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NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

in the world are you fairly confident that you're town? Did you even read your role PM?

Why are you attacking low hanging fruit instead of responding to my post?

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Hey kira, what's your opinion on lynching slab tomorrow?

You called him mafia. I called him mafia. Do you think I'm partners with him?

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Your actions are not town motivated and I'm basically just going to keep cornering you until you get lynched so basically gl

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

!vote ele

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

I don't like how kira sheeped me while calling me mafia

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

if ur not voting you probably should get an opinion and vote because the more we do the plurality rule thing the less info town gets

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Shadow in order to win this game town needs to lynch correctly on D5/D7

Who's your D5/D7?

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

I find it scummy that so many people are basing their scum readings on inactivity. INACTIVTY IS NOT A SCUM TELL. It's probably the opposite.

Except I'm not. Slab and Kira are scummy because they're wagon hopping. Slab specifically is scummy because he comes of as really self aware.
And you, are scummy because you are defending the scummiest people in the game and providing absolutely no alternative. The funnier thing is you're not even defending them. You're just making this cringy vague statement because you don't want to actually commit to defending them because I don't think you have any plausible alternative narrative that you're ready to push.

Who do you think is mafia, Zelda?

You just said inactivity is towny, so okay, let's say kira and slab are town. You also need to call yourself town. Who's the scumteam, then? If you're town, you're thinking about who the mafia has to be, not just putting out vague statements like "generally mafia/town tend to do X", that's literally all I did as scum but it's not going to work because you're gonna get dunked on by the master of vague statements himself.

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

I feel like my D5/D7 is Kira + Zelda

Iirc slabdrill voted on zelda with the intent to kill but I might need to review that to see if it really looked like a bus vote -- zelda has kind of been flailing all game and feels like he's been playing the game without a reads list in his head

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

The reason I want to lynch ele is that everyone I'm scumreading minus slab on account of inactivity (Zelda, Kira, joe) wants to lynch Taskmanager today and is defending ele to some degree, meaning I'm pretty sure taskmanager is spewed town just on that alone, and I would rather lynch ele even in a TvTvT world -- while I'm confident they're all town, just due to all the defense she's gotten, ele has the highest scum equity based on all the mafia defending her, plus I think taskmanager is a more valuable player to have in LYLO

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

The wagon on ele is all town and the wagon on task 100% has mafia on it so lol if you believe this pool is TvTvT and you're still voting taskmanager.

Also Kira attacking me is a throwback to purgatorEE when mutantdevle solved the game and mafia's last hope was to scramble together some last ditch effort to discredit him and try to get him lynched

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Who do you think is mafia, Zelda?

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

I literally just addressed a post to you, which, if you were town, would have been a good opportunity to show your thought process and get your opinion heard. Instead you completely ignored it and made a weak jab to try to discredit me.

If you are town, you are concerned about finding multiple mafia members because we need correct lynches on D5 and D7 to win the game. If you are town, you are concerned about the alignments of kira and slabdrill and you need to evaluate them.
If you are mafia, you need only one more mislynch to win so you just need to push one person (me).

If anyone has any doubts about zelda being mafia please voice them now, because as it stands I will be voting for zelda tomorrow.

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

The reason it's so absolutely urgent that I be discredited ASAP is that once one of the people I'm calling out flips mafia, their whole scheme starts to go down in flames.

If I get lynched at F7, it's a mafia win.
If I get lynched at F6, I flip town and suddenly I become confirmed town, my reads are validated and mafia literally cannot win the game.

And I am perfectly fine with being lynched at F6.

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

F6 noms are Task/Shadow/NoNK, I get lynched means mafia loses, so while they are discrediting me now, they will be forced to change their tone then, since I can safely be lynched without having town lose the game.
F6 noms are Task/Shadow/anyone but NoNK, we lynch the guy who's not task/shadow. If they flip town, that's great, because then we have the entire mafia team cornered. If they flip scum, that's also great because it's autowin.

The vibe you guys should be getting from me right now is Day 3 of C9++ where I caught onjit as scum and slam dunked him into the grave. Guess what, I'm going to do it again.

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

What are you going to do when I flip town then, NoNK?

The fact that you said this

... you do realize tomorrow is LYLO, right?

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Kira, assuming I am town, who is the third scum?

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Like, if you're town you should seriously be considering zelda's objectively scummy actions and lack of actual drive to solve the game, instead you write him off as town with no explanation. Wanna give some more on that?

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Like, if you're town you should seriously be considering zelda's objectively scummy actions and lack of actual drive to solve the game, instead you write him off as town with no explanation. Wanna give some more on that?

You've been hard pushing Zelda while looking like the biggest scum. How can he not be town?

Option 1: Kira, an experienced player, actually believes what he is writing, and is town and does not understand the concept of a stronger mafia bussing a weaker mafia for towncred to set up a win in F5

Option 2: Kira is mafia who has been cornered and his only way out is to discredit the person who has caught the mafia team

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Zelda has not produced any reads despite being asked several times.
Zelda has been self aware about his own inactivity, something he does not do as town.

Can you explain how that is towny? Very very towny behavior? Can you compare that to zelda's previous games where he doesn't post a lot, but routinely pops in for some quick towny analysis where he says who he scumreads and who he thinks is town, and gives his take on the popular wagons?

Also @Kira why are you voting for taskmanager? Why not vote for ele instead?

As town, you obviously want the more valuable player alive in LYLO, right? Since you stated that the three of them are all town. Taskmanager is more capable of making accurate reads. Ele even admitted he doesn't really know how to read zelda. Zelda is going to be a major point of contention tomorrow. Don't you want to maximize town's chances there? Also, I'm going to be a major point of contention as well. Ele has zero experience with me, but taskmanager has experienced being totally tricked by me in C9++. Don't you think he has a better chance of correctly identifying if this is my scumgame or not?

This is my accusation:

You are mafia keeping ele alive because he doesn't have great reads, and is sheeping you because you can make witty charasmatic posts. Sort of like how I kept Daneeko alive from C9++ as an unofficial third mafia member.

Ele has admitted his reads aren't great. Task on the other hand has good reads. You say they are both town, yet you are voting to eliminate the stronger player.

If you are town, there is no reason for you to want to eliminate taskmanager over ele. Prove me wrong.

NoNK

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Yes, I know.

I am forcing you into a dilemma where you either need to admit that you are doing what's best for mafia, or make a move that benefits town.

The more you engage with me the more I'll keep forcing you into these things.

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Maybe you should just switch to zelda's strategy and throw shade at me and dodge my questions instead?

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Thank you kira, very cool!

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

BTW just a heads up for Slabdrill (or his replacement) and Tofuu Joe

One of you is mafia, and I don't know which

If you are the mafia, the only chance you have at victory is sacrificing zeldaXD, because Kira is already hard defending him so once zelda flips red, kira will be outed mafia for being the only guy hard defending him without any good reason

You need to sacrifice Zelda tomorrow if you want to have any hope of tricking the town, otherwise the whole team will come together very obviously as all the three people who didn't vote for zelda

Thank you and good luck!

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Re: Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Yeah kira is kind of outed mafia but sometimes you just get caught i mean it sucks and it feels bad but thats the game