Mafia 27: PurgatorEE [GAME OVER!]

Minimania · 2019-07-26 23:43:56

If you aren't going to come up with anything, then I'll dismiss you for now.

Minimania · 2019-07-26 23:52:03

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Reverse psychology of sorts?

From someone on your town list. Didn't realize thinking Onjit is Mafia automatically made me and Mutant mafia members

Minimania · 2019-07-26 23:54:15

and Zelda (forgot about him again, woops)

Minimania · 2019-07-27 00:01:46

a) Not like I asked you to explain yourself since last page or anything
b) Pretty sure jawapa was online both times he was at L-1. He was very clearly trying to accomplish something by not hammering on himself.

Minimania · 2019-07-27 00:45:22

Processor wrote:

Such as, um, say...
luring someone (say... Onjit) to hammer on him... so he can frame them as his teammate?

I never ruled this out as a possibility, in fact I said this may have been possible in an earlier post

Processor wrote:

Something worth noting: Crybaby and mutant have become super nervous now that I have put them on my sus list.

I'm not nervous. I'm a little peeved because of this:

Processor wrote:

I have not explained why I think you and Crybaby are sus yet.

Processor wrote:

Argument 1: Pretending Crybaby does not want to go to Heaven

If only you read the invisible text in this post several pages back, you'd know I want nothing to do with heaven, and me "volunteering for it" is me trying to lure Mafia members into trying to vote me in. I know Mutant read this because he quoted my post and didn't include the hidden text.

Processor wrote:

Argument 2: Mutant pushed for a Jawapa town vote, out of the blue, without explaining why.

So did Norboy a day prior, and yet you think Norboy is town.

Processor wrote:

He refuses to explain why twice, even when I explicitly asked twice

Hoooo boy you sure are on a roll

Processor wrote:

Jawapa could have voted himself into heaven as well.

So why do you suppose he didn't? A theory brought up multiple times by different people is that he's going for reverse psychology.

Processor wrote:

Jawapa put Onjit in his "Mafia-lean" list, your statement is plain wrong

Ah yes, his sus list is full of traps! Who would have thought a Mafia goon would fill his sus list with traps?

Minimania · 2019-07-27 00:51:28

That last point is for both you and mutant

Minimania · 2019-07-27 01:11:57

Processor wrote:

"Enlighten me on what [jawapa] has accomplished [by letting scum onjit vote on him]?"

either
a) Making Onjit seem suspicious so more people will vote on him, or
b) Making the Town want to think that he wanted to make Onjit seem suspicious to help clear Onjit's name in the case that he is Mafia

Processor wrote:

Your link is broken.

Page 9

Processor wrote:

Which is a very risky move, given that mrjawapa could have just hammered on himself.

And he didn't, so I'm not so inclined to believe you on this one.

Processor wrote:

If Jawapa wanted to set traps in his read list, he would put Town in his Mafia-tell list.

He has already fulfilled this with Trytu. It could've been possible that he'd have one Mafia and one Townie in the Mafia section

Processor wrote:

The sentence alone is not the argument I was making. You have to read the full paragraph.

I know about everything you've said against Mutantdevle. I can't defend him on everything, you've had some correct arguments; he didn't respond to you when he brought up Jawapa as a candidate. However, I will still point out that Norwegianboy, too, pointed out Jawapa as a potential candidate the night prior, and he wasn't asked why at all. That is still something significant that is worth pointing out.

Processor wrote:

At the time of writing, nobody suspected Jawapa and nobody knew he would make it to heaven.

So you mean to tell me that he was being 100% honest with us the entire time, until he thought he could make it into heaven?

Minimania · 2019-07-27 01:44:11

Processor wrote:

Can you explain why you think a) or b) is more likely?

I'm suspicious of Onjit and I have been for a while. He's used Mutant, Kira, and myself as a crutch, meanwhile he hasn't actually contributed much on his own. During the last heaven phase, he voted for me early on in the night, even though I am opposed to going to heaven. He removed his vote after the chance to hammer onto Jawapa the first time he was L-1 was lost, giving me the feeling that he wanted to hammer but he was just too late/couldn't have predicted that I'd remove my vote. He has also been following the bandwagon on multiple votes, including the one for Jawapa, even saying "sure let's do this" or whatever he said to that effect.

Processor wrote:

Can you elaborate on this? I don't understand what you're trying to say...

He very easily could have hammered onto his own vote. Why didn't he? Could he have been trying to make one last person seem suspicious? Well duh, that's the smart thing to do. That's a common sense decision, and any spectator could easily figure this out. But, what if he had a Mafia Onjit hammer knowing that we would come to the conclusion I just mentioned? It would be his only way of trying to help Onjit clear his name (as he has already been suspicious for a while). Now that there are 3 Mafia members left in the game, with only one Mafia member in heaven, the Mafia can't afford to make mistakes, otherwise they'll have to hope that both the remaining members after Onjit is lynched (if he is mafia) make it into heaven, and that's completely unpredictable. His post saying "thanks fam" and Onjit's follow up post could be them both "doubling down" on this reverse psychology.

Processor wrote:

Why do you think it's more likely that he'd put one mafia and one townie in the mafia section?

Because, as you said, he would likely put only town members in his Mafia section, or at least, that's probably what he would want you to think if he ever died. We already lynched Trytu, and we know that he's a townie. Putting Onjit in his suspicious list would a) ensure that Onjit had some layer of protection upon Jawapa's death, and b) distance Onjit from Jawapa at the same time.

Processor wrote:

c) I asked mutantdevle why and he couldn't/didn't answer me (which is the point)

I've just said that I can't defend this, this is up to Mutantdevle. I have my own questions for Mutant after I'm done talking to you

Processor wrote:

Question to you: Why is it worth pointing out?

You gave me the impression that "he brought up Jawapa out of the blue like nothing" was something to be suspicious of, in addition to "He couldn't provide a reason for it", in which case, it's interesting to me that Norboy is town to you rather than simply being neutral.

Processor wrote:

What do you mean?

Jawapa as a Mafia member should know that he will not last the entire game. The win condition of the Mafia team is to get a majority of their members into heaven, meaning they are required to take risks. Should those risks not pay off, such as, in the case Jawapa is lynched and flips Mafia, he should have planned ahead, and either a) said something that made it seem like he was tied to somebody, or b) set traps in his sus list, to forcefully tie others to him while also protecting others (i.e. placing one town and one mafia member in his Mafia list to spur confusion)

Processor, Slabdrill

Minimania · 2019-07-27 20:37:03

@Devlin: Why didn't you at any point vote for Jawapa?

Minimania · 2019-07-27 20:45:27

I don't think asking 2B questions about what he thinks about others is "backing him". It seems more like putting a little pressure on 2B if you ask me, in which case I don't see a reason to suspect 2B for this.

Minimania · 2019-07-27 20:46:58

@Norwegianboy Would you explain to me what made you bring up Jawapa the night before Mutant did?

Minimania · 2019-07-28 04:20:45

Processor wrote:

Crybaby wrote:
Page 9
My mafia thread has 6 pages only
https://i.imgur.com/BVHE6DX.png
?

I'll go find it. In the meantime, I already explained before that the reason I didn't vote for Zoey is because I was asleep and did not have a chance to

Minimania · 2019-07-28 04:23:16

Processor

Minimania · 2019-07-28 05:05:32

Very true, and I fell asleep right after rip

Minimania · 2019-07-28 13:38:14

As suspicious of you as I am/have been in this game, Onjit, I do feel like your posts today are sincere. You're still at the bottom of my list at the moment, but depending on your reads list and what conclusions you have on others, that might be able to change.
Can someone unvote for Onjit? Leaving him on L-1 is a really dangerous thing to do

Minimania · 2019-07-28 14:39:08

mutantdevle wrote:

Did anyone else here also notice the invisible text? I find it unlikely that I'd be the only one.

I have no way to answer this. I wouldnt know. I wouldnt like to think you're the only one, but you're the only one that I can confirm have seen it

mutantdevle

Minimania · 2019-07-28 18:32:13

how much time is left?

Minimania · 2019-07-28 22:12:17

For the record Processor, I havent actually voted for Onjit and in fact have asked someone else to remove their vote from Onjit so they wouldnt get hammered. In addition, even thought it's just a coincidence, the person who removed their vote was ZeldaXD, yet another person you suspect. My vote for Onjit strictly relies on the post that they promised us. I still feel suspicious towards Onjit, sort of have the whole game, but I am not at all above reasoning and logic, and should Onjit finally deliver on his promise, my opinions on him may be changed. However, seeing time run out while he isnt typing a post, and instead spends it watching videos, doesnt really help

Minimania · 2019-07-29 12:54:57

mutantdevle wrote:

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
Eh ok. Still confused but I guess that's fine.
Just watch this video:
https://youtu.be/z9TRMQwMNnY

This is why I said he was just watching videos in my last post.

Onjit, you better post your reads list. I've been waiting for a while and it is the single thing keeping me from voting for you

mutantdevle

Minimania · 2019-07-29 12:59:40

wait nevermind, I thought that was Onjit's post

what the hell I guess I was really tired

Minimania · 2019-07-29 19:15:15

My thoughts: He was trying to martyr himself so that when he flips town, it would reveal information about his voters.

Minimania · 2019-07-29 22:57:49

Wait wait wait wait wait why Zelda and why Norboy?

Processor I thought you were really suspicious of Zelda, why did that suddenly change after Onjit flipped?

AllenCaspe9510

Minimania · 2019-07-29 23:07:10

Wait Processor didn't suggest Zelda

Processor

Minimania · 2019-07-30 00:01:18

Kira wrote:

all my actions proves that I'm town. Those who disagree with me are either mafia or dumb

That's a rather bold statement

Minimania · 2019-07-31 00:04:31

Sorry, I must have missed that particular post.

You are my primary option as of right now, Processor.

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