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Fdoou

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Re: A tale of school uniform

sometimes, the question is wrong.

treejoe4

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Treejoe4 finally someone who makes sense, Why care about what kind of clothes people wear when there are more important things to care about.

Because this topic is about school uniform. If you want to talk about bigger things go make your own topic for it.

that is not what i was getting at , how dense are you??

Calicara

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Re: A tale of school uniform

If someone decides they are a transexual I will treat them as the gender they identify with.

Please also consider, you are very forward thinking. Environmental preservation is just as important as human rights. It's not so much that it should matter how people dress, because I agree everyone should dress how they want, but rather the issue of backwards thinking human beings who think people should act and dress a certain way. While I think the majority of forumers are very open minded individuals, bigotry and contempt are still pervasive in society. Please be considerate, because while we appreciate that you are a higher thinking individual, not everyone is like you.
Squad fighting for his school uniform rights, to me, is just him sending a message to those who try to control others that it's wrong to force your ideas on others. There is no one way to think, or dress, or act, and it's important to be considerate of others even if you don't always agree with them.

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Tako

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Re: A tale of school uniform

If someone decides they are a transexual I will treat them as the gender they identify with. But what makes me very angry is when people like you dictate that I should follow the sudden thousands of rules just to avoid offending someone who describes them self as 'gender fluid'.

When is it going to end with you people, are workplaces going to have to install a litterbox for people who think they are cats?

Why is any of this important? Why aren't any of you people concerned with the enviroment, or science, or the corruption of modern democracy?

I think you're being a bit melodramatic (like usual), but I do see your point.

Governments have a tendency to yield to religion, and I think sexuality is becoming a similar issue. People can't just invent a religion in order to excuse their behavior, right? So why should we do that with these sexual deviants?

I think that once a group of people reaches a particular percent of the population, they should at least be recognized by the government if not given the rights that any humanitarian would give.

If there are a large enough amount of people who feel like they are cats, then who am I to say they are crazy? Who are any of us to say gender fluidity is illegitimate? You've never been in his shoes, and neither have I.

And this whole "gender fluidity" thing seems to alienate you, but it's not all that strange. It's just someone saying "why are skirts for females?", and the only answer to that question is "because we said so," and that is rarely a good answer. The rules that gender-fluids break are arbitrary and in breaking them they expand the ideas of self-expression and fashion, while at the same time exercising our ability to adapt to new things.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Buzzerbee

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Also, you're just assuming that because I'm defending genderfluid people that I have no concern for environmental issues, etc. That is not the case.

Am I not allowed to have multiple beliefs? I don't prioritize the environment over human beings being condescended. Nor do I care more about civil rights than I do the environment being destroyed.

So if you're only argument is prioritization over "bigger" issues, find a different one.

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treejoe4

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Re: A tale of school uniform

I think some people in this topic suffer some speical snowflake syndrome.

And you are all implying that someone's decision to be gender fluid is something else besides the expression of low emotional intelligence, mental illness, special snowflake syndrome, or rather simply a phase in a teenagers life.

Muh feelings

Onjit

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Re: A tale of school uniform

I really hate this tumblr brand of social justice. Quit yer whingin'

I'd add something about first world problems, but I hate that crap as well.

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Calicara

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Re: A tale of school uniform

I think some people in this topic suffer some speical snowflake syndrome.

And you are all implying that someone's decision to be gender fluid is something else besides the expression of low emotional intelligence, mental illness, special snowflake syndrome, or rather simply a phase in a teenagers life.

Muh feelings

Tree, while I do not always agree with you, I do try my best to respect your opinions. However, now you are just being insensitive. People who are gender fluid do not always "expression of low emotional intelligence, mental illness, special snowflake syndrome, or rather simply a phase in a teenagers life". Furthermore, it is not you or anyones right to define how other should live their lives based on gender.
Sex is what you are born with biologically, gender is how you define yourself. If girls want to define themselves as male, or boys want to define themselves as females that is their personal decision and it is no ones right to tell them they are wrong for doing so. People fighting for the rights to be this way, are usually only doing it to get rid of people who criticize them for being different because there are still low lives and religious bigots in the world who devote their lives to destroying people they don't even know, solely based on their personal/religious beliefs.
If you don't care then don't post, but if you are going to post then please be respectful of others.

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Fdoou

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Re: A tale of school uniform

then pick
male or female
it's your goddamn choice just pick one and stick with it

Fradeshan

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Re: A tale of school uniform

you can pick whatever you like, just don't expect that you won't be ridiculed or 'offended' for being in a minority that has a ton of social rules that are specific to each person like others said

unless everyone is in the group or actively tries to be more delicate with them, they can't possibly know everything

the boy <-> girl dress thing is just stupid

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TiKen

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Re: A tale of school uniform

@treejoe4:

Despite the fact that I do believe that the question of gender comes from a mutation in the human genetic pool (probably the same level as an homosexuality tendency, a blue eyes color or even the size of your middle finger), I completely disagree with the term "illness", mental or else.
Concerning the special snowflake syndrome... well what do you want, everyone want to be loved/remembered/idolized and the technologies of this age allows us to reach more people than ever to be recognized. Except that you have to face billions of others who want exactly the same thing...
But here I don't think this term fit: Squad doesn't want a special treatment, but more equality, id est having the same dressing right as the girls (who can wear either male or female clothes). Damn feminazi...
Finally, If you really care about the environment, this whole LGBT debate should actually fill you with joy \o/
Yep, less reproduction, less mouth to feed ~o~
@Squad:

As I said, most of the people have a closed mind because they were raised like this. All of this will change, but right now confronting them by choosing your dressing code might hurt you more than anything else. I don't think that it's worth yet. Following the rules doesn't mean you agree with them.

GKAbyss

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Re: A tale of school uniform

I do not think there should be an issue with what clothes people wear if it does not affect anyone else. I guess there could be the concern that people wearing clothes they would not be expected to wear could be seen as a distraction to the school environment. However, past the first few days I do not see how it could be a distraction.

Alexthementalone

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Re: A tale of school uniform

You know how it is,

Society has been influenced by social expectations and telecommunications. The internet and broadcasting networks use advertisements to convince people how to dress. If you have alot of integrity, then go ahead and dress on the opposite gender.

Bimps

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Re: A tale of school uniform

okay, squad, just talk with your school about the uniforms. we cannot do anything about it. you are just **** to us

0176

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Re: A tale of school uniform

You aren't sending a message to the whole world about ooh liberty and freedom, you're just helping create more drama in the off-topic section by posting online. I respect your feelings, but just thinking about you expecting and demanding that your school would have a exception in their rules to something that is starting to be relevant only recently and goes against the religion-based views (which I don't agree with, by the way) many schools have.. just makes me irritated, somehow. I don't and will never consider myself a bigot, but I just can't stand stuff to this level.
I wish I was like treejoe and fdoou and could state my opinion and call down on people without any fear of being too harsh, but I can't.

treejoe4

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Re: A tale of school uniform

@tikenalpha

What are you talking about with genetics? If you are saying that mutations cause transexuals and homosexuals, you are wrong. I know for homosexuals it is simply due to gene activation.

And anyway, this kind of behaviour in society has always been present, but rare. Until now people are starting to asign themselves as animals trapped in a human body, or obscure genders. This is just evidence of how modern dignity is degrading. No one should have to apply more rules because somebody wants to act out strangely.

Stuff like this makes me never want to have children, I would paranoid somebody teaches my child that it is normal to dress and act however they want, based on muh feelings

Tako

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Re: A tale of school uniform

And anyway, this kind of behaviour in society has always been present, but rare. Until now people are starting to asign themselves as animals trapped in a human body, or obscure genders. This is just evidence of how modern dignity is degrading. No one should have to apply more rules because somebody wants to act out strangely.

Once again, you are saying it is illegitimate. What is your proof?

Gender fluidity, along with every other branch of gender-queer, is a mental state that has deep ties to genetic and personality traits, not something that people just pick up over the weekend because they want to be a special snowflake.
And I am curious as to how you link this indecisiveness, or more generally, "acting out strangely" to a lack of dignity. I, for one, respect a person who doesn't conform. It shows me that they can think for themselves and can make decisions that other people wouldn't agree with.

It doesn't necessarily mean the thoughts or decisions are good, but it is the environment in which good thoughts and decisions come from. Do you think the Renaissance was lead by people who believed everything they heard about the Bible? Do you think civil rights was born from an oppressed black person who just wanted to fit in and not make a scene?

Nonconformity should be praised wherever it is found. It is through nonconformity that we change and evolve, just like how mutations give favor to individuals in the process of natural selection. And similar to mutations, bad mutations do not survive, and quickly become extinct.

Now, I would see an issue if people stopped testing these new ideas and just accepted whatever walked through the door. But I see no reason to suggest that is in our future. People have always been resistant to change and people who want change have had to fight for it.
Finally, what are these "new rules" that people must object to? If it is done right, people who are not genderqueer would not need to obey more laws. It would only give extra rights to those who choose to take that path and do not have as many rights, for example with Squad and his dress code issue.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

treejoe4

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Tako, so do you respect the fact I am not conforming to your strange laws?

Tako, are you comparing the worth 21st Century 'movement' of 'gender queer' people to historical eras and the civil rights movement. Because I am sure Giordano Bruno is worth a lot more than any LGBT activist.

I am not asking everyone to conform to a 1950s fashion or way of life. I just think acting like this because of the internet is not healthy for your mind or society.

This is like the 1960's hippy movement, expect with no intelligence or wisdom, or good music.

People like you Tako are encouraging young males to get into whatever strange and unhealthy lifestyle they want, while people like me would tell them to learn the guitar.

Fdoou

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Re: A tale of school uniform

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha nonconformists bah

why don't you go see what the other nonconformists are doing and conform to them

Tako

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Tako, so do you respect the fact I am not conforming to your strange laws?

I have yet to hear what these "laws" you speak of are. I think you're imagining things.

A social movement does not require laws unless there is a law that oppresses other people. The only thing that would happen is a removal of laws, or details of a law. Never would they add laws.

I am not asking everyone to conform to a 1950s fashion or way of life. I just think acting like this because of the internet is not healthy for your mind or society.

I agree, but that isn't the problem here. People don't go against social constructs solely because they heard about it on the internet. It's too radical and too complex for that. The internet implants the idea, and they foster it until it becomes established within themselves.

Some people choose to believe everything they read, but that's with regards to purported facts. This is a little larger than a fact; it's a very abstract idea that a large majority of people don't even understand, let alone follow.
I'm getting a little bored of running around in circles while Fdoou laughs at certain words like a child in a Sex Ed class. Just make a solid point that isn't absurdly phrased so I can move on with my life.

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Tachyonic

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Re: A tale of school uniform

As long as people have the ability to be catered to their unique characteristics and traits, if it causes no harm to the general public, then what's the big deal?

treejoe4

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Re: A tale of school uniform

As long as people have the ability to be catered to their unique characteristics and traits, if it causes no harm to the general public, then what's the big deal?

This behaviour does cause harm.

I've got a phrase for ya Tako.

'Stop acting like a freak and grow up'

Calicara

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Re: A tale of school uniform

As long as people have the ability to be catered to their unique characteristics and traits, if it causes no harm to the general public, then what's the big deal?

This behaviour does cause harm.

I've got a phrase for ya Tako.

'Stop acting like a freak and grow up'

Tree, you are on an online forum which encourages creativity. I get your point, but then why are you here? You are wasting your time trying to convince people to act how you want them to act. There are plenty of other places in which to express your concern for space and and the environment in which people would actually care. Your logic makes no sense.

Bimps

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Your logic makes no sense.

Calicara

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Re: A tale of school uniform

Your logic makes no sense.

That's self-proclaimed with no credibility. Anyways, if you have more to say PM me, this is off-topic.