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ElijahBaley

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I wasn't going to post my town read of Minimania, but when I'm annoyed I have 0 self-control so I might as well just do it; Minimania is almost lock town for me.

ElijahBaley

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I wasn't going to post my town read of Minimania, but when I'm annoyed I have 0 self-control so I might as well just do it; Minimania is almost lock town for me.

Man.. you're too much of an INTP for Forum Mafia
walking talking stereotype

What do you mean by that btw? I googled the 16 personality types and did not understand

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Poor Lumi lmao, getting killed even when AFK for most of D1. On the bright side, though, that's one difficult slot to solve removed from the equation.

Please do. What are your thoughts on MM and BB?

Also, I dare you to show 1 deep thought

If you're going to be sarcastic I'm not going to talk to you, I'm not here to be someone's intellectual punching bag.

You've to admit that sarcastic comment was deserved.
I don't mean to demean you or anything, but seriously - what are your thoughts of MM and BB? You said you want to discuss the game. If you actually refuse to comment on your vote and random target after saying, that's just.. I don't even know what that is tbh. Be serious please. What are you thoughts on BB and MM?

right now, my thoughts are that I'm too annoyed and cannot remember what my thoughts on MM were, but I remember I read some posts on d1 idk which and like I said BuzzerBee seems scummy, MM is null and playing totally NAI, saying things either alignment could say
my thoughts also are that

1) Lumi was night killed by Mafia. obviously someone either considered him a threat and eliminated them from the game. you said that if you were scum you woulda night killed him, but I don't think that means anything necessarily. anyone here who found him a threat woulda killed him even if Lumi wasn't scum reading them. of course, it's also possible that he was totally randomly murdered (such things do happen)

But why am I scummy? Because I pushed you? Well look at this closely

!Vote ElijahBailey

If you are not scumreading me for voting you, but for "being scum", why am I scum? What about Buzzerbee? You have been one of the most active players, and yet, I cannot figure why you read a single person the way you claim to do (and many people are left untouched by you). I'm not saying you're DEFINETLY scum, but you need to convince me otherwise, at this point, and not just by saying "but I am town, grr!", which is more or less what you've been doing.

look at my posts. I am town through and through. I just have a different play style.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I think I'm going to leave the thread for a few hours because I'm about to burst.

ElijahBaley

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this is not the moment to be sarcastic or ironic towards me. I know we like to joke around and it's all in good fun, but please stop. all you're doing is making me angrier and angrier, which makes it almost impossible for me to collect my thoughts.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

yes and not actively scum hunting it as you put it definitely makes one scum

But I look at your past and instinctively it feels like an interest in scumhunting is shown in a single digit percentile of your posts.

it does not have to be present in more than that

I just want to quickly comment on this for Elijah.
1) Actually, deep thoughts are what I find the towniest, as that's a hard thing for wolves to fake. Anyone can spam angrily for inactive to become more active and ask for reads etc. etc. Why do you think I townread 2b55 and BB among the highest for example? Because they've the deepest thoughts - which is a good sign they're solving.
2) I think this is a difference in how we think the game should be played. Let's any random slot has a 25% chance to be wolf from your perspective and let's say you see something that you think would come from a wolf 26 out of 100 times, so just +1% of rand, what do you do? Some go crazy for that micro > rand, some note it, some discuss it with others, etc. etc. it differs between people. You probably don't think mention worthy anything that's like less than 80% wolf likely or something. I think any thought should be shared.

So, no, "active hunting" or whatever isn't a necessity. It's not even that clearing. Main thing is having of you caring about solving the game in a genuine fashion. Don't blame others when they don't find it in your 1% game content posts. (it's more now, ofc)

all thoughts should be shared, it's just that many people just make up complicated schemes that they don't actually believe in and then push them. I don't do that, I wait until I feel something that comes from within and then I state it.

If you sincerely feel like NOTHING AT ALL has happened apart from you getting pushed (which is obviously an horrible sin /s), then you may want to review your standards? Because if everyone just sits there and waits for the magic inner illumination you speak of, scum just kill everyone and win xD.

I think you may be saying genuine things... but that does not mean you are genuinely town, just that you might seriously believe in what you say about how you play, so I cannot give you a free pass for it - you NEED to do towny things.

I did do townie things, maybe you should try putting yourself in my place

also, I DID do things, scum does not win this game, I pushed Minimania and I have him as a 99% town

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

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I just want to quickly comment on this for Elijah.
1) Actually, deep thoughts are what I find the towniest, as that's a hard thing for wolves to fake. Anyone can spam angrily for inactive to become more active and ask for reads etc. etc. Why do you think I townread 2b55 and BB among the highest for example? Because they've the deepest thoughts - which is a good sign they're solving.
2) I think this is a difference in how we think the game should be played. Let's any random slot has a 25% chance to be wolf from your perspective and let's say you see something that you think would come from a wolf 26 out of 100 times, so just +1% of rand, what do you do? Some go crazy for that micro > rand, some note it, some discuss it with others, etc. etc. it differs between people. You probably don't think mention worthy anything that's like less than 80% wolf likely or something. I think any thought should be shared.

So, no, "active hunting" or whatever isn't a necessity. It's not even that clearing. Main thing is having of you caring about solving the game in a genuine fashion. Don't blame others when they don't find it in your 1% game content posts. (it's more now, ofc)

all thoughts should be shared, it's just that many people just make up complicated schemes that they don't actually believe in and then push them. I don't do that, I wait until I feel something that comes from within and then I state it.

If you sincerely feel like NOTHING AT ALL has happened apart from you getting pushed (which is obviously an horrible sin /s), then you may want to review your standards? Because if everyone just sits there and waits for the magic inner illumination you speak of, scum just kill everyone and win xD.

I think you may be saying genuine things... but that does not mean you are genuinely town, just that you might seriously believe in what you say about how you play, so I cannot give you a free pass for it - you NEED to do towny things.

I did do townie things, maybe you should try putting yourself in my place

also, I DID do things, scum does not win this game, I pushed Minimania and I have him as a 99% town

Okay, why is Minimania 99 % town then?

because he acts like a townie getting pushed and then getting angry about it.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

by the way, I knew Lumi would flip town.
!vote BuzzerBee

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!vote BuzzerBee

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If you sincerely feel like NOTHING AT ALL has happened apart from you getting pushed (which is obviously an horrible sin /s), then you may want to review your standards? Because if everyone just sits there and waits for the magic inner illumination you speak of, scum just kill everyone and win xD.

I think you may be saying genuine things... but that does not mean you are genuinely town, just that you might seriously believe in what you say about how you play, so I cannot give you a free pass for it - you NEED to do towny things.

I did do townie things, maybe you should try putting yourself in my place

also, I DID do things, scum does not win this game, I pushed Minimania and I have him as a 99% town

Okay, why is Minimania 99 % town then?

because he acts like a townie getting pushed and then getting angry about it.

I didn't see Minimania getting angry, and thus am not sure what you are referring to. Quotes might help.

by the way, I knew Lumi would flip town.
!vote BuzzerBee

you do realize this is a little easy after the flip right xD

are you implying I'm lying?

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I don't think that February 2021 game is representative of my play style, shallow-meta wise. If you want to read me you need to try to empathise, my play style is far too inconsistent for anyone to read into it tbh.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

anyway BuzzerBee is mafia I do not buy the "he is busy" story one bit just get him

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Okay, why is Minimania 99 % town then?

because he acts like a townie getting pushed and then getting angry about it.

I didn't see Minimania getting angry, and thus am not sure what you are referring to. Quotes might help.

by the way, I knew Lumi would flip town.
!vote BuzzerBee

you do realize this is a little easy after the flip right xD

are you implying I'm lying?

yes! and since we're playing Mafia, that is quite fair =P

anyway BuzzerBee is mafia I do not buy the "he is busy" story one bit just get him

What? Are you suggesting we should lynch him for "inactivity"? There are much more inactive/uncontributive people (such as Bon Jovi or ShadowsEdge, to different extents) I would go against before attacking him.

!vote BuzzerBee

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why the **** would I lie about something like that? I can't even lie about that as Mafia

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

Why is BuzzerBee getting CFD'd, even by the inactive guy, and why is NOONE seeing an issue with it lol?

Why is BuzzerBee getting CFD'd, even by the inactive guy, and why is NOONE seeing an issue with it lol?

because he is sus
and who cares he is an inactive?

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

we NEED to random someone. frankly outside of you guys focusing on me and what I regard as basically no-u's are that mostly attacking my play for being different, there have not been any major pushes this game. might as well start with BuzzerBee because he keeps dropping reads, promising to come back and then leaving

are you gonna put your vote on him to get some info or are you just gonna continue and **** about how I'm not "acting townie" or how everyone else isn't doing ****?

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MM IS MAFIA, HE IS NOT BEING USEFUL THIS GAME. THAT IS HIS SCUM META 100%. GET BUZZER BEE AND THEN MARSHMALLOW MARSHALL.
MM and BuzzerBee = team

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

and, by the way, I am NOT against someone hammering. the threat of being lynched needs to be very real, or else "pressuring" won't work. get him to L-1.

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anyway BuzzerBee is mafia I do not buy the "he is busy" story one bit just get him

what does this mean i work full time and have class twice a week i’m really trying to be active at least once a day and day 2 barely started like 15 hours ago 

its not the fact that you're busy but more the fact that you feel the need to state that at all

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I think I'm going to leave the thread for a few hours because I'm about to burst.

and yet you explain yourself here lol? sorry for explaining myself i don’t really know what else to say

If anyone's interested in looking into past gameplay by Elijah to see if you can figure something out:
Town Game (April 2022)
Town Game (October 2021)
Town Game (June 2021; replaced out)
Town Game (June 2021)
Town Game (Jun 2021)
Neutral Game (July 2021)
Mafia Game (March 2021)
Mafia Game (February 2021)
Wolf Game (December 2020)

Went to December 2020 because wolf games seem to not be common for him, skipped a number of town games.

these posts aren’t loading right on my phone, would you mind giving a summary?

yeah and I didn't leave, what's your point? that I'm scum reading you for things I am also doing? mea culpa, I am town so the point does not stand

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

nothing is happening, so i went back and backread some pages, and honestly i haven't got a single clue on how to scumread anyone due to my confusion on this day (and partly also because im overwhelmed, like im not new to mafia but i rarely play serious mafia games or setups where a majority of people are VTs)

so what im do instead is vote someone and see what happens

i dont feel comfortable voting BB cuz that vote from Gandhi is still really weird to me, and i do believe that BB is busy. i can vote Gandhi but i'd rather wait for an explanation for now since he seemed pretty towny to me on day 1.

however i'll vote Marshmallow for now, mainly because im a sheep (and also due to impulse because i want something to happen lol). several people have suspicion on him recently (Lumi, Elijah, Minimania), and while im still not entirely convinced since i really doubt a mafia would vote an anti-town role early in the game, i think the reasons for suspecting MM are fair. i also want to see his reaction to being voted, if theres any

!vote Marshmallow Marshall

GET BUZZER BEE AND THEN MARSHMALLOW MARSHALL.

is there a reason for getting them in this order btw?

no, no specific reason but it's better to vote the one that is closer to being lynched

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

he's not inactive, every time he leaves he says "I will be back", which is scummy. why is that scummy? I do not know, but I know that as scum I've done that before + I've seen scum doing that before. being inactive or not has no bearing tbh

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

!vote Marshmallow Marshall

If more people vote for Marshmallow Marshall, I'll unvote so I can keep hammer power.

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he's not inactive, every time he leaves he says "I will be back", which is scummy. why is that scummy? I do not know, but I know that as scum I've done that before + I've seen scum doing that before. being inactive or not has no bearing tbh

For me this'd be an example of someone making something that's slightly > rand a thing.
Elijah, idk if you ever looked into BB's ISO but BB said once they'd keep up while at work and another time said "back to work" after dropping a giant reads list. That's it (from what I saw). I'm inclined to believe it's not scummy to go back to work after dropping a reads list? I think it could be argued that making a reads list during work is, if anything, a good look.

tbh I don't really care, just vote someone up, a **** reason is better than no reason at all, we need to put up everyone or at least as many people as possible. if you REALLY want a "reason" to vote someone, then you are more than free to suggest a target. if today is going to go like yesterday we are going to lose.

I'll almost sheep whoever on whoever else, except that I'm not voting Minimania for the time being.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

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I wouldn't be surprised if Elijah and MM were both wolves together; because their interactions remind me of that 2020 December game where we all 3 were wolves together.
Who'd be their partner here? Anyone, just not me obviously.

MM is not my partner.

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Re: Mafia 52 Game Thread (GAME OVER)

I am also down to vote 2b. but please vote someone for God's sake. we can't just keep making up reads, we need to make real pushes.