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#1 Before February 2015

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How To Be Original

Okay, here's the deal.   We all know that stairs, box minigames, and smiley art is considered "nooby".   But people have some misconceptions on originality.   Most people just make the same thing over and over: a landscape with built-in minigames.   But that's not original anymore.   Almost everyone and practically every crew has one or more levels like that.   It's no longer original, no longer innovative.   Not to say that they can't be fun, or cool, or interesting, they're just not 'original', per se.   Original, by definition, means "new; fresh; inventive; novel".   It basically has to meet the following criteria:
- Never been done before
- Feels different than any other level
- Is inventive and created
- Is fun to play
For example, MIHB and MFL made a level called Downpour, where it incorporated the smiley's trail on the minimap into the art.   That was original.   Maybe use the smiley in innovative ways like that.   Maybe have people play ball with the smiley?   Or use blocks somehow for a method other than building?   It sounds hard at first, but once you let your mind wander, you'll never know how creative you can be.

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#2 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

It was actually called 'Downpour'.

Great guide, I vote for stickying, because this is more important than an art guide, which is also a sticky.


Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

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#3 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Thanks for the correction and support!


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#4 Before February 2015

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I have a lot of new ideas, not sure which are 'oringinal', but PM me if you want to see one.

Also, what did you put for Downpour at first?

#5 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Raindrops.
And sure, I'd like to see them (can't be bothered to PM).


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#6 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Mustang made downpour not mihb //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
anyways nice guide //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile


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#7 Before February 2015

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32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:

Raindrops.
And sure, I'd like to see them (can't be bothered to PM).

Epic lol at raindrops.

#8 Before February 2015

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Great guide. //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

I'm definitely linking this thread to the next stair level I see in the rooms section.

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#9 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

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this may have 400 minigames, [no hookjumps to get past each level]. but you get the diamond smiley once you join so everything on the world is either white/grey/black [ex.gravity and coins]
[and smiley lines are white]

http://beta.everybodyedits.com/games/PWeykVu7t5a0I
http://everybodyedits.com/games/PWeykVu7t5a0I

Also this pic was taken there:
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#10 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

My oringinal ideas are now avalible to AP crew members! If you want to see one, PM me.

#11 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

If you phrase it as "landscapes with minigames" I have to agree: it's not original. However, if there is a thought behind it, a theme or an idea, it can still be original. Then there is the issue I've had with terminology for a long time: people keep calling stuff "minigames". For me, minigames has a negative connotation: I associate it with the random boring stuff inside a box without any idea behind it. Often it just becomes an obstacle course, which is just dull. In many levels it's indeed just a landscape with boring stuff in it, often with black blocks to preserve the art but it looks terrible on the gamemap and just shows a lack of skill when it comes to making challenges. And this is is the term I prefer: challenges. To me a challenge is something that has actually been thought out: it's fun, smooth, can be difficult but doesn't have to be. If you look at our latest map, Odyssey: it's a landscape with "minigames", using your words. However, it's a very versatile one and it had an idea behind it: you progress through hell to get your soul and return, with challenges along the way. Does this strike you as unoriginal? I find that levels can still be original while sticking to a basic formula, it's all about how you deliver it.


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#12 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Well, if you can get a really deep meaning like that into it, that's different.   I was more specifically referring to levels like this 'un.


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Re: How To Be Original

Thanks!!!

Is this original? --> http://everybodyedits.com/games/PW3oIUPOsFbEI (its not done.)


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#14 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

cool game

#15 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Well, this isn't supposed to be a level judging topic, but I suppose I could evaluate one level....
It's semi-original, but it falls into that whole "landscape" genre that is so oft-imitated.   35/100 on the originality scale.


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Re: How To Be Original

32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:

Well, this isn't supposed to be a level judging topic, but I suppose I could evaluate one level....
It's semi-original, but it falls into that whole "landscape" genre that is so oft-imitated.   35/100 on the originality scale.

ok... let me try to make it more original.

omgmaster123 wrote:

cool game

thanks! 1bigsmile1


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#17 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

klmaster wrote:

Mustang made downpour not mihb //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
anyways nice guide //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

MFL and I made Downpour, with the help of some other builders.   We used Mustang's account because he has a billion portals.

#18 Before February 2015

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MIHB wrote:
klmaster wrote:

Mustang made downpour not mihb //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
anyways nice guide //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

MFL and I made Downpour, with the help of some other builders.   We used Mustang's account because he has a billion portals.

I thought Nou had more portals than Mustang

#19 Before February 2015

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MIHB wrote:
klmaster wrote:

Mustang made downpour not mihb //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
anyways nice guide //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

MFL and I made Downpour, with the help of some other builders.   We used Mustang's account because he has a billion portals.

Um, wasn't the max portals 99? Also:
If a level is very hard, still possible *looks at Oturan and Muftwin* , but has a new idea, is it still oringinal?

#20 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

I suppose so, but I have to admit, I'm not the governing body on originality.


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#21 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Garfield2436 wrote:
MIHB wrote:
klmaster wrote:

Mustang made downpour not mihb //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile
anyways nice guide //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

MFL and I made Downpour, with the help of some other builders.   We used Mustang's account because he has a billion portals.

I thought Nou had more portals than Mustang

I haven't spent energy in months (except on new stuff that you can only get once) so mustang has caught up by now //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue I'm too lazy to spend more, there's nothing I need.


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#22 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

Funny how I was thinking the same this week. Also, you contradict this topic with your "Creativity" contest by typing in the original post of the contest (before you had edited it because MIHB pointed that out) that had stated something or rather with you judging about minigames and art. just sayin

dont start a argument either.

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#23 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

@Nou: Yeah, he's got around 150.   Last I checked, you were at 100.
@FuzzySocks: Not trying to start an argument, but I clearly stated that that wasn't how I wasn't judging.


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#24 Before February 2015

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Re: How To Be Original

SquadFS wrote:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4922 … igames.png
this may have 400 minigames, [no hookjumps to get past each level]. but you get the diamond smiley once you join so everything on the world is either white/grey/black [ex.gravity and coins]
[and smiley lines are white]

http://beta.everybodyedits.com/games/PWeykVu7t5a0I
http://everybodyedits.com/games/PWeykVu7t5a0I

Also this pic was taken there:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5559/vampire2f.png

Im the one who made a bot to make everything gray, it used to be yellow XD

and ya, nice guide


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