Mafia 31 [Mafia Win]

Onjit · 2019-09-21 03:20:30

Game is over, mafia win by technicality

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Welcome to Mafia 31!

Rules:

1. Respect everyone, it's just a game, don't be a jerk.
2. Do not gamethrow. Play your role to win even if it seems dire, you never know what might happen.
3. Only discuss the game in this thread, or threads I assign to you.
4. Dead men tell no tales. Please use the graveyard thread if you have been eliminated.
5. Make all night actions via PM to me.
6. Don't use the mod text color please.
7. Try to post at least once every 24 hours.
8. Days will last 72 hours, nights will last 24 hours.
9. If you break the rules I will be rather ornery.
10. Have fun!

The setup:

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You thought that nothing in your little village could go wrong. Sure, there were a few unsavoury people around, but what town doesn't? Things were going fine. Until one morning, you left your house, and were perplexed to discover that there was two of everything! Looking to the left of your house, you saw your house, or at least what looked like your house! As everyone emerged from their houses, it was surprising to find that there was also double the number of people! But you couldn't recognise anyone, not the seven from your town, not the seven from the ersatz town that arrived overnight, and certainly not the mysterious drifter that seemed to be from both universes and neither at the same time...

Lynching rules:
Each day the highest lynch target from each universe with the most votes are eliminated.
If there is a tie in one of the universes at the end of the day, the result will be a nolynch scenario for that universe.
All votes can be added/removed until the deadline.

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Roles:
15 Players.
The players will be assigned the following roles:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha
Mafia Backup Alpha
Town Universe Cop Alpha
Town Faction Cop Alpha
Town Mason Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Town Vanilla Alpha
Mafia Universe Cop Omega
Mafia Backup Omega
Town Universe Cop Omega
Town Faction Cop Omega
Town Mason Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Town Vanilla Omega
Drifter

Role descriptions:
Mafia Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Universe Cop. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Mafia Backup Alpha/Omega:

You are the Mafia Backup. You are in universe [?]. Your teammate is [?]. You may communicate at any time in this Private Chat: [?].
In the case that your teammate dies, you will gain their ability.
Each night, as a team you may kill another player in the game, however, this will only succeed if that player is in your universe.
You will win when all of the members of the town in your universe are dead.

Town Universe Cop Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Universe Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which universe a player is in.
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Faction Cop Alpha/Omega::

You are the Town Faction Cop. You are in universe [?].
Every night, you may discover which faction a player is in. [Town/Mafia]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Mason Alpha/Omega:

You are the Town Mason. You are in universe [?].
You have the ability to communicate through secret channels with the Town Mason in the other universe here: [?]
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Town Vanilla Alpha/Omega:

You are a Town Vanilla. You are in universe [?].
While you don't have any special abilities, you have the power of your voice and your vote. And the second best flavour of icecream!
You will win when all of the members of the mafia in your universe are dead.

Drifter:

You are the Drifter. You do not belong to either universe, but float between them.
Every night you will choose a universe to belong to temporarily. For all purposes of votes, mafia kills, and cop checks, you will be affected by your choice. You're an affable person and will always appear to be "Town" when checked by a cop. You cannot be lynched Day 1.
You will win if you survive to the end of the game.

Game End:
When a universe concludes its game (either by all town or all mafia dying), those players will be removed, and the remaining players will continue until their game concludes.

Living Players:

NorwegianboyEE
TaskManager
Luka504
mrjawapa
ZeldaXD
Crybaby
peace
ShadowsEdge
eleizibeth

Graveyard:

Andymakeer (Town Vanilla Alpha) - Lynched Day 1 [Link]
Anatoly (Town Faction Cop Alpha) - Killed Night 1 [Link]
Kira (Town Vanilla Omega) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
Kirby (Drifter) - Lynched Day 2 [Link]
mutantdevle (Town Mason Alpha) - Killed Night 2 [Link]
2B55B5G TNG (Town Universe Cop Omega) - Killed Night 2 [Link]

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 07:35:04

!lynch peace

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 07:39:15

Anatoly, read the OP. It may seem complicated but Onjit breaks the rules down really well.

Onjit

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 07:58:41

Right off the bat, we should probably discuss something rather important. Hoe many people should we vote for?

If we have multiple lynch candidates at the end of the day, we have a chance of killing two mafia members at once, and using the information of who died, we can figure out the universes other people are from.

The problem? The mafia find that out too. The mafia can only kill people from their own universe, so we don't want them to know who's from what universe. Today, there is a 75% chance that one mafia member won't kill anyone, since they'd be shooting in the dark. But that percentage of missing will decrease rapidly as more information becomes available to them.

I think it would be better to only have one lynch candidate *at the end of the day.* You're fine to vote for whomever, but once we've decided who we want to die, we should unvite everyone else.

Thoughts?

2b55b5g

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 07:59:36

**** I keep forgetting I can't edit my posts.

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 08:12:31

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I know I'm not mafia so I'm just trying to help genuinely now.

You know you aren't a mafia?
Huh.
That's rather strange. Why not just say "I'm not mafia"?

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 08:22:55

If I didn't believe it mattered I wouldn't have pointed it out.

"I know I'm not a mafia" sounds like you're feigning certainty to sound more convincing. You wrote that sentence instead of "I'm not mafia" and there's a reason you did that.

Your other sentences don't really help your case either. My alarm bells are ringing loudly.

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 08:30:05

Shadow you're not making things better for yourself, love.

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 09:50:37

Shadow, I'm not set on you being a mafia. If I was I would have voted for you by now.

But you're acting weird; And this has nothing to do with the previous game either. Even if this was your first game, I'd still find your posts suspicious because they simply are.

Your death isn't inevitable. The day has barely started and only four out of the 15 players got a chance to say something. People aren't just going to blindly follow me or norwegianboy and lynch you without thinking for themselves, and that's something you should know.

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 14:38:04

mutantdevle wrote:

Luka's reasons for suspecting Shadow are awful, lack substance, and are nothing more than clutching at straws. I'm also fairly certain that Norwegian didn't even have a reason for his vote.

Hey, those same stupid points got Shadow to talk, and at the end of the day, isn't that what mafia is truly about?

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 17:57:50

mutantdevle wrote:

So are you claiming that your points were intentionally bad to provoke a reaction?

Well uh, yes and no. Yes because I thought shadow was acting weird and that I should pressure him to see if he spills the beans, but also no because I genuinely thought I was being clever with my posts.

In hindsight, my points were dujmb.
But hey, as long as it works.
I'll write a bit more when I get home.

mutantdevle

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 19:37:37

All right, I'm home.
Okay so, the thing I wanted to talk about most was Shadow's overreaction, but Devin's post covered pretty much everything I wanted to say about that topic, so I'll move onto something else that rubbed be the wrong way.

This post:

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Understandable, but you guys do realize I was helpful to everyone even as Mafia, I might not have seemed like it after the game concluded, but all of you believed me because I was helpful to everyone. I know I'm not mafia so I'm just trying to help genuinely now.

This just... This sounds weirdly manipulative, doesn't it?
We haven't really talked about this post, but it seems pretty important to me.

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 20:23:29

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I have nothing to hide. If I just go silent, then that's just proving them right.

Dude, there were many different ways you could have handled the situation that didn't involve staying silent.

For example, if you had just said that my 'I know I am not mafia' arguments were petty and meant nothing, and stuck with that, you'd probably not only have not been suspected, but you could have probably spun it in a way that made me look scummy.

But you were flustered and blurted out a lot of suspcious ****, and the more you talk, the worse your situation gets.

!lynch ShadowsEdge

mutantdevle, 2b55b5g

Luka504 · 2019-09-21 23:29:00

Ugh, with so many long winded posts circling about, I've already gotten tired of this game.

Anyway, I won't be online much tomorrow, if at all. I'll try to read what's happening but I likely won't post anything.

My vote stays on Shadow.

peace

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 10:27:38

I don't think an Anatoly lynch will be beneficial for us at all. His universe claim was idiotic, but it doesn't really indicate that he's a mafia member.

Now that he's actually revealed his universe, he might actually be a good choice for the mafia to kill when he otherwise wouldn't have even been a consideration. If the omega mafia try to target anyone else, there's about a 50% chance they'll fail, so they just might take a 100% to kill, even if it is a weaker player.

Their goal is to have a majority in the town, so killing *anyone* is a step forward in that direction.

It also gets Anatoly out of our hair too so ayy.

Norwee

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 11:44:57

Look Anatoly, I am not voting for you. Shadow is far more suspicious than you are, and I honestly think anyone who voted for someone other than shadow should reconsider their choice.

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 11:53:53

Okay I'm starting to reconsider voting for Anatoly

Norwee

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 12:05:33

Gonna be honest, I see this chimp-out as more of a town-lean than anything else, but god is it annoying.

Iirc the last time he had a meltdown he was a townie, and I don't view Anatoly as clever enough to be able to fake it if he was a mafia.

rat

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 13:59:04

mutantdevle wrote:

Finally, there is more information to be gained from lynching Andy than what's initially obvious so if you can't see that for yourself then you're just gonna have to trust me on it.

Elaborate. What kind of information will we gain if Andy flips town and what will we gain if he flips mafia?
I can't just take your word on it without further consideration. For all I know, you could be a mafia member yourself.

rat

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 16:41:54

I demand a reason.

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 16:43:57

Luka504 wrote:

Elaborate. What kind of information will we gain if Andy flips town and what will we gain if he flips mafia?
I can't just take your word on it without further consideration. For all I know, you could be a mafia member yourself.

I will not change my vote until this question is answered.
Kira and Devlin are really rubbing me the wrong way rn.

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 16:55:19

Jawapa while you're here, mind sharing your thoughts on the lynch candidates, who we should vote for and why?

Your only posts so far are just bashing peace and Anatoly, and nothing particularly helpful.

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 17:13:09

What kind of **** logic is that Kira? You can't setiously suggest that I should trust your judgement if your argument for why we should lynch someone is "why shouldn't we lynch them?"

The burden of proof, or rather, the burden of explanation lies within the person who claims. Do not try to spin that burden back to me, it won't work. Explain.

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 18:19:56

!unvote

Fine. Besides, since we're better off having only one lynch candidate by the end of the day, and considering the general consensus that shadow shouldn't be lynched today, I'm best off invoting for now.

Honestly, if Andy flips mafia then I'd argue that Kira would still be suspicious for starting his wagon so suddenly. Throwing your teammates under the bus to make sure you remain unsuspected is a viable strategy, and Kira just might be employing it.

mutantdevle

Luka504 · 2019-09-22 21:09:22

All right, so, we have like what, three hours left? Maybe two?

Andy is almost certainly going to get lynched today, so everyone who voted for someone else, unvote now. We do not want the mafia to get any information that could make their job easier.

In regards to the Andy lynch; ehh go for it. His attempts at making a tie are definitely suspicious and weird, but frankly, I don't think he's a mafia member.
Tbf I only really want him dead because his flip is directly tied to Kira and indirectly to Devlin. Whatever Andy's role is, it's going to dictate how we approach day 2.

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