mafia 34 maf gave up town wins

Luka504 · 2019-10-28 12:55:31

Norwegianboy's post between your two posts made me think that you were talking about two separate issues

Luka504 · 2019-10-28 13:01:34

Yeah, I think I'm stressing too much over this game too.

Luka504 · 2019-10-28 20:53:12

Devlin wrote:

The fact that the Norwegian wagon was comprised of mostly joke votes is evidence that he is town.

It really isn't though. Joke votes are inherently worthless to observe because they're, well, joke votes. They can happen for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with what the person's actually said. They don't prove that NorwegianBoy is scum just as much as they don't prove he's a town.
They don't mean anything. Stop pretending like they do.

Devlin wrote:

I notice that you exempt yourself from this list.

Are you criticizing me... For not putting myself in my suspect list?

Devlin wrote:

What happened afterwards is what is crucial because confirming task's alignment gives us lots of information.

Really, now? Because I'd argue that NorBoy's flip will yield far more valuable information than Task's.
If he flips mafia like I believe he might, then that puts people who hastily voted for Taskmanager in quite a pickle.

Devlin wrote:

So the fact that he got so many votes is exactly why I think he's towny.

So why are you giving Norwegianboy the benefit of the doubt, but not Taskmanager? He received a ton of votes just like Norwegianboy did, so what gives?
Shouldn't they both be townies for you?

Luka504 · 2019-10-28 23:45:03

Well, this is a bit of a problem on my end;
I have a school trip tomorrow that lasts pretty much the entire week. Lots of travelling, no PC, and not much wi-fi. I'm also supposed to be sleeping rn but stress about the mafia game is apparently the best caffeine to ever exist.

As of right now, I'd still be up for a NorwegianBoy or a Devlin lynch because they're both acting just a tad off for my tastes, but considering the setup, it'll be pretty risky to do so.
I've yet to (seriously) vote for someone, and I don't think I will. I also won't vote to end the day, because... well, there's no real reason to end the day early, is there?

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:16:27

See, the problem is that I have no clue whether or not peace specifies the exact role of the investigated person.
But considering the fact that he the description for cop in post #1 is "you know the drill" Im willing to bet that all it does is state only the faction.

Therefore, I find it conspicuous that Devlin specifically called TM by his 'full role'.
You wouldn't know his full role.
!Lynch Devlin

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:17:55

FYI still on the school trip. Won't be active today either, so my vote will be essentially locked on Devlin.

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:29:11

Oh, that works too.
!vote norwegianboy
No other cop claim today thank

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:41:39

Kirby's claim is more trustworthy than Devlin's solely based on the way it was worded.
Devlin can't know TM's role for certain, so why there was no reason to call him a mafia roleblocker.

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:43:15

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I don't like how quickly Luka followed that vote.

Shut up you hypocrite you followed Devlin's vote quickly too.

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:45:38

No, if norboy is mafia then Devlin is almost certainly his buddy. Do not protect him.

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:47:02

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Kirby's claim is more trustworthy than Devlin's solely based on the way it was worded.
Devlin can't know TM's role for certain, so why there was no reason to call him a mafia roleblocker.
What is this moon logic? How do you know whether Peace tell the cops people's roles or not?

"You know the drill" implies a generic cookie cutter role, and a role cop's role is to only tell the faction of the investigated person.

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:50:05

Oh, just like you did when you voted for Taskmanager?
Hah, you're a riot.

Luka504 · 2019-10-30 23:55:19

Jawapa I can send you dozens of pictures of my school trip if you really don't believe I'm on one.

Also are you seriously using d1 **** as an argument against me? Bruh.

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 00:05:26

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Yeah let's quicklynch without thinking this through. Galaxy brain move.
says the guy that jumped on my wagon right away
come on dude youre drowning in hypocrisy at this point
Maybe you missed the post i made where i told town to wait with lynching you until we got a second guilty.

You still jumped on the bandwagon in two seconds flat though.

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 00:08:02

mrjawapa wrote:

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I'm going to sleep now. Town please lynch either Task or Kirby.
This makes me believe task and kirby are actually innocent.
I suggest lynching either mutant or norboy

Can you elaborate on how it changed your mind?

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 00:13:51

Wha

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 01:46:59

You might have fatfingered the post button, but you still intentionally wanted to vote for norboy.
So, why did you change your mind?

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 02:07:38

I don't like your buddy buddy relationship with norwegianboy, Devlin. Oh sure, you're trying to create distance between the two of you now, but in the past, not only have you defended him, but he also seemed to mirror your voting.

And just recently he put his trust into you over Kirby.

mrjawapa

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 02:10:46

Well, 'over you' is probably the wrong way to put it.
What I meant to say was that he's trusting your detective claim but he doesn't trust kirby's, despite the fact that they're about equal in trustworthiness.

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 02:23:47

No Devlin, you're not a confirmed townie. Your ties with norwegianboy are too strong for me to just ignore.

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 02:32:51

Devlin, when did I say that?

Minimania

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 02:50:27

Devlin, enough.

I do not trust you, and after norboy flips mafia I want you to join him on the noose. Your behavior is just too weird.

I don't know what you're doing right now. Your points are just bad; do you expect me to take you seriously when you spout "so you're saying" arguments and wild hypothetical scenarios?

Your ties with norwegianboy are still there, and regardless of your attempts at justifying them, they won't just disappear. They happened, and they're a black mark on your forehead that you can't wash of.

mrjawapa

Luka504 · 2019-10-31 06:43:33

mutantdevle wrote:

What ‘so you’re saying’ arguments are you on about

mutantdevle wrote:

Wait, so you’re saying that even upon task flipping scum you still wouldn’t trust me?

"So you're saying" arguments are very fallacious and are only really ever used in bad faith. They're used to rewrite what the other person has said to make it easier to attack; a strawman, essentially.

mutantdevle wrote:

I don’t understand what wild hypotheticals you’re referring to because everything I’ve said has been grounded.

mutantdevle wrote:

The role blocker on the other hand still has a chance of preventing a vig shot even if norboy is the doctor. He also has the added threats of preventing our doctor from saving a cop or just preventing a cop from investigating someone.
With the mafia’s night kill and the role blocker alive the mafia will be able to prevent up to 2 cops tonight from giving us any results if they get lucky in avoiding our doctor. I’d much rather play it safe and take out the role blocker than risk trying to get the doctor.

These are wild hypothetical 'what if' questions that describe scenarios that are unlikely to happen. Again, often used in bad faith because they're, in most cases, misleading.
Aside from the innocent child, the possibility for any role to screw up always exists. Cops can investigate someone who ends up dying that same night, vigis could end up shooting someone innocent, and doctors could end up saving a mafia's life from a vigi bullet.
That's the inherent risk of being a power role; you risk making things worse for your faction, and using what as grounds to lynch someone is pretty stupid.

mutantdevle wrote:

then in your very next post literally **** say you could never trust me because of my previous defence of Norwegianboy???

I literally did not do that.

mutantdevle

Luka504 · 2019-11-01 07:21:18

Peace prod Dan already thanks

Luka504 · 2019-11-01 07:25:51

Task, what do you suggest the PRs should do tonight

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