Mafia 44 [Host Modkilled]

Onjit · 2020-03-27 11:26:39

Hi, welcome to Mafia 44: Court is in Session!

Yeah all the roles are court themed, lets see how it goes.

The basic rules are the same as usual, basically try to post relatively often (although given COVID-19 I'm expecting excuses like "I was at school" to be less believable), and don't be a ****.
There's a few important rule changes though:

1. This game will end at the end of Day 5. No exceptions, no matter who, if anyone, has won.
2. Almost everyone can use the "!vote X" command, but only votes from the Jury will actually count.
3. The final vote count will not be revealed, only the result.
4. If the Jury votes result in a tie, there will be an extra 24 hours given for people to only vote for the players that are tied. If it results in a tie again, there will be no lynch.
5. The "Judge" role has the power to cancel a lynch, so there may be a delay between when the votes close to when the results are revealed.

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Living Players

Buzzerbee
kira
peace
2b55b5g tng
edilights
shadowsedge
asdruska
taskmanager
AllenCaspe9510
Pqwerty
mrjawapa
Andymakeer
Crybaby

Andymakeer · 2020-03-27 14:18:17

what happens if the prosecutor votes?

Andymakeer · 2020-03-27 17:31:56

so, if the prosecutor cannot vote, we can simply do this:

> all players vote, jury, attorney, judge and hitman
> if you dont vote, you become the prime suspect, lynched no matter what you say until you vote
> but if the prosecutor cannot vote no matter what, so at the end of votings, one player will remain without voting
> that player is the prosecutor, confirmed
> so as we know who the prosecutor is, it can tell us the who the hitmen
> GG

Andymakeer · 2020-03-27 22:55:15

peace wrote:

no if we do that mafia just kill him

mafia would only kill him if he is one of the targets.
after prosecutor uses his power, there is no point for mafia focusing him.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-27 23:00:59

so can we start the votings?

we must set a 1 day duration for this vote phase, if someone does not vote during this period, then we wagon it

also
@ONJIT does reaching majority ends the votings or we must wait until the time is over?

Andymakeer · 2020-03-27 23:22:42

ASDruska wrote:

how long until a hitman claims prosecutor and claims 3 random people to kill

if we follow the "All Vote" strategy, then the prosecutor must be the only one that wont end up voting at the end, we'd have a clear crystal confirmation that it is indeed the prosecutor

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 01:51:41

!vote peace

So lets do this way:

STARTING FROM ALLEN VOTE, EVERYONE MUST VOTE UNTIL MAR 28 AT 6:49PM ET

IF YOU DONT VOTE, YOU'LL BE WAGONED

ALSO, COUNT THE VOTES SO THE ONE YOU VOTE DOES NOT HAVE MORE THAN 4 VOTES

Thank you very much

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 01:55:19

oh wrong player

its pqwerty not allen lol

but you got it

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 18:46:15

peace wrote:

in which case if he claims he get nigtkiled N1 no matter what but hey if i was pors. i wouldve cliamed inmediatly aswell so the game got solved on D3 (4 if not beliving me)

if prosecutor gets confirmed D1 and he reveals his targets, why would mafia targets him first?
everything the prosecutor would do, it already did
mafia targeting prosec would be pretty much a useless night kill, as the prosec cannot vote so his permanence on the game woudn't affect mafia lynchings

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 18:48:07

peace wrote:

why vote for me?

BECAUSE you still have less than 4 votes on you
please read the strategy again

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 19:01:33

Kira
2B
Shadow
Allen
Jawapa
Crybaby

these guys still have not voted yet
7pm ET is the deadline for voting

My thoughts:
> Allen: is against the All Vote strategy (#57), pretty much suspicious for me, as this strategy is only bad for mafia.
> Crybaby: trying to make the prosecutor roleclaim, but this doesnt guarantee that the claimer is indeed the prosec.
> Jawapa/Kira/2B/Shadow: ?????

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 19:02:41

SORRY SHADOW I WAS EDITING

Kira
2B
Allen
Jawapa
Crybaby

these guys still have not voted yet
7pm ET is the deadline for voting

My thoughts:
> Allen: is against the All Vote strategy (#57), pretty much suspicious for me, as this strategy is only bad for mafia.
> Crybaby: trying to make the prosecutor roleclaim, but this doesnt guarantee that the claimer is indeed the prosec.
> Jawapa/Kira/2B: ?????

Andymakeer · 2020-03-28 23:43:16

peace wrote:

what if the pors. get souted an dhas no time to reveal the mafia? he can betetr just cliam no by himself if he wants to do so at the worst we misslynch him so what we have 5 days 3 mafia easy as that come on guys basic maths

that why we have another timer for votings, 7pm ET of today
btw, its almost finished

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 00:21:54

Well time is over.

Jawapa
Allen

These guys have not voted yet.

WARNING
IF WE WAIT UNTIL THEY VOTE, THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT THEY WILL WAIT UNTIL THE ROUND IS ALMOST EXPIRING, SO WE HAVE NO TIME TO SWITCH VOTES

!vote allen

pretty active, but has not cooperated to solve the game

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 00:29:39

hmmmmmmm

@ONJIT are you considering votes out of

[h]

tag? (like crybaby one)

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 01:21:17

Jawapa we just your vote on someone.

You can vote on me if you want

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 01:32:02

I'll resume for you:

We are doing an "Everyone Vote" strategy.
As only the Prosecutor cannot vote, so at the end only it will remain without voting.
That grant us a clear confirmation that it is indeed the prosecutor.
As we have it confirmed, it can tell us who the Hitmen are, as it was already revealed for it.

This is a pretty bad strategy for mafia, so if you wont cooperate with it, you become a suspect and wagon target.

As for now, only you and Allen have not voted yet.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 02:44:28

TaskManager wrote:

More paranoid thoughts:
Maybe the hidden Prosecutor mechanic is that if they vote themselves they die? Which puts them before undesirable choice of surrendering their own goal to gift the town an easy win

As the game is now, the Prosecutor is doomed.

> If the the last non-Prosecutor player does not vote, we'll have to lynch one of them, 50% chance of lynching the Prosecutor
> If the Prosecutor gets revealed, then he must say who the Hitmen are. If he dont, then mafia instakills him on N1

Allen or Jawapa, one of them is the Prosecutor, and one is certainly a Hitman.

We must discuss now who of them we lynch.
I'll warn again, lets not wait for their votes, or we'll have no time to switch votes, increasing the chance of misslynching a town.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 02:50:12

OH JUST REALISED SOMETHING!

If we consider that either Allen or Jawapa is a member of Hitmen, then mafia already know who the Prosecutor is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn Prosecutor, out those sweet mafia now!!!!!! You are already dead anyway.

BuzzerBee

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 02:51:48

Crybaby wrote:

Andymakeer wrote:
If we consider that either Allen or Jawapa is a member of Hitmen, then mafia already know who the Prosecutor is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is assuming the prosecutor didn't fake vote

It cannot fake vote.

Btw, i asked @ONJIT if your vote is valid, waiting for his answer.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 02:57:46

Crybaby wrote:

Andymakeer wrote:
Btw, i asked @ONJIT if your vote is valid, waiting for his answer.
Why would he answer this question for anyone?

BECAUSE your vote was not using h tag.
I want to know if he is considering your vote as valid.

If it is not valid or he doesnt answer, then you become suspect.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 02:59:59

thank you very much

btw, Allen or Jawapa are the suspects now, your vote on me makes you look scummy imo...

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 16:55:12

mrjawapa wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
mrjawapa wrote:
How does that confirm who the prosecutor is? Are we assuming onjit is going to release the vote counts?
It makes no sense to explicitly say that Prosecutor can't vote if Onjit isn't going to post vote counts
The votes of other non-jury roles don't count either so what would be the difference and reason to mention it only in Prosecutor's rolecard?
Are they not allowed to cast a vote at all, or is their vote just not counted?
If the prosecutor pretends to cast a vote anyway, and Onjit doesn't give us a vote count, then how does this prove anything?
I'm not convinced this is a good plan. I'll follow through with it, but I have a feeling this is going to bite us in the ****.

Are lynches done on majority or plurality?

Why are y'all voting for allen if you think he's the prosecutor? He's beneficial to the town, and y'all are trying to kill him. Anyone that has cast a vote for him is suspect in my eyes.

Jawapa, you must understand something:

If you are the prosecutor, then Mafia already knows it.
Being the Prosecutor grants you the power to know who the Hitmen are, and if you dont tell it, then you will be instakilled on N1, no matter if you are a target or not.
By using the move "abstain", you increase A LOT the chances for Mafia win:
They only need 3 kill to win, so the game will inevitably finish on the end of N3 (if Prosec is target) or N4 (if Prosec is not).

If we lynch Allen and he flips scum, then we must lynch the other 2 mafia by the end of D3.
As for now, no one has outed any other player as scum other than Allen.

@ONJIT
Is this "secret rule" Allen is telling us even a thing?
I'm not buying it, and if it is, you should have hinted it on the op.

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 17:36:12

peace wrote:

so gg town just lost hthe pors. nice we lost our own chance to win the **** game

the prosecutor just need to claim and tell us who the hitmen are, its simple.
mafia already know who it is anyway...

Andymakeer · 2020-03-29 20:11:31

uhhhhh i feel like discussing with peace is decreasing my brain cells

i'll ignore his posts

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