Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Onjit · 2019-09-21 03:20:30

Game is over, mafia win by technicality

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Welcome to Mafia 31!

Rules:

1. Respect everyone, it's just a game, don't be a jerk.
2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
3. Only discuss the game in this thread, or threads I assign to you.
4. Dead men tell no tales. Please use the graveyard thread if you have been eliminated.
5. Make all night actions via PM to me.
6. Don't use the mod text color please.
7. Try to post at least once every 24 hours.
8. Days will last 72 hours, nights will last 24 hours.
9. If you break the rules I will be rather ornery.
10. Have fun!

The setup:

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You thought that nothing in your little village could go wrong. Sure, there were a few unsavoury people around, but what town doesn't? Things were going fine. Until one morning, you left your house, and were perplexed to discover that there was two of everything! Looking to the left of your house, you saw your house, or at least what looked like your house! As everyone emerged from their houses, it was surprising to find that there was also double the number of people! But you couldn't recognise anyone, not the seven from your town, not the seven from the ersatz town that arrived overnight, and certainly not the mysterious drifter that seemed to be from both universes and neither at the same time...

Lynching rules:
Each day the highest lynch target from each universe with the most votes are eliminated.
If there is a tie in one of the universes at the end of the day, the result will be a nolynch scenario for that universe.
All votes can be added/removed until the deadline.

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Roles:
15 Players.
The players will be assigned the following roles:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha
Mafia Backup Alpha
Town Universe Cop Alpha
Town Faction Cop Alpha
Town Mason Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Mafia Universe Cop Omega
Mafia Backup Omega
Town Universe Cop Omega
Town Faction Cop Omega
Town Mason Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Drifter

Role descriptions:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Universe Cop. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Mafia Backup Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Backup. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
In the case that your teammate dies, you will gain their ability.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Town Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Universe Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Faction Cop Alpha/Omega::

You are the Town Faction Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which faction a player is in. [Town/Mafia]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Mason Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Mason. You are in universe [?].
You have the ability to communicate through secret channels with the Town Mason in the other universe here: [?]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Drifter:

You are the Drifter. You do not belong to either universe, but float between them.
Every night you will choose a universe to belong to temporarily. For all purposes of votes, mafia kills, and cop checks, you will be affected by your choice. You're an affable person and will always appear to be "Town" when checked by a cop. You cannot be lynched Day 1.
You will win if you survive to the end of the game.

Game End:
When a universe concludes its game (either by all town or all mafia dying), those players will be removed, and the remaining players will continue until their game concludes.

Living Players:

NorwegianboyEE
TaskManager
Luka504
mrjawapa
ZeldaXD
Crybaby
peace
ShadowsEdge
eleizibeth

Graveyard:

Andymakeer (Town Vanilla Alpha) - Lynched Day 1 [Link]
Anatoly (Town Faction Cop Alpha) - Killed Night 1 [Link]
Kira (Town Vanilla Omega) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
Kirby (Drifter) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
mutantdevle (Town Mason Alpha) - Killed Night 2 [Link]
2B55B5G TNG (Town Universe Cop Omega) - Killed Night 2 [Link]

rat · 2019-09-21 22:41:22

mutantdevle wrote:

In the previous game you were phenomenal, yet now you can't even stick to the same story.

i think we gotta keep in mind that shadow was mafia last game, so he was probably thinking about his posts a lot more

however, when he was confronted by whoever about getting really upset (this game), it seemed like he had to think of a reason to back up why he was getting upset. once he thought of "oh, i'm getting upset because it's likely i'll be lynched even with one vote, because of the universe thing," it was almost like he realized that this was a good excuse, and so he keeps repeating it hoping that we see it as a valid explanation for getting upset. i do think it's a good reason by itself, but i'm starting to doubt it because of how much he is rambling about it, and how ramb-ly he's getting in general

rat · 2019-09-21 23:29:50

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I didn't get upset, I just pointed out the fact that Norwegian and Luka didn't give way to any sort of stance to see me as Town. They were certain I was Mafia, from within the time frame people started saying I was getting "paranoid." My opinion that I would be lynched had nothing to do with the universe, it was the fact that plurality lynch takes place, and I was sure that there would be no other point in question for any other claims. I was wrong in assuming there would be no Policy lynches, which is my mistake. And even in that case, the case against me is building up, so in reality, I still hold to that expectation. Just because I saw it as a "Good Excuse" doesn't mean that I pushed the idea for me being "upset." I restate the fact because I've been asked multiple times as to why I've been acting "paranoid" or now "upset." I'm getting "Ramble-y" because I have no other way to push my point. I've tried saying my points and getting people to listen to reason, but it's been met with backlash and more reasonings for why that pins me as Mafia. So yeah, I'm being more Rambley than I was last game, but it's not just for the heck of it.

first of all, i'm using "upset" as a term for "mildly dissatisfied"
now that i think about it, your ramblings do sound like you just want us to believe you. like you're just frustrated that no one believes you, which i can definitely empathize with. while i do think you're being honest, i thought you were being honest last game, but,, evidentially,, you were not. i think your manipulation skills from last game kinda says that your words can't really be trusted, even if you are town, and that's kinda the only reason i, and many others, think you probably aren't town in this game as well. like, this could all be a lie and we would be proven stupid,, yet again. maybe u shouldn't have played so well last game u_u..
anyway, if i ignore last mafia game, it does seem like you're being targeted, and you can't really do anything to prove your innocence.
(side note: sorry if my posts make no sense and that they're taking so long to write, i literally cannot think or focus at the moment. Thanks for being patient )

rat · 2019-09-24 17:56:16

mrjawapa wrote:

Would be happy to most more. Hard to interject when like 4 people are constantly going back and forth. Conversation shifts a lot by the time I have a chance to respond.
!vote ele
This is based on meta. I have a feeling hes a power role of some sort, and is being quiet to avoid being killed.

sorry that i haven't been posting more. i haven't really had much time to sit down and formulate a response to any of this. like you said, it's hard to interject when a few people are just constantly going back and forth. when i first even realized that this game was starting, there were like 4 or 5 pages immediately, which exhausted me. still not sure what my opinion is on all of the drama bc i'm still kinda confused

also, why are you being so aggressive toward me? you mentioned earlier that kirby is always inactive in mafia games as well, and that he "shouldn't even be allowed to sign up anymore." (see #252)
why aren't you questioning any of the other inactive players that norboy listed? (zelda, crybaby, and kirby)

also: i'm a she

Kira wrote:

I'm actually agreeing with Jawapa here. Eleizibeth DID NOT follow the AndyMakeer vote knowing he wasn't part of Mafia and to avoid suspicions and she generally does not talk much, diverting attention somewhere else.

how the **** does this make any sense?

i did post a little bit in the beginning, but no one really seemed to comment on it so i figured it was useless. i didn't have anything else to add so i didn't say anything else
i've already established last game that i don't wanna vote for somebody just because they're inactive. andy hasn't said much, yeah, which is exactly why i didn't vote for him. he hasn't done anything that is "notably scummy." he's just been inactive. i support pressuring inactives to get more info, but i don't agree with lynching inactives just because they're inactive. we're wasting lynches if we just lynch inactive players imo

rat · 2019-09-24 18:14:27

TaskManager wrote:

not really
you should still voice your thoughts
having a mindset of "oh theyre not even listening to me well ill just stop posting" only benefits the mafia

eleizibeth wrote:

i didn't have anything else to add so i didn't say anything else

(i literally did not have anything else to add)

rat · 2019-09-24 18:22:47

oh ok well yeah i see your point then lmao

rat · 2019-09-25 00:55:18

mrjawapa wrote:

eleizibeth wrote:
why aren't you questioning any of the other inactive players that norboy listed? (zelda, crybaby, and kirby
RNG

wow, are you being serious?

!vote jawapa

rat · 2019-09-25 01:20:11

mrjawapa wrote:

Sort of.
I didn't pick kirby because kirby sucks at mafia, and does this every game. I didn't pick zelda because he was really quiet the last game, so it's normal behavior. That leaves you and crybaby. I just picked one. I want you all to do more, but I can't cast 4 votes.

listen man, i'm sincerely trying to help all that i can. the reason i wasn't as active as i'd like to be was because i was busy and i didn't have anything to say. and if kirby does this every game, why aren't you voting for him instead? zelda, crybaby, and i are all trying to contribute to the discussion, but kirby isn't, and yet you vote for me? i don't understand. you're cutting kirby some serious slack, why?

rat · 2019-09-25 17:50:51

!unvote

rat · 2019-09-25 21:49:53

alrighty ill probably be able to post my opinion later on tonight

rat · 2019-09-26 07:19:58

i think that kira should've thought this through more. if that was actually his "plan" all along, shouldn't he have realized that peace would've counterclaimed, and then kira wouldn't have been believed? (because peace is already a confirmed alpha member.)

if you reread the posts, you'll notice that kira tries to get peace to understand for far too long. i think it's because he was holding onto hope that peace would suddenly "get it" and follow along.

honestly i'm not sure why kira would think that peace is smart enough to "take the hint." one of them is lying, and i'm very certain that it's kira, because his ability to deceive people is FAR better than peace's. however, just because he's lying doesn't mean he's maf.

Kirby wrote:

from what i can gather, his post is basically saying "I have nothing to lose by counterclaiming you, since i'm already a target to the mafia because my universe was revealed. I would've even counterclaimed you if you claimed alpha cop and i actually was one, since the target is already on my back I have nothing to lose"

if this IS indeed what peace meant, then i think it's a good point and he's being honest.

mrjawapa wrote:

Peace counter claiming made Kira look like scum, and we were all going to lynch Kira. He tried to play it off as Peace making a false claim, and tried persuading Peace to claim drifter. It went over peace's head, and everything started to fall apart.

^^this
i don't think kira is lying about his plan. i think peace was just too stupid to realize what was happening and it messed everything up for kira. i'm still really confused what the hell kira was trying to accomplish with his "plan," so lynching him is not completely off the table for me; however, right now, i think he has a PR and was stupid for trusting peace.

as for jawapa, i don't really have much to say about him. i'm getting a bad vibe from him, but i think it's just because he's being a ****, as usual.

peace

rat · 2019-09-26 19:25:55

yeah, just because kira is lying doesn't mean he's scum. i think kira had a legitimate plan and peace **** it up. he's still acting really scummy though and i wouldn't be surprised if he were maf.
if kira were faction cop, i'm not sure why he wouldn't be more open about it, and wouldn't call kirby a town after N1, after he used his ability? although, he might've been trying to hide that he was faction cop, and might've been waiting to call out a few mafia members at once, because he called kirby a town member BEFORE peace counterclaimed. i guess this ruined kira's plan, so he might be trying to subtly hint that kirby is maf??? i don't understand why he's not more open about it, especially now that he'll probably be lynched.

i'll probably be voting for kirby but i want him to comment first.

rat · 2019-09-26 19:28:00

yeah, i also don't want there to be a tie rn

rat · 2019-09-26 21:39:16

zelda makes a really good point, i'm not gonna wait for kirby to say something bc i don't think it'll matter

!vote kirby

rat · 2019-09-27 00:50:33

ok, this makes a lot more sense now,!! i believe kirby and i think we shouldn't lynch him, he should be said something sooner.

I don't think this will do any good, but I can try

!vote kira

rat · 2019-09-28 02:13:58

well ****,

rat · 2019-09-28 04:10:48

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Elei has been more inactive. In The French Revolution, they were town, and they tried to be active, and they put their input in when they were asked, or when they felt they needed to. This game, it's different, Elei has been more inactive, and had a backlash when they were asked why they were being inactive.

ok hold up a second, i have genuine reasons to be inactive. i have homework to do, it's almost 11pm, and now y'all are accusing me of being scum???? i need to PRIORitize my LIFE dude. BUT like i said, it's 11pm and so i need to go to sleep soon, so i'll just post the gist of what i want to say rn.

ok listen

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Elei has been more inactive. In The French Revolution, they were town, and they tried to be active, and they put their input in when they were asked, or when they felt they needed to. This game, it's different, Elei has been more inactive, and had a backlash when they were asked why they were being inactive.

the only reason i joined this game was because task convinced me to, through discord. i was afraid of my schoolwork affecting the game, but i decided to join anyway. i knew i would have a lot more homework while this game was going on, but i thought i'd be able to handle it. clearly, i couldn't handle it to the point that i intended to, because i have OBVIOUSLY been very inactive this game. i acknowledge that. i don't think this is a valid reason for me to be scum though?? like??????

-- at the beginning i didn't say much because i had no idea it was gonna start so early, and i was REALLY overwhelmed. like, 4-5 pages of just arguing. i still don't comprehend what happened, and honestly, i don't intend to.
-- last game i was brought into the convo because luka asked me what i thought about what's going on. the difference in this game is that this game, i really don't have any opinions other than the ones i wooted. last game, what i thought exactly wasn't really being shared by anyone else, and so i made my own posts explaining it. this game, a lot of people are actually thinking the same thing i am, and so i am wooting them, instead of making a separate post. i also don't have a lot of time to just put my post into words.

rat · 2019-09-28 04:13:56

yikes i posted that too early. i was gonna add that i should be using this time to do my homework, then post. i'm saying that so y'all aren't like "oh but you have time to post right now!!!! you're lying about not having time!! blaeh blah bloh!"

and doing this for obvious reasons:

!vote crybaby

rat · 2019-09-28 04:19:18

vanilla town, zelda's lying

rat · 2019-09-28 04:22:12

it's gonna be the same **** like with peace and kira.
although, i think zelda has good intentions, i can explain tomorrow once everyone's claimed

rat · 2019-09-28 23:22:18

TaskManager wrote:

ay lets get this done
https://i.imgur.com/O7k2Uj6.png

anatoly can host

rat · 2019-09-29 02:00:50

Kira wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Bimps wrote:
Lying is not always anti-town. You really can't hate on kira for this, this is a completely new setup and he wanted to try something to trip up mafia. No shame in that.
I'm not 'hating' on anyone. I'm just telling Kira that he's being unreasonable by trying to pin the blame on peace when he himself was the real problem.
Lol at you saying I was the problem
“Kira is definitely not town, prove it to me by showing me concrete evidences”

yeah, you're the problem for thinking that peace would understand your "plan."

i think when luka says "problem," he just means that you're the one who is most at fault,, and that u shouldn't like, blame peace for not understanding something

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