Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Onjit · 2019-09-21 03:20:30

Game is over, mafia win by technicality

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Welcome to Mafia 31!

Rules:

1. Respect everyone, it's just a game, don't be a jerk.
2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
3. Only discuss the game in this thread, or threads I assign to you.
4. Dead men tell no tales. Please use the graveyard thread if you have been eliminated.
5. Make all night actions via PM to me.
6. Don't use the mod text color please.
7. Try to post at least once every 24 hours.
8. Days will last 72 hours, nights will last 24 hours.
9. If you break the rules I will be rather ornery.
10. Have fun!

The setup:

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You thought that nothing in your little village could go wrong. Sure, there were a few unsavoury people around, but what town doesn't? Things were going fine. Until one morning, you left your house, and were perplexed to discover that there was two of everything! Looking to the left of your house, you saw your house, or at least what looked like your house! As everyone emerged from their houses, it was surprising to find that there was also double the number of people! But you couldn't recognise anyone, not the seven from your town, not the seven from the ersatz town that arrived overnight, and certainly not the mysterious drifter that seemed to be from both universes and neither at the same time...

Lynching rules:
Each day the highest lynch target from each universe with the most votes are eliminated.
If there is a tie in one of the universes at the end of the day, the result will be a nolynch scenario for that universe.
All votes can be added/removed until the deadline.

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Roles:
15 Players.
The players will be assigned the following roles:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha
Mafia Backup Alpha
Town Universe Cop Alpha
Town Faction Cop Alpha
Town Mason Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Mafia Universe Cop Omega
Mafia Backup Omega
Town Universe Cop Omega
Town Faction Cop Omega
Town Mason Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Drifter

Role descriptions:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Universe Cop. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Mafia Backup Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Backup. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
In the case that your teammate dies, you will gain their ability.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Town Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Universe Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Faction Cop Alpha/Omega::

You are the Town Faction Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which faction a player is in. [Town/Mafia]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Mason Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Mason. You are in universe [?].
You have the ability to communicate through secret channels with the Town Mason in the other universe here: [?]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Drifter:

You are the Drifter. You do not belong to either universe, but float between them.
Every night you will choose a universe to belong to temporarily. For all purposes of votes, mafia kills, and cop checks, you will be affected by your choice. You're an affable person and will always appear to be "Town" when checked by a cop. You cannot be lynched Day 1.
You will win if you survive to the end of the game.

Game End:
When a universe concludes its game (either by all town or all mafia dying), those players will be removed, and the remaining players will continue until their game concludes.

Living Players:

NorwegianboyEE
TaskManager
Luka504
mrjawapa
ZeldaXD
Crybaby
peace
ShadowsEdge
eleizibeth

Graveyard:

Andymakeer (Town Vanilla Alpha) - Lynched Day 1 [Link]
Anatoly (Town Faction Cop Alpha) - Killed Night 1 [Link]
Kira (Town Vanilla Omega) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
Kirby (Drifter) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
mutantdevle (Town Mason Alpha) - Killed Night 2 [Link]
2B55B5G TNG (Town Universe Cop Omega) - Killed Night 2 [Link]

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 11:44:23

wow this escalaed quickly

!lynch Anatoly
lets go
i say we go for him instead of peace if we're doing a policy lynch cause peace is easy to read

Luka504 wrote:

ShadowsEdge wrote:
I know I'm not mafia so I'm just trying to help genuinely now.
You know you aren't a mafia?
Huh.
That's rather strange. Why not just say "I'm not mafia"?

luka attacks wording to pull scum tells out of his ****
thats petty, slight scum lean here

norboy pressuring shadow seemed really weak and unreasonable to me, however it still yielded a result
even though it seems like it, i wouldn't say norboy and luka are teammates, since that would be too risky to do first day into the game
however judging by luka's day 1 play in french revolution i'd say it is within his possibilities to push aggressively on day 1 as a mafia player

at the same time i find it really odd how shadow instantly took a "yeah lynch me im dead now" attitude

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 12:38:49

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Taskmanager wrote:
i say we go for him instead of peace if we're doing a policy lynch cause peace is easy to read
Isn't Anatoly also relatively easy to read?

iirc he always came off as scummy whether he was town or mafia
in peace's case he acts dumb and confused when hes town but its very obvious when hes mafia (look at railmat's game)
also anatoly produces larger rage posts

peace wrote:

i think we shouldnt randomly do policly lynches

obviously you would think that because youre one of the main targets

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 15:48:37

mutantdevle wrote:

I'd like us to add "If you are the only person voting for someone, unvote by the end of the day".

can we afford an exception to that for peace&anatoly wagons
cause getting both out in one shot would be awesome

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 17:24:32

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ShadowsEdge wrote:

You and Luka refuse to see an alternative, which is why I went about things the way I did. 2B55 proposed the idea that:
2B55B5G TNG wrote:
But think of it in another way, if Shadow is mafia will he act like this?
But both of you disregarded it, I tried to bring it up again, and it was, again, disregarded.

hey its like mafia never ever used that excuse or the "lynch me i suck" strat

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 17:25:31

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Taskmanager wrote:
can we afford an exception to that for peace&anatoly wagons
cause getting both out in one shot would be awesome
Taskmanager going for the low-hanging fruit like always.
Hey, are you trying to set up easy mislynches?

no i think its beyond obvious why im happy to lynch either of them

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 18:21:03

Anatoly wrote:

I see taskmanager figured out my message and knows what universe I'm in. I hope trusting him was not a mistake. I'm also sure taskmanager is in my universe.

i actually barely read your posts but that made me wonder, what made you think i figured out some message of yours, and i see what you mean now
honestly why would you do that

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 18:25:07

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I never told anyone to lynch me. Why are you still pushing the idea that I'm encouraging people to lynch me?

that's the impression i got from your posts in that long page 1-3 conversation
you were saying "my lynch is inevitable; im dead now" (paraphrasing) a bunch of times

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 18:31:34

mutantdevle wrote:

Anatoly wrote:
Ah yes - and Lukas point that we should vote only one player is a bit vague
I personally think that voting 1 player each day is the optimal scenario as that deprives the mafia of as much information as possible.
However, lynching 2 players at once is most optimal when we know the universe of at least 1 player being lynched. So that means any information learnt about people's universes from the lynch would also serve the help the town a little if that person is also a lynch target for the next day.

That's a valid point but I don't think we should always stick to lynching 1 person per day
If there are two scummy targets or a TvS situation, it'd be worthy voting up on both imo
Plus there's 4 mafias with 10 townies, with 1 lynch per day and on average 1 townie death at night (or 2 in worst case scenario), lynching 1 player per day is dangerously slow

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 19:26:10

Anatoly wrote:

On start the probability for this happening is way to high, agreed. Maybe D1 - X || Y, D2 - given on information 2 people, then only one per day?

what does that even mean
this is literally why i ignore most of your posts and why i voted you

ShadowsEdge wrote:

My whole point is that no one else was going to be lynched. Plurality lynch takes place, so yes, I jumped to the conclusion. One vote on me, and no votes on anyone else. Just one vote. That makes me be lynched because plurality lynch takes place. It didn't matter if people joined a bandwagon on me, because if I was the only one being voted at the end of the day, I would be lynched either way, because of plurality.

it was just a few hours into the game holy ****
how did you deduce no one else was going to be lynched

Luka504

TaskManager · 2019-09-21 19:56:17

ShadowsEdge wrote:

there was suspicion on me, which is something more than just a Policy lynch

suspicion?
what for?
from what i understood it was based entirely on previous games and was unreasonable as hell

mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 00:10:47

im unsure on what to make of shadow/norboy/luka drama because of how distinctive are shadow's and norboy's playstyles from past games

last time we had a player pressured and screaming at everyone because they are getting the heat, we didnt believe them, and they turned out to be a doctor (norboy in french revo)
i dont want the same thing to happen again

rat

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 00:13:26

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Norwegian chose me specifically while deterring from you, Taskmanager, Jawapa, Crybaby, etc.

i dont agree with lynching someone because they played well as a mafia in the previous game
however, if we pick by that criteria, you would be indeed the most eligible choice since you pretty much went under the radar in french revo game

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 09:54:52

Anatoly wrote:

Read it. I'm just mentioning that D1 lynch is like a shot in the dark: That's a very thin layer of ice you'll step on.

Anatoly wrote:

About 20 hours remain. We don’t have enough information, for i’ll just vote completely random:
https://m.imgur.com/a/58uaxMx
!vote 2b55b5g tng

Hypocrite! So you use randomness to justify voting someone, but when you're getting the short end of the stick, suddenly it's a thin ice

rat

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 11:51:04

Anatoly wrote:

im eliminated in the first round even in reality, thats why mu sovial skills became weaker - i decided to be completely isolated - and now my life is ruined

are we REALLY going through this again

Luka504, Slabdrill

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 12:06:17

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

If we must lynch between Shadow and Anatoly, I prefer Shadow, it gives us a lot more info

What info would we gain?

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 12:23:21

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Shadow might be just bad at defending. I’m not leaning Shadow towards either town or mafia because of that.
Shadow, imo, is still a valuable player for us to keep.

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
2B55B5G TNG wrote:
If we must lynch between Shadow and Anatoly, I prefer Shadow, it gives us a lot more info
What info would we gain?
Info about Norboy and Luka, maybe.
Lynching Anatoly doesn’t really give us anything.

Why are you fence sitting

Also specifically what info would we gain?
Shadow flipping mafia doesn't confirm town Luka/Norboy, since there are two teams
Shadow flipping town doesn't tell us much cause he only got himself in trouble by poorly reacting to pressure. And pressuring isn't necessarily scum motivated. I'd even say it's unlikely to be scum motivated day 1. Though we still had Luka attacking Slab D1 in french revo, so this isn't always true..

I don't like people justifying lynches with a "we gain info" card, unless you put actual facts on the table

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 12:39:04

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Okay, even if there’s no info we can gain, is it worth lynching Shadow? Shadow is a strong player and he can help us a lot (if he’s town). Lynching him in D1 is just not a very good move imo.
I currently don’t really have a candidate to suggest.

You just argued FOR lynching him, now after I told you we get no info, you're telling ME that we shouldn't lynch him
Wtf
2B susp

mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2019-09-22 20:41:37

Anatoly you shouldn't claim don't be dujmb
you've already revealed too much lol

Andy seems like a casual noob making low effort posts and I don't see what do we gain from lynching him
Besides, providing no input is not necessarily scum indicative, especially if you're new
but his recent defense is admittedly trash

mutantdevle wrote:

As a surface level, Andy flipping scum would be evidence that peace is town

why/how

I don't trust kira's blind shot against Andy, and with mutant eagerly following him it is especially alarming

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 08:56:48

Well that lynch was a waste

mutantdevle wrote:

If Kira is scum then lynching Andy was a vital first step in finding that out.

You trying to blame kira for the entire wagon?
I really don't like the confidence with which y'all pushed it

mutantdevle wrote:

my motivations for voting for Andy were 100% to redirect the wagon away from Shadow

This is a fair point
It's unlikely that Mutant and Shadow are buddies cause mutant pressured him prior to that

mutantdevle wrote:

an Andy lynch gives us decent information.

So what information did we gain
Kira pushing for Andy on the spot makes him scummy, but is there anything else that we gained from that lynch cause I don't see it rn
Other people that followed the wagon are no better, but I'll have to look at them later

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 11:46:57

Luka504 wrote:

In that post, Devlin says that Anatoly claimed to be from Omega, not Alpha.
Devlin, you purposefully lied to deceive the mafia, didn't you?

That's why I'm inclined to think that he's townish, in spite of sheeping Kira

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 13:45:32

Kira might be bluffing
Also claiming universe as a vanilla townie doesn't really benefit mafia, cause one could still lie about it easily, so I wouldn't exactly say it's antitown in this case
Honestly I don't see the point of making this loud claim when someone pressures you if you're just a VT??

2b55b5g, Luka504, rat, peace

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 17:13:42

Andymakeer wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
I will not change my vote until this question is answered.
Kira and Devlin are really rubbing me the wrong way rn.
i'll defend myself using this argument
anatoly voted on me to remove the tie
ill counterback, so if we are from the same universe, we'll both survive for D1
if i survive this round, i'll treat kira and devlin both as mafia from the same universe

!vote Anatoly

This post by Andy gave others a good opportunity to hop on his wagon with an excuse of breaking the tie, and two people made use of it:

Crybaby wrote:

vote Andy
Nice try, but we already spoke about forcing ties.

Kirby wrote:

!unvote
!vote andymakeer
i still think anatoly is a smarter choice but i don't want there to be a chance of a tie

Crybaby later brought additional attention to it:

Crybaby wrote:

I realize it looks kinda bad now but the only reason I voted for Andy is because he pushed for a tie. This was right after he evened his votes with Anatoly, also I made it very clear that I would become suspicious of anyone who tried to push for a tie.

That could be perceived as a town move, a scum player would just hope that everyone forgets about it
I'm not sure whether specifically scum Crybaby would do that, cause that's Crybaby and he's very good at making townish moves even when he is mafia

What do y'all think

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 17:33:23

You know what I hate about inactive players
to isolate their posts you have to find one of them first

Zelda hasn't been much active either

Norwee, Slabdrill, peace

TaskManager · 2019-09-24 17:39:02

Kira wrote:

mrjawapa wrote:
Kira wrote:
Wait, I don't get it. What does my universe have to do with anything? It doesn't matter what universe I'm from in the end, I am just a VT.
Because if you're lying about your universe, you're probably lying about your role.
If you are part of Town you'd know that my claim post is legit since you received the same.

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Luka504, mrjawapa, mutantdevle

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