, I do not mean content as in evidence, links etc. I meant content as in meanings, valid truths. Basically, these arguments you create make you appear as a pseudo-intellect. I understand that you are in college and you are entering the adult world of life, but this does not make your stated opinions worth listening too. And quite frankly why should I even bother listening to them if you jump from God to air fresheners.

When I stated some time ago that you appear to be like a reddit atheist, this is not a good thing at all. These types of people have a fundamental personalities flaws.

I get the impression that you have seemed to figured everything out.

Last edited by treejoe4 (Feb 21 2014 6:50:02 pm)

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

First of all no one has to listen to my opinions. I can jump from one topic to another if I want to.
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I'm not trying to be a pseudo intellect either. I just talk about things I find interesting, like existentialism. I know no one cares to agree with me on religion, and that's fine, but it's not gonna change the way I feel about it.
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Also I don't have everything figured out, I think I do a lot, but I also think I don't. I'd be willing to take an argument against mine own, but I have yet to encounter arguments on these forums in which I feel obliged to change my opinion on. This is not to say others have uneducated opinions, but rather in the topics which I discuss I am rarely moved to think otherwise. If you would take for example, the free will vs fatalism topic by Pyromaniac, I do believe it ended in a stalemate. Different55 brought a perspective I had not thought of before, and I even commended him on it before the topic died out.
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Also, if you met me in real life I am much different and much the same. I like what I like, and if I don't like it I'm not afraid to say I don't like it. I suppose the difference is that in real life I am much quieter about my thoughts, because, well it's real. The internet is just a simulation. I would offer the same advice to all users, do not take thoughts on the internet seriously, especially when it comes to dealing with gaming forums. I take for granted the assumption that most forumers are more mature than the in game players, that's why I feel more inclined to be honest with my opinions. Again, this is not to say there are not times when there are articles which should be taken seriously, like academic journals or museum websites, but that is different. Their purpose is to educate through fact and not opinion. So I suppose, don't take others opinions too seriously.
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Also I don't see why you're so against reddit atheistsm I don't want this topic to turn into another religious debate, but I just don't see the issue.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 21 2014 7:10:41 pm)

Fdoou

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Re: Taking Things Personally

please don't assume that the religious population jumped on you, the non religious population did too.
While you aren't jumping into a church and whining or shouting or something, you are mushing this crap into every single post you make and it hurts like hell to read it!

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

please don't assume that the religious population jumped on you, the non religious population did too.
While you aren't jumping into a church and whining or shouting or something, you are mushing this crap into every single post you make and it hurts like hell to read it!

I think this picture makes your argument invalid. Not only is this prick arguing with me about the spelling of a childrens show character, but he also blocked me so I can no longer respond to his comments. You can say what you want about me flaunting my opinions, but even I'm not that much of a jerk.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 21 2014 9:11:20 pm)

treejoe4

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl go watch documentaries on space or something, instead of wasting your time with inane conversations

Creature

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl go watch documentaries on space or something, instead of wasting your time with inane conversations

She trying to tell to stop rejecting her opinions, i give opinions too, and lot of times is not true.

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This is a false statement.

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Failgirl go watch documentaries on space or something, instead of wasting your time with inane conversations

Well that thing on DA, I don't usually argue on DA, but it just kinda **** me off for some reason...
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My point is though, I'm sick and tired of getting criticized every time I have an opinion. Everyone else on these forums are allowed to have an opinion except me apparently, and since my opinion is generally against the majority I'm always ostracized for it. Like my air freshener topic, people make useless topics all the time, but then you and fdoou spam it with world wide issues telling me my issues are petty and small. Maybe my issues are petty and small, but who cares. Why out of all the dumb topics do you choose to criticize mine? Why do you even care? I'm not insulting anyone by thinking a certain way. I'm not attacking or putting others down. So why does everyone take everything I say so extra super personally? I am just a forumer like everyone else.

treejoe4

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Re: Taking Things Personally

You are still too dense to realize the petty statements such as 'God never existed to begin with', make you appear.

Last edited by treejoe4 (Feb 22 2014 12:25:46 pm)

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

You are still too dense to realize the petty statements such as 'God never existed to begin with', make you appear.

I'm not dense, I'm opinionated. That's where it **** me off. I say "god never existed to begin with". It's just a sentence from an ongoing rivalry with Pyromaniac. He too has modified his signature:

"The Christianity I know takes note of the blue London sky, of the footballers, and of the picnicking lovers, but it starts with the addict on the street. You know, the one atheism forgot about."
"Those who stop believing in God don't believe in nothing--they believe in everything"
-GK Chesterton

It's not because we think each other is dumb, because if I thought Pyro or Christians in general were dumb I would say so, but I don't think that. We are like yin and yang, we balance each other out. The fact that you take my signature out of context is based on your own perceptions. I in fact mean nothing by it other than to assert my atheist ideals in a non violent manner, which allows the reader to make their own decision. You don't have to agree with me, but you shouldn't get offended either, because it's not petty, it's my opinion.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 22 2014 12:58:48 pm)

skullz17

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Re: Taking Things Personally

But opinions are just your thoughts, which you can express if you like, but sometimes I get this impression that there's "pride" in an opinion. I don't know how to explain it, but that's how I feel about this. I don't think you're supposed to have pride in an opinion, because then it's like saying that your opinion is better than others.

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thx for sig bobithan

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

But opinions are just your thoughts, which you can express if you like, but sometimes I get this impression that there's "pride" in an opinion. I don't know how to explain it, but that's how I feel about this. I don't think you're supposed to have pride in an opinion, because then it's like saying that your opinion is better than others.

Having an opinion at all always implies you think you know something better than someone else. Having an opinion though doesn't make you a jerk. I have pride in my opinion on atheism, and from my perspective I seem to get a lot of enmity from other forumers for having it. However not once in stating my opinion did I say those who don't have my opinion are inferior. That is not my intention. I would argue for my opinion for the sake of upholding my own belief over an idea in which I do not believe. If you choose to view me a hostile for thinking that way, that's your problem, but I don't ever attack anyone personally. That's why I don't get why I seem to face so much more animosity than others with opinions...

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 22 2014 1:46:12 pm)

Pyromaniac

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Re: Taking Things Personally

I don't want to get super involved in this, even though I feel like this topic was directed towards me   (me being the "religious population": )
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I think you can come across as hostile in expressing your opinions. I wouldn't go as far as to say that you are "dense", but sometimes it can seem like you repeat the same argument over and over. Now I say this with caution because you're obviously intelligent and a thinker. As you've said, you're in college, and from what I can tell, taking challenging classes. So obviously you are not dense. But there definitely a happy medium between sharing an opinion and shoving it down peoples throat. Like Buddhism, the middle path . This is what people get so mad at Christians about. Many don't just share their thoughts, they try to stay and FORCE you to believe.

Anyway, I would say you are leaning more towards the right side of the scale. I think that's why you "seem to face so much more animosity". Because you ALWAYS share your opinons. There is a time for that, and then there is a time to be quiet.
As for the original question, why do I get so offended, its because you are callously declaring an entire way of life invalid. Whether you think so or not, this is rude and supercilious. You don't really back up this opinion, you just say its "illogical" or "wrong" or whatever. This is attacking a way of life. Im not offended for me, or even because you insulted my religion. Just because of your condescending attitude that may or may not be purposeful.

I think maybe just like try to tone it down a bit. I dunno, I tried to tell echo this, and he shrugged it off as social hysteria, (whatever that means), but if everyone is pointing the same thing out to you, maybe there is a grain of truth? Maybe?

For the record, I only changed my signature to counter yours. I thought it would be a clever or something. Guess not lol

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Thank you for responding Pyro. You're the first person whose given me an answer without criticizing me. I know my arguments can sometimes be repetitive, though as I said before (somewhere) I don't do a lot of research for these petty forum arguments, because I don't often find it worth my time.
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I state my opinion a lot because, I can. I suppose I have a good comparison: In real life if I ever go out with a group of more than 4 people (which is rare, because most of the time I am by myself), if we are having a group conversation I am least likely to add my opinion because with so many other people talking at once it's hard to get your point across without feeling like I'm interrupting. The forums don't feel that way to me. People can post, but it's silent. We're talking but we're not talking. You can acknowledge all other posters or only one poster or no posters at all. It's kind of a pick and choose conversation. That's why it's easier for me to want to say thing, because I can say thing without feeling like I'm interrupting.
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As for the original question, why do I get so offended, its because you are callously declaring an entire way of life invalid. Whether you think so or not, this is rude and supercilious. You don't really back up this opinion, you just say its "illogical" or "wrong" or whatever. This is attacking a way of life. Im not offended for me, or even because you insulted my religion. Just because of your condescending attitude that may or may not be purposeful.

I'm sorry you feel that way, because I just don't . I suppose this will always be the one part in which I won't agree. Naturally, being an atheist will always make me contemptuous to many, but I don't mind accepting that role. I know a lot of people say it's better not to talk about religion, I guess it's just better not to talk about it on the forums.
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I changed my sig too.~

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 22 2014 9:56:47 pm)

Different55

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Re: Taking Things Personally

As for the original question, why do I get so offended, its because you are callously declaring an entire way of life invalid. Whether you think so or not, this is rude and supercilious. You don't really back up this opinion, you just say its "illogical" or "wrong" or whatever. This is attacking a way of life. Im not offended for me, or even because you insulted my religion. Just because of your condescending attitude that may or may not be purposeful.

I'm sorry you feel that way, because I just don't . I suppose this will always be the one part in which I won't agree. Naturally, being an atheist will always make me contemptuous to many, but I don't mind accepting that role.

I don't understand. Is there an Athiest's Handbook that says all atheists must be contemptuous towards people who don't share your lack of belief in God/gods? You can always do what a lot of people do and follow your own beliefs without disturbing others unless the situation calls for it. If anything requires you to be contemptuous towards anyone I don't think that it's a very good thing to have.

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"Sometimes failing a leap of faith is better than inching forward"
- ShinsukeIto

Calicara

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Re: Taking Things Personally

Maybe I used the word out of context, I apologize, I am trying to expand my vocabulary. What I meant to say was, the act of me being atheist, just BEING it, will always be offense to some religious people, because god is a way of life. So me saying it's 'illogical' and 'absurd' is just adding oil to the flames. Some people are always gonna dislike me for expressing that opinion.
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However, this does mean to say all religious people with treat me with such enmity, but it would explain why everyone seems to get so offended to easily.
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I'm sorry if you don't agree with my way of life, but I don't agree with yours, and that's no reason to treat me as an antagonist.
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EDIT: I just found this great picture XD

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 23 2014 10:11:00 am)

Fdoou

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Re: Taking Things Personally

don't worry differnt55 there's no silly rule like that, it's just failgirl being failgirl