Mafia 35 game thread [MAFIA WINS] (GAME OVER)

Norwee · 2019-11-02 22:32:30

NOMINATION MAFIA

Setup explanation:

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Rules:

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Alive players:

1: ZeldaXD
2: Kira
3: Onjit ShadowsEdge
4: ILikeTofuuJoe
5: Slabdrill
6: Taskmanager

Dead players:
KirbyKareem. Lynched Day 1. Vanilla townie.
(Processor) Peace. Lynched Day 2. Vanilla townie.
mutantdevle. Lynched Day 3. Vanilla townie.
eleizibeth. Lynched Day 4. Vanilla townie.
Crybaby NoNK. Lynched Day 5. Vanilla townie.

Day 2 nomination:

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Day 4 nomination:

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Minimania, Slabdrill, Processor, rat

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-03 08:36:32

So, heres is some information about the different times: (For kirbykareem)

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Sorry everyone I'm late for 8 hours.

Still 64 hours left so I'm not going to quickhammer.

KirbyKareem

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-05 15:50:02

peace wrote:

1: Crybaby townleansish-nullish he has some townie posts he alos has some scummy posts btu im more fna of townleaning
2: ZeldaXD his only post he made sofar was a lynch on kareem wihtout explaination just blindly following i guess?
3: Kira hammering so quicky when there is 62 **** hours left of discussion?! scum
4: ShadowsEdge null for now i cant really see town ro scum here he tent to be a good scum player tho...
5: ILikeTofuuJoe please post more
7: Slabdrill townlean has made some good points
8: mutantdevle nullish-scumish i do not belive he is actually 100% scum but eventhoguth he makes towny posts he coudl very well be maf
9: Peace tf do you think xD
10: eleizibeth abit more townlean then crybaby but both could be scum cause ele wooting crybab's posts
11: Taskmanager yeah politelync time? why? i see no **** logic behind policelynching sure its day 1 but cmon we have 62 **** horus to discuss yet we quick lyah an newbie who also is innonent
Dead players:
KirbyKareem. 100% town
[6] KirbyKareem: ShadowsEdge, Taskmanager, Crybaby, ZeldaXD, eleizibeth, Kira too quickly hamered
[1] Taskmanager: KirbyKareem istill dont get this blidn vote but ok

1. Is it because Crybaby said that you are not guranteed to be town?

3. Quickhammering does not count as a reason for scumreading someone. Please give an actual reason.

5. I get it.

7. Like Crybaby said, making good points doesn't mean someone is semi-confirmed town, especially when the point was already made.

8. What do you think Mutantdevle is scumlean?

9. What the **** does wooting a post even have anything to do with their alignment? If people always considered that, everyone would be wooting the good posts.

10. Kirbykareem is already dead. What you are saying is basically every person that voted for kirbykareem has a higher chance to be scum than others? Where did this logic come from? Explain.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 05:29:50

!vote peace

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 10:53:03

eleizibeth wrote:

tofuu why are you voting for peace?

Because I think this is most likely a 3t0s pool and I think lynching peace would be the best option. I was going to make a longer explanation but when I clicked submit the browser crashed.

rat

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 15:10:28

peace wrote:

well thi spool is setup to lynch me outmafia wants that mafia wants us to vote methey want the town to let them vot eon me becuase why wooudl town sac 2 storong twon players? i feel bad abotout this an dhoneslty as a VT i really fihgt bacck form my postions whereas if i was a cop i wouldve maby shared my info by now and thinkoh well i helped the town i haeve to say i enjoy mafia games and want to surivvivle to the end if possible but ti seems liek th ois game gives exceptions because of **** nominations anyways gtg

Typo count: 28
Grammar mistakes: 10

Do better, Peace.
Underline = grammar mistake
Bold = typo

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 15:46:25

I can't I just spent 20 minutes on catching Peace's errors.

Anyways, with only three quarters of a day left, Peace is almost guranteed to be lynched. Although I still don't get why the mafia chose peace with the other two stronger players, but that doesn't matter now.

Before Peace is officially hung, this will be Peace's grave:

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/ R.I.P \
| Peace |
| Mafia |
|  35   |
|Lynched|
| Day 2 |
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ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 23:45:44

TaskManager wrote:

hi
been quite busy recently
Crybaby's reasons for lynching Shadows are bad and I'm against doing it
I'm inclined to believe he's town, based on onjit's play pre-replacement. Also Shadow's posts didn't make me scum read him
I'm still suspicious of Mutant because of how he rolled into D2 though
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
I was going to make a longer explanation but when I clicked submit the browser crashed.
lame excuse
also what's the point making a summary of all of his typos instead of providing an actual opinion or whatever?

It is a totally unrelated post, not a lame excuse. I just wanted to see how much Peace got better.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-06 23:58:19

peace wrote:

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
Anyways, with only three quarters of a day left, Peace is almost guranteed to be lynched. Although I still don't get why the mafia chose peace with the other two stronger players, but that doesn't matter now.
mafia wants me dead obv you should know that its likley 2T/1S here i feel it and eithe rmutant and/or shadow is gaining townie credits from this i do NOT like that but ti coudl asol be 3t/0s but unlikely what if mutant AND shadow are btoh scum then they gained so much townie credits now

Can you even give any reason that this is a 2t1s or a 1t2s? Well, obviously, the reason you have is that "mafia wants me dead" which is basically the same as "I don't want to be lynched", but do you actually think that'll convince anyone? You need better reasons, and you haven't even answered the questions I asked you previously.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-07 14:44:31

mutantdevle wrote:

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
I can't I just spent 20 minutes on catching Peace's errors.
So why did you?

Because I'm bored

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-08 13:30:35

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ShadowsEdge wrote:

Whew boy, there's not a lot going on today, so this post might not have a whole lotta content. Sorry.
We have 9 players left, 3 of which are mafia. Objectively there is a 1 in 3 chance that whoever we lynch is mafia. By this, I mean multiple things, firstly, don't be cocky. We have 3 chances of getting scum before batter batter and we're out. But at the same time, there's a relatively high likelihood that whoever we lynch will be Mafia, so don't be too shy to present your case.
I know my own position, whether others choose to trust me on that position is in the eye of the beholder, so with my own position, I see a 3 in 8 chance of hitting a mafia. Frankly, though, the only people that give me bad vibes at the moment are Crybaby, Mutant, and Tofuu (This one's harder to explain, but I'll do my best).
Crybaby just seems too aggressive, while it's not a scum trait, it seems like they were trying desperately to pin the lynch on either me or Mutant. Though they were right about Peace, I'm more inclined to believe Crybaby was heavily advocating for Peace as a way to get the townie credit from it.
Then there's Mutant. Though they've been bickering constantly, I don't like that Crybaby went directly to me, despite being in constant argument with Mutant, and having some weak reasoning as to why I was a better candidate for the rope than Mutant (ie. main reason being that I'm a hard player to read; I've presented my case for the first reason, and the second reasoning is not a reason to suspect someone). If Crybaby is truly scum, then the building block for this would be that Crybaby is trying to protect his teammate.
Another point on the both of them is just that their whole argument on D2 seemed like a bunch of BS and it was completely stupid. To me, it seemed like they were arguing just to argue, rather than to form an opinion of each other. Crybaby claimed that it was because they wanted to "Debate [Mutant] on [his] logic," despite that, there is a fraction of the amount of cases where Crybaby breaks down my posts, and Peace's posts, despite Crybaby seemingly breaking down every piece of Mutant's posts. They claimed that my posts "left no room for [Crybaby] to dissect [my] posts" but even after I made a post addressing this, and posts following this, Crybaby still failed to have any sense of an argument towards me.
Crybaby's reasoning for targetting Mutant seems like a way just to argue, just for the heck of it. And to what purpose does it serve? It could mean multiple things, but personally I feel like Crybaby is trying to break any connections between him and Mutant, to prevent any ideas of a connection between the two.
And then, there's Tofuu. This one I don't really have any "evidence" for, it's mainly just a feeling. Instead of providing any reasoning as to why they suspected Peace, they just showed off a bunch of typos and grammar mistakes that Peace made and called it a day. It's also worth noting that Mutant has shown a level of disagreement to Tofuu, which if Mutant and Crybaby are a scum team, that would be the MO that Crybaby and Mutant have followed. He also just seems not to care at all, at one point, he said he did it simply because he was bored.
All of this is hypothetical, and I don't claim that any of this is true. This is my own personal belief based on the way things have gone for the first two days. I am not throwing out suspicions of anyone else, but I want to present my case, and why I find these specific individuals the most suspicious out of the remaining players.
For all of y'all who don't want to read all of this (It's not long but I'll do it anyway)
TL;DR
My own suspicions are directed towards Crybaby, Mutant, and Tofuu because of Crybaby's general aggressiveness towards Mutant specifically, while feigning aggressiveness to myself and Peace. Towards Tofuu, there is no full reasoning, but in general, they haven't contributed much, and seem to just be trying to follow a sense of majority while putting in their own "input," as well as a slight connection with Tofuu and Mutant.
Anyway, I should be heading off to sleep now. The conversation right now is, in my opinion, at a moot point right now. So I'm putting my cards down on the table to generate conversation. Disagree with me, agree with me, do whatever you want. Just don't let other people influence your opinion. Create your own opinion, and only use other's opinions as a reference, not as the holy grail.

Honestly, I don't see how Mutant has disagreed with me except for the post where he questioned me why I did the useless post about Peace's grammar. So where is the slight connection between me and Mutantdevle? Also, I've only played like 10 games of mafia including the games I've played on mafiascum. I don't see why following the majority is anything scumish forr a newbie like me. I'd also like to point out that I've never suspected Peace. Just like I've explained before, that wholee grammar mistakes thing was made onlyy because I feel bored. Why are you so intense about it? I meant nothing to disagree with Peace or suspecting Peace is one of the Mafia members.

Right now, I am seeing that TaskManager is semi-aggresive to Mutantdevle. Since Mutantdevle was one of the nominees on Day 2, TaskManager might be thinking to push the lynch on Mutantdevle or someone else. This is a scummy action as how TaskManager pushed the whole policy lynch wagon on KirbyKareem and how he made the L-1 vote on Peace. From how he said he wanted the remaining twenty hours to end, I interpret TaskManager cannot wait for Day 3 to comee so he can do something. From the start of the day, I think that action might be trying to push the wagon on a strong town player. My read on TaskManager is scum-lean.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-09 07:43:42

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ShadowsEdge wrote:

Alright I'm up now, as per usual I have school soon so I'll be inactive while I'm there.
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how Mutant has disagreed with me except for the post where he questioned me why I did the useless post about Peace's grammar. So where is the slight connection between me and Mutantdevle?
That is exactly why I said the slight connection is there. With Crybaby and Mutant, the argument was entirely BS and had no purpose other than to just argue. Your post about Peace's grammar had no point other than to defame Peace. The reason it's only "slight" is because Crybaby and Mutant is that their MO was to argue to break connections. Mutant said something about your post, and if Mutant is scum, I don't think he would create the same level of aggression to both his partners, hence, he would argue less, but to some degree, with his other partner. This is one of the reasons I don't believe Task is scum, if Mutant does flip scum.
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
I'd also like to point out that I've never suspected Peace. Just like I've explained before, that wholee grammar mistakes thing was made onlyy because I feel bored. Why are you so intense about it? I meant nothing to disagree with Peace or suspecting Peace is one of the Mafia members.
This is just from personal experience, just because you say someone is Town doesn't mean that you're definitively Town. Scum can easily claim someone is town and get away with it with free townie points. The fact that you never suspected Peace doesn't remove suspicions from you. This whole situation is more than just the lynch on Peace, it's the motivation behind the lynch.
The idea that I'm being "intense" about everything is false, I said in that same post that these are all just theories to get the discussion going because the only thing going on right now is suspicion on Task, who, I don't find a reason to suspect. As such, I don't claim that any of this is true, it's simply my own opinion and observations of what's going on in the game right now.
I'm not going to comment on your read of Taskmanager, though, because even though I have a town-lean on him, it's not concrete.
To Crybaby, I hope you feel better. The best I can give you is just not to stress too much about it. I don't know if that helps, at all. But, just take it easy.
Anyway, that's all I have to say. If others can provide their input that would be great, because conversation right now is strained and it's kind of worrying me.

I'm argree with a lot of the things that Mutantdevle said because I just felt like that a lot of things he said are fairlyy similar to what I thought. I know that saying someone is town doesn't give mee towwnie credits, I pointted out that I nenver suspected Peace because people were like oh cyou suspected Peace is mafia when he obviously isn't so you're probablyy scum. But, how does pointing out that makes me scum? It's like if I don't that I'm scum but if I do that I'm still scum. I don't know where you got your conclusion from, but how does that relate to TaskManager? Is it simply because I posted my scumread on TaskManager so that creates a connectin between me and TaskMAnager which, we are most likely opposite alignments? So, I am assuming that you are locking the scum team on me, Crybaby, and Mutantdevle. Or, is the scum team model you've made telling you that because TaskManager argued with us, then he is town. If that's the case, then you are probably incorrect. After my anaylization, I think you have the strongest scum read on Crybaby and Mutantdevle and think must be partners. And then you used them as a starting point to find peoplee who argueed with them. But TaskManager did that too. I don't understand why you think that Crybaby and Mutantdevle's argument is BS. Sinsce that is the origin of your entire hypothesis, please tell me why you think the argument is BS.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-09 07:54:37

TaskManager wrote:

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
Since Mutantdevle was one of the nominees on Day 2, TaskManager might be thinking to push the lynch on Mutantdevle or someone else.
Who's to say scum!mutant wouldn't throw himself into the lynch pool and play victim if need be?? Iirc he even admitted himself that it would be reasonable for him to nominate himself
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
This is a scummy action as how TaskManager pushed the whole policy lynch wagon on KirbyKareem
As per mutant's definition of pushing the wagon, I did not push Kareem's wagon. I simply voted for him and rightfully so. And so did other players. I wasn't the first one to cast the vote and I wasn't even online for a good chunk of the wagon's build up, so I don't know why you're picking at me specifically
Also, I put Peace in L-1 because I believe the whole discussion was exhausted at that point
ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
I don't see how Mutant has disagreed with me except for the post where he questioned me why I did the useless post about Peace's grammar. So where is the slight connection between me and Mutantdevle?
bruh
if two players agree with eachother most of the time thats what points to a connection between them
gg you just argued against your own point
By the way, imo having played 10 games is enough to deny you the "noob buff", so to speak

Kira get your **** together and post something of value
How much time do we have left?

I guess I have to point out that forr the most games I've played, I left in the middle of the game. I've only completed two games in total.

Also, is there any evidence that will disapprove scum!you will put Mutantdevle in to the nominees? I'm seeing you agreeing with Shadows read and giving me pressure to gain townie credits. You are both suspecting me and Mutantdevle are both scum. But you did it later, and ussed Shadow's points to back up your own thinking. Also, you are more aggresive so there must be some motivation behind throwing me into the "nominees" for the mojority lynch today.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-10 09:54:59

NorwegianBoy, please give a VC.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-10 10:00:22

Wait no we don't need a VC. The day ends noww.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-10 10:03:38

R.I.P mutant. I'm sure he was town.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-11 11:04:11

Although I have almost nothing to say here, but I claim start of day.

I'm a bit suspicious of ShadowsEdge.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-11 11:05:29

gott ninja'd

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-11 11:07:03

ZeldaXD wrote:

I think they are doing the same thing as in d1 where all nominations are seemingly town so the weakest player (ele) is lynched.

It's not day 1 it's day 2.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-11 14:17:04

I'm trying to complete a game here ok. The last mafia game that I completed was AITP four months ago.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-11 14:39:25

NoNK wrote:

I'm a bit offended that I"m not nominated. Also, these nominations are literally a townblock I posted yesterday. I put ele in the townblock as a joke to get reactions, but it seems mafia actually believed it.
This pool is 3 town. Scum Shadow does not self-nominate twice in a row when there's all this suspicion that a mafia nominated themselves day 1. Spoiler alert, they didn't.
Scum ele doesn't self nominate when it's been demonstrated we love lynching weak players.
Scum Taskmanager does self nominate here. That being said I don't think he's mafia, but he's the most likely of the three to be mafia.
!vote Taskmanager

You said this pool is 3 town, then cyou said Task is mafia.

NoNK wrote:

That being said, knowing this pool is 3 town puts me very close to having a full solve.
Mafia have been nominating good / active players all game (I consider peace to be a good player). Mafia tend to nightkill (or in this case nominate) people who are NOT like them, so they have better chance of surviving to endgame. (read: C9++). The fact that this trend has continued makes me think that yeah, this pool is all town.
8 players left. {Task, Ele, Shadow } are all town. Doesn't matter who we kill today as long as we agree the other two are town, though I highly discourage lynching shadow. I am ok to lynch task or ele, but I'm not 100% on who I prefer more though. I think ele being nominated 1 day before LYLO more or less spews him town beyond a reasonable doubt though. That being said I'm not confident he will perform in LYLO whereas I think taskmanager will. So I'm indecisive on that at first glance.
5 players left. I read my role pm, so { NoNK } town.
4 players left. I /think/ the last town is {ZeldaXD }, but that's a less confident read then the rest, so I want to bring zelda to final 4..
I think the exact scumteam is { Slabdrill, Kira, IliketofueJoee }, with zelda as a wildcard.
Going through the ISO's, that scumteam actually makes sense.
Kira is playing more or less the perfect EE forums scumgame, in which you just lurk hard and lynch town. Kira is the kind of person who, after flaming out last game, and watching shadow lurk to the end, would absolutely just lurk this game and push scum agenda through votes.
Slabdrill's ISO is just explaining the game, riding wagons, and contributing nothing. That is par for the course for slabdrill, however what makes slabdrill more suspicious to me is the fact that Kira called him mafia out of the blue, which just feels exactly like the distancing I did on shadow, by calling him mafia when there was no chance he was going to get lynched. There's no harm in Kira also calling task and shadow town, since he's about to endgame anyways. I think if one of the two of them flips red, then the other will also flip red.
Iliketofuejoee is my most confident mafia read, and it's for a bit of a silly reason. Read his iso, it's just bad. He buries peace (bad), just defends himself about mutant (bad), is now suspicious about shadow despite him being town and also onjit replacing out? Bad bad bad. Okay, so get a load of this bad player who can't scumhunt right? Well the reason I think he's mafia and not bad town is literally that he hasn't replaced out yet despite that town's in a losing situation, instead he's just comfortable just existing in a losing situation for town.
-- F8 -->lynch (task/ele)
-- F7 LYLO --> lynch joe/slab/kira
--F6--> nomination lynch town ({ele, task}/shadow/noNK)
--F5 LYLO--> lynch joe/slab/kira
-- F4 --> lynch last mafia
-- F3 --> lynch zelda if game is still on
Final 2 alive are two of (Taskmanager, shadow, NoNK, ele), if no one trusts me to go to endgame that's cool too, just kill me at F6
And now you might be thinking "NoNK how could you possibly have the whole scumteam on day 4?" Well ok first of all read my post, and second of all, if you don't think that's the scumteam, that means I'm either wrong on zelda (which is fine, because we bring zelda + (the stray townie) to final 4 and then lynch them back to back), or you think I'm mafia (which doesn't make sense because I don't even have myself surviving to endgame), so I would have to be partners with one or more of {taskmanager, ele, shadow}, which will look pretty stupid after we lynch one of them today and they flip town

You stated that if you are mafia, you have to be partners with at least one nominee. We can't eliminate the posibility of you bussing task. It is also very suspicious that you came to a conclusion at the start of the day. Especially when it's an even day. If you posted this right after you were replaced, you might have been able to convince people to lynch me. But you didn't. Although you have a piece of eviddence which is that mutant flipped town, but that you can't really get a strong scumread of me out of that. Your theory soundds hilarious. Why does I'm not being replaced out of the game say that I'm scum? Well, I got a warning from norwegian saying that if I continue to be inactive he'll just replace me out. I want to finish this game. I'm trying to get better at mafia and if you know the games I've played before, I just posted useless junk in the thread and got policy lynched almost every time. The longeset I've survived without being policy lynched is to Day 3. I'm not leaving the game nor I'm being policy lynched. That means I'm getting better at mafia. Although my posts are still bad but it's not completely iseless anymore. I mean, why the **** do I get scumread literally every single time I play mafia? Once I literally threw the game for that.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-12 00:43:27

eleizibeth wrote:

i was thinking that shadow was probably meant to be the lynch bait because mafia realizes he looks sketchy because he pushed for a townie's lynch, so they wanna take advantage of that. if shadow was mafia, he wouldn't be so adamant about a townie's lynch, bc he knows that'd make him sus, unless that's what they want us to think~~
right now, i'm most comfortable lynching task because i'm FAIRLY confident that shadow is town, and i'm fairly confident i'm town too
(also NoNK, for future reference, i am a "She," thank u)

How in the world are you fairly confident that you're town? Did you even read your role PM?

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-12 14:43:42

NoNK wrote:

ILikeTofuuJoeHow wrote:
in the world are you fairly confident that you're town? Did you even read your role PM?
Why are you attacking low hanging fruit instead of responding to my post?

Wait what were you asking again?

Oh. Oops, I probably missed that. My suspicion on Shadow and Task still stands and this is what I think. By the way this is what I think of the nominees.
If Shadow flips scum, the scum team could be Shadow-NoNK-Ele/Zelda/Me
If Task flips scum, the scum team could be Task-??? -- I can't figure this out, but his partner is likely to be in one of the lurkers.
If Ele flips scum, the scum team is probably stupid.

And the last case, which is that this is a 3 town pool, then my prefered lynch is on Zelda, Kira, and Slabdrill. They are not really doing anything. Also, I'm not attscking low-hanging fruit, I just noticed it and posted it. At least I think we are supposed to post things and let people respond to it.

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-13 05:44:39

I've been thinking, should I vote Task or Shadow. I think I'll just go with the more suspicious.

!vote TaskManager

ILikeTofuuJoe · 2019-11-13 05:45:29

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