Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 · 2019-12-04 03:33:22

Lol so you're both accepting the possibility of a secondary infection vector but rejecting the extreme likelihood that that option inherently points to literally anyone else being P0?

Different55 · 2019-12-04 03:39:27

I was blocked N1. Unless I punch through roleblocks I couldn't have infected peace. Which means someone else did. Which means that there's a secondary infection vector. The only reason a secondary vector is on the table is because it couldn't have been me because I was blocked. Without that, there's literally no reason to believe such a thing exists.

Different55 · 2019-12-04 03:43:52

Woah where are you pulling this nonsense that the vote infection isn't blockable? Nothing anywhere indicates that

Different55 · 2019-12-04 03:51:39

Okay and the secondary infection vector you're asking Shadow not to block?

Different55 · 2019-12-04 03:52:28

Peace said nothing to that effect and there's no events in the game we can extract "vote infections are unblockable" from.

Different55 · 2019-12-04 04:15:23

Peace's whole thing against me is that he voted for me and was infected the next day. He honestly has no idea how he got infected, but he guesses it's the same as him. He says at night he can choose to infect anyone who voted for him. It does not say it's unblockable. If there's a secondary vector there's less reason to believe I'm the source. Because at that point you've completely lost yourself in the middle of a "Diff used a secondary ability to infect the person who voted for him all while punching through a roleblocks and btw he's immune to nightkills too" spaghettified mess.

If I didn't believe you weren't town I'd tell you to take a step back and rebuild from the beginning but as near as I can tell you're just trying to confuse things as much as you can on your way out.

Different55 · 2019-12-04 04:48:46

Crybaby wrote:

Peace wrote:
diff infected me i cuase i had a misfrotune of voting for someone so diff infectd me either automatically or he choosed to infect me (i was th eonly oen to vote him)
His post doesnt at ALL make him sound confused

It doesn't? I read that and see someone who has no idea what's going on. Considering his only reason to suspect me was that he voted for me the day before, then even though he supposedly shared the same role at that point, he doesn't know how I'm supposed to have infected him: automatically or by choice. And again, that shaky statement is only made with the limited info of his own Child of P0 role. He has almost 0 insight into P0's role. That is only multiplied by 10,000 when you start bringing in a possibility of a secondary infection vector, and the instant you do everything starts flowing *away* from me.

Different55 · 2019-12-04 05:02:58

Crybaby wrote:

He didnt seem unsure at all. No 'um' or 'I think' about you having infected him at all.

Because he's basing it all on his limited info. I was blocked that night. Infection counts as a night action. If infection can be done without a vote, there's literally no reason to suspect me. Peace is the only reason, and his info is extremely limited.

Even now, we have no idea if infection is automatic or a choice. If it's limited to one person or many. Peace should know all of that.

Read my last post for your citation again.

Different55 · 2019-12-05 01:52:14

Well. That explains how I survived N2.

Different55 · 2019-12-05 18:35:03

ShadowsEdge wrote:

peace wrote:
Onjit wrote:
Graveyard
KirbyKareem (Brother In Arms) - Lynched Day 1
Kirby (Kira (no the other one)) - Killed Night 1
Kira (Mafia Blocker) - Lynched Day 2
mrjawapa (Epidemiologist) - Killed Night 2
Crybaby (Mafia Defender) - Lynched Day 3
NorwegianboyEE (Innocent Child) - Killed Night 3
hey whats this wiht the colors?...
Best assumption I can make: The lighter green are town-aligned, but have a different wincon to the rest of the town.

Seems to check out.

Mutant, why did you investigate shadow and not slabman, pqwerty, or myself?

Different55 · 2019-12-05 21:16:48

I'd say let's go for slabdrill. He's been a bit more opportunistic and unconvincing.

Different55 · 2019-12-05 21:18:01

You know what we've probably had it backwards. With Slabdrab being the Hitman and Pqwerty being the real third mafia who's begging us to wait to kill him.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 00:56:30

But yeah surprising nobody, I'm patient 0.

Mafia isn't going to kill me, turns out you guys have been out of vigs for a good long while, so...

Zelda, you had the right idea voting for Peace. You effectively don't have a win condition right now. Join me. And together we will rule the galaxy.

Peace, >>>:::(((

Different55 · 2019-12-06 02:12:26

Nah, anyone who ends the day with their vote on me is infected. That's why Zelda isn't dead right now, he didn't keep it on peace.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 02:40:40

And idk how Peace's role was but I don't appear to have a limit on the number of people I can infect. I'd be a bit surprised if he worked differently though. It's not a night action. I mean it is, but not !infect person. It's not a command it's just an action that happens to anyone who voted for me. I have no actions I can go out and perform, I'm just addicted to votes. Only difference from my underlings is that I don't die if I don't get my fix.

Reason I singled out Zelda is because he's the only person who truly has no win condition right now. There's no physically possible combination of actions that let him fulfill his wincon. Another two have no hope of winning but strictly speaking your wincon is not physically impossible.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 03:05:12

Roleblocks don't work on me. I'm guessing because it's an automatic action or maybe because it happens at the instant day ends rather than when it's truly night. No idea. But I'm confident there's really nothing town alone can do to stop me right now.

The Fever faction will win as long as it has the majority. At least that's my wincon, I can't speak for the other infected.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 03:18:24

Hey screw you I'm neutral. I was once a man like any of you here today. I just had the bad luck of stumbling on this disease will out on a vacation. Sharing the joy I found doesn't make me evil. I'm not even anti-town, I just want an infected town.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 03:19:52

And yeah like all we need to do is pull Zelda on board today then everyone tomorrow can split their votes between us. Why do we think Peace is the last maf? It's most likely you or slab.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 15:05:56

peace wrote:

well shadow you can tinw by being mia anymore so you wanna chnage your faction? hahah die get out
!vote shadow

holy frig peace is actually mafia

PEACE LIED?

Different55 · 2019-12-06 17:14:24

Pqwerty wrote:

Also, Peace is never going to kill Diff because that would be gamethrowing.
And if you be petty and lynch me and Peace before we get infected, then you still have Diff left. The only thing you could do is lynch diff, which would infect everyone, and have a fever win.

LOL I don't think we can count peace out for gamethrowing.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 19:26:59

mutantdevle wrote:

Pqwerty wrote:
Here is our strongarm.
Look at Norweg's win condition, because I assume it's the same as everyone else in town. The only way you win is if all non-town parties are killed, including the fever faction.
The only way you guys could kill the fever faction is through a mafia kill, because town NEVER had a killing role (Epidemiologist couldn't kill P0).
However, you are about to lynch the last mafia, and will be unable to kill the fever faction, as you can't lynch it without being infected.
You majorly misunderstand how the infection role works.

Diff gets to CHOOSE 1 person who voted for him to infect during the NIGHT. If we lynch him nobody gets infected. He won't be alive to infect anyone. He doesn't suddenly infect the entire wagon when he dies, that'd be a stupid mechanic. You choosing to let diff infect you changes nothing. You were always going to be tommorow's lynch anyway.

Nope, not how it works. I don't choose anyone, I have no night actions. I automatically infect everyone. N1 I sent in no night actions, tonight I'll be sending in no night actions. I'm infectious, I don't have control over the disease I just do what it tells me to.

Pqwerty is wrong about one thing though. The Epidemiologist only wasn't capable of curing me.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 22:57:00

Devle's plan is the more correct one. I was thinking we'd infect Zelda today then split votes tomorrow.

I wasn't lying, as near as I can tell I automatically infect everyone who votes for me.

BUT if y'all managed to successfully lynch me I don't think I'd pass on anything. Otherwise with limited ways to kill me I'd be pretty OP.

We wouldn't be screwing over most of the dead townies. Pretty much just Norboy and Jawa. Kareem's hosed no matter what. Alternatively, depending on wording he might win as long as Zelda's alive even if he's no longer a brother in arms. Kirby would win if all currently living criminals repented of their crimes and found new life in the Fever. Norboy's the only dead xenophobe and Jawa hates me in particular.

Logically speaking, Fever is the only true path to happiness for the entire town and everyone in it, alive and dead.

Pqwerty

Different55 · 2019-12-06 23:29:52

Win con says Fever must be majority. Others can be alive, but the majority must be infected. You'd have to ask peace what the infected wincon is but I doubt there'd be a difference.

Different55 · 2019-12-06 23:32:31

mutantdevle wrote:

When you say it must be a majority, do you mean as soon as there is a majority the faction wins and the game is over?

My faction wins when there's a majority. The game ends when someone wins. Makes sense to me.

Different55 · 2019-12-07 02:57:55

Onjit wrote:

Current Votes:
[3] Peace: Mutantdevle, ZeldaXD, ShadowsEdge
[1] ShadowsEdge: Peace
[1] Different55: Pqwerty
To clarify: Infection spreads as a night action, one person per night. Sorry for the confusion Diff, since there was only one option N1 and we had a chat about it in the PMs, I figured you were going to do the action anyway and forgot to confirm.

Yeah I figured. ;(

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