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calculusguy

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Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Most mods and admins don't warn newbys when they break the rules, such as this, which probably gravedug and was spam at the same time. This should get him 2 warns, but bass5098 simply dismissed it with

Welcome to the forums.

http://eeforumify.com/misc.php?action=rules

I would recommend that you read the list of rules, this post broke a few of them.

But what most people are forgetting: All newcomers "must" read the rules (in quotes because they don't) to register.
Only some people (like me) actually read the rules, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
The rules say:

A. Breaking any rule will yield one warning, unless otherwise noted.
B. 3 warnings - day ban
C. 4 warnings - week ban
D. 5 warnings - month ban
E. 6 warnings - permanent ban

The newbys don't get what the rules said, [X] warns. This might even make them break the rules more, because they know they won't be warned.
To stop this, mods/admins need to warn ALL rule breakers, not just the people who mods think have read the rules.

Last edited by calculusguy (Dec 25 2011 9:42:27 am)

plat aka kingpooultra

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Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

They give them one chance most of the time. One only. I see nothing wrong with that. It gives newbs time to think next time or they will get a warning.

Monstar43

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Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Since most new people are either 8-10 year olds whos parents just told them to skip the rules, or are just lazy, the mods give them a chance before they warn them. The system you want is just too strict Calculus. All people make mistakes sometimes.

calculusguy

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Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

They give them one chance most of the time. One only. I see nothing wrong with that. It gives newbs time to think next time or they will get a warning.

The time to think was when the forum told you to read the rules, not when you break the rules.

Since most new people are either 8-10 year olds whos parents just told them to skip the rules, or are just lazy, the mods give them a chance before they warn them. The system you want is just too strict Calculus. All people make mistakes sometimes.

Then the parents are noobs. I actually read the rules when I was 10 (I was bored). Its just like reading how to register, not an entire 900 page book.

The newbys don't get what the rules said, [X] warns. This might even make them break the rules more, because they know they won't be warned.
To stop this, mods/admins need to warn ALL rule breakers, not just the people who mods think have read the rules.

Monstar43

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

The mods can't just be like "You spammed. Warned." if they just posted. They remind them to read the rules and 2/10 times they actually do and know what to do.

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Then a mod should post like this:

You have been warned for the above post due to it being spam. Please read the rules, and try not do this again.

Monstar43

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

You don't understand. A good mod has to be forgiving to new players. They give them one chance to correct themselves and they don't play games anymore. If said newbie doesn't learn, they get banned. The current system is fine and doesn't need to be so strict.

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

You don't understand. A good mod need to do what the rules say, or else

The newbys don't get what the rules said, [X] warns. This might even make them break the rules more, because they know they won't be warned.
To stop this, mods/admins need to warn ALL rule breakers, not just the people who mods think have read the rules.

Monstar43

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

That is a strict mod whom people want to be more lenient. Users and mods alike help newbies read the rules so that they don't get in trouble. If they don't get it, it's their fault. You don't see anyone else complaining, do you?

Lopoi2

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

I understand your point calculusguy. But at least in the first time, they just tell to the newbie that what he made is wrong and show them the rules.

But after it, its just warn.

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Maybe a 25% chance that the newby will get a warn?

Lopoi2

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

In case of 2 rules broken, he should get at least 1 warn.

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

So what about my example in the OP? Should he have gotten warned or not?

Monstar43

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Well, it is annoying to see such things, but he is a new person so he needs some leniency. Just one chance like the other people and, as I've said many times now, if they don't get the message, they get a warning. If they still don't get it, another warning then another then a ban. If they STILL don't get it, it's all downhill from there.

Tako

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Joined: 2015-08-10

Posts: 6,663

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Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Hey, some people just aren't as sharp as people who have been here for a while.

I'd rather give them a chance to recognize their mistake and fix it themselves instead of forcing the solution on them. If they don't want to fix their mistake then they can enjoy their ban, because it was well deserved.

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Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Different55

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Joined: 2015-02-07

Posts: 16,575

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Excuse me, did YOU read the rules when it said to? Most people don't. Most of those noobs who break the posts are either banned or just gone within a week.

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"Sometimes failing a leap of faith is better than inching forward"
- ShinsukeIto

Lopoi2

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Excuse me, did YOU read the rules when it said to? Most people don't. Most of those noobs who break the posts are either banned or just gone within a week.

This look a bit rude for me. But I think he said he read.

Different55

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Posts: 16,575

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound rude. But most people do not read the rules when they first join. They read them when they are asked to, when they are warned, or they get banned after post 8.

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"Sometimes failing a leap of faith is better than inching forward"
- ShinsukeIto

calculusguy

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Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound rude. But most people do not read the rules when they first join. They read them when they are asked to, when they are warned, or they get banned after post 8.

Actually, I did read the rules before I registered. http://eeforumify.com/viewtopic.php?pid=148105#p148105 Heres the post I explained it.

Chewy

Banned

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Personally, I'm not lenient at all. You may hate me for it, but I'm here to keep the rules, not be your friend.

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Actually, I kind of like you for that, (untill you give me a warn). But doesn't your sig say that?

Ponies love and tolerate, I don't.

Chewy

Banned

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Actually, I kind of like you for that, (untill you give me a warn). But doesn't your sig say that?

Ponies love and tolerate, I don't.

Sure?

Krazyman50

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

The newbies need to learn before being warned. Here's an example of what we mean:

lol hi

^Warned for spam. Read the rules.

Geese it wass msy frirst sday god sioo mean!

^Warned for spam. Read the rules.

Stoppdat! Plewsrze?

^Warned for spam. Banned for 1 day. Read the rules.

How it is now:

lolhi

^Please read the rules, or you will get a warning.

kk sorrz
Nywyz dts nicee lvl u got

[In mods head]
...Mission accomplished.
*Challenge accepted face*

Last edited by Krazyman50 (Dec 26 2011 10:35:22 am)

calculusguy

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

The noobs are supposed to learn when they read the rules before they register.

Monstar43

Guest

Re: Stop being so lenient to the newbys.

Krazyman's example is pretty much what would happen if mods would stop being lenient. Newbies would get banned instantly and we'd get almost no new members and a bad reputation for being too strict. Newbies need to learn the easy way before getting blasted with warnings, in other words being told to read the rules before they get banned for being too lazy to read them.