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#1 Before February 2015

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Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Can you code things in a different language (English, Spanish, German, Ect.).

Like if I was doing CSS could I do it like this if my computer settings were set to the language I spoke:

#container {
     fondo-color:#242424;
     fuente-tipo:Arial;
}


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#2 Before February 2015

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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages


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#3 Before February 2015

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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

there are non-english programming languages ?!
my mind is exploding

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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Different55 wrote:

Doesn't surprise me since most of the world is English, and most computer stuff is made by US companies


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2027 … -languages

Here's a much better link with more serious answers.

tl;dr: There are a few localizations here and there, but it's easier for everyone to use English for a variety of reasons including both technical and usability reasons.


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

you can create yore personal x language compiler to use what language you want.


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

The Doctor wrote:

you can create yore personal x language compiler to use what language you want.

Create my own language?


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Anyone can just create a programming language. The hard part is making it real by writing a interpreter/compiler.


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Different55 wrote:

Anyone can just create a programming language. The hard part is making it real by writing a interpreter/compiler.

In which you need to write in an already made up language...


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Correct. At least at first. You can write compilers for a language in the same, but first you'd need a compiler made in another language to write that one.

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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Different55 wrote:

Correct. At least at first. You can write compilers for a language in the same, but first you'd need a compiler made in another language to write that one.

So then how was the first language made?


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

I have done 0 research on this so I'm probably very wrong, but my guess would be: by hand. Writing the assembly yourself, one little bit at a time. You really only need to do that once, then everything after that could be run through the compiler you just wrote, leading to other compilers and languages.

I just googled it and found this link for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of … _languages
According to a light skimming of the second section, all was assembly in the beginning.

And here's a link to the first compiled language, also on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocode
It doesn't explicitly say how the compiler was written, but since the first article says everything was written in assembly in those days, I'm going to assume they did the same thing when writing the compiler.

Computer languages started out really low-level and basic, and gradually got more complex. Now pretty much anybody can create their own programming language and lots of people do, just for fun. Google "Esoteric programming languages" some time. There's everything from image-based programming (Piet) to internetcat-based programming (LOLCODE).


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

Different55 wrote:

I have done 0 research on this so I'm probably very wrong, but my guess would be: by hand. Writing the assembly yourself, one little bit at a time. You really only need to do that once, then everything after that could be run through the compiler you just wrote, leading to other compilers and languages.

I just googled it and found this link for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of … _languages
According to a light skimming of the second section, all was assembly in the beginning.

And here's a link to the first compiled language, also on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocode
It doesn't explicitly say how the compiler was written, but since the first article says everything was written in assembly in those days, I'm going to assume they did the same thing when writing the compiler.

Computer languages started out really low-level and basic, and gradually got more complex. Now pretty much anybody can create their own programming language and lots of people do, just for fun. Google "Esoteric programming languages" some time. There's everything from image-based programming (Piet) to internetcat-based programming (LOLCODE).

1. I'm glad I was born in a time that computers have developed past hamster wheels... I would not have the patience or desire to do that...

2. I don't really see the need for anyway to make any NEW coding languages languages. But I think the existing ones should be able to be written in several languages. At least the most common ones like HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, Actionscript.


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

2a. People do it for fun. Making ridiculous programming is fun, and, if they're done well, using them is fun, too. I once made a "Hello, World" program in Piet that looked like a landscape picture.

2b. If people did that, then every browser would have to be able to read every single language that HTML is localized to. That's 2.46 buttloads of extra work for devs. Meanwhile, in current reality, people seem to think that it doesn't matter, or that English is a better tool for the job.

OscarRyz wrote:

when I started about 10 yrs ago, I didn't have any clue of English, and still I was able to program simple things by learning the programming language, even when I did not know what they meant ( in English ).
...
To me the "for", the ";" and the "++" where simple foreign words or symbols. Later I learn that "for" meant "para" and "while" meant "mientras" etc. but in the mean time I did not need to know English, but in my case what I needed was to know "C".

They're not really learning English just by learning the language. Even English-speakers learn new terms like "for loop" which make no sense to regular people.
Shady M. Najib wrote:

I'm from Egypt. I think we switch to English by default when we talk, or even think about code. Most of the learning resources - regular ones like books, and even blogs, podcasts and so on - are in English. Switching to your mother tongue means turning your back to lots of great resources.

However, learning English certainly does help. The overwhelming majority of programming material is in English. It can be hard to get help if you don't speak English.

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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

That's interesting. Very interesting.


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Re: Coding stuff in different spoken languages

You can just get a source of a compiler and modify reserved words.(there must be some compilers made in c++, not shure)


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