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Mafia 25

Welcome to Mafia 25! There’s no plot or theme (Random flavor though? Why not?), just get playing.
Fair warning if you didn’t get it earlier; this is a bastard setup.
If you need me to see your day action quickly, DM me (slabdrill#7381) on discord. You will get a response more quickly than a forum PM. Please use the provided PMs for night actions though.

All normal forum rules apply, though as editing is disabled feel free to doublepost if needed.
You may not post in #FFB7C2. All other colors are allowed.
No talking about the game outside of the thread, quicktopics received from the game, and private DMs with me.
Dead players will not receive setup info. There is a private deadchat though.
Days will last 72 hours, and nights 24. Extensions (or shortenings) will be given as I see necessary.
After a majority is reached, you may still post until I lock the thread. No day actions can be used, and the person who is lynched is not allowed to post. If you’re not sure if you’re lynched or not, assume you are. Twilight will last until 24 hours after the day’s start.
All people have the ability to visit someone in the night, if you are not using another night action.
If your role PM has information below the win conditions, it is not part of the rolecard.
There’s no preset format for votes or commands. Write it how you think I’ll understand. Note that this means I’ll be treating fake votes like real ones. You can also be as weirdly conditional about it as you want as long as it makes sense to me (I’ll tell you if I don’t understand) (you should mainly use this as a method to do things if you’re inactive or want something specifically timed).
I make mistakes sometimes! But if you’re wondering about something, it’s probably a role ability.
Night 0 doesn’t count as a night for role abilities unless otherwise specified.
The win system is based off points. Some points come from alignment (though some roles may have values changed), while some come from the actual role. Format is [points] task. x in the points means it can be counted multiple times. Grey elements may not be shown with a rolecard reveal, depending on the situation. Points will be ranked (highest points wins) at the end, so do your best to sabotage everyone that isn’t you.
No copypasting (or sending a screenshot with, etc) something that was sent privately via quicktopic or PM.
During and after Day 3, a majority vote for ending the game will make it happen. The game will also end if only one player is left alive, or if there is a complete stalemate.
If you know of any other common mafia rules (eg. no provable randomness, no gamethrowing), please follow them. I’m too lazy to figure out if I forgot anything important. If you're not sure, ask me.

N2 ends 24 hours from the time this post was edited.

Players:
1. Crybaby
2. Onjit
3. NorwegianboyEE
4. TaskManager
5. peace
6. Mutantdevle
7. Railmat
8. 2B55B5G TNG
9. mrjawapa
10. Kirby
11. Lukas504
12. ASDruska
13. LORD MASTER KING
14. MWStudios
15. AllenCaspe9510
16. ILikeTofuuJoe
17. EEJoranasc
18. Schlog
19. Raprap

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Luka504

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Re: Mafia 25

Hey guys are we gonna lunch peace or what

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Luka504

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Re: Mafia 25

Wait what?
They aren't allowed to vote at all? Can't the town just cheat by testing who *is* capable of voting?
If so, time to prove my innocence:
!Lynch kira

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Or !Lynch Kira if you're a picky host, slab.

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Re: Mafia 25

Alright. Time to game the system!
!Lynch LORD MASTER KING

Aha! Caught you, Mr mafia!
Alright ladies it's tike.for me to roleclaim. I am the communications expert, and my skill is being able to view the mafia chat without being a member of the mafia.

Norwegianboy fits the criteria for being a mafia member. Let me get on PC and ill elaborate further
!lynch norwegianboy

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Re: Mafia 25

All right, time to start from the beginning. As stated before, I am the Communications Expert. I'm allowed to visit the mafia chat freely despite being a member of the town. I'm also allowed to post in the mafia chat, and even impersonate other people there if I chose to. So far, I haven't done either.

The mafia chat seems to have been open even before the game started, and it's open even now, during the day. There are three mafia members: Mr. X, Quintet, and dot. Slabdrill has advised all three of them to not use their real usernames in the mafia chat, but rather to use fake names to communicate, because 'someone could be watching them.'
And that someone, is me.

From the start of the game, I've been trying to piece together through writing style and personality who these fake aliases actually are, but I only found out who one of them is today. Norwegianboy is Mr. X. I'll elaborate more on what's been talked about in the mafia chat, but for now I want to focus on Norwegianboy.

Slabdrill's new rule about mafia not being able to vote is most likely bogus. It's likely that someone with a power role activated their day ability and broadcasted a public announcement for all to read. Obviously, upon seeing this new rule, Mr. X panicked, not being sure if the rule was legitamate or not.

So, he said the following in the mafia chat:

I'm going to take a huge gamble and treat it like it's the second alternative [A bluff]. It's risky, but if it's successful and Quintet gives me the fake role card in addition, that will give us a huge advantage and make the town trust me completely.

This was posted at the exact same time NorwegianBoy made this post:

Alright. Time to game the system!
!Lynch LORD MASTER KING

And that's when it was confirmed to me that Norway Boy is one of the mafia members. He doesn't have to bite the dust just yet, as there are some other things I wish to share with the town and I want to do it asap.

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Re: Mafia 25

Yeah, you wouldn't have much to say after an accusation like that, do you?
You got really unlucky, as I was online just in time to spot you.

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Re: Mafia 25

All right, I want to share more information that I have.

In regards to my role, I have more powers than just being able to view the mafia chat. For one, I can send anonymous messages to as many people as I wish. This is easily provable, so if you want me to, I could do that today.
My final power is something I'll keep to myself, for now at least. It could help me bait out the mafia sometime in the future.

I'd also like to make a request: If there are any protection roles, please protect me during the night. By doing aaying what I said I've definitely become the mafia's primary target.

In regards to the mafia chat, there are four people who I'm very confident are not the mafia. They might be an evil neutral role (like a serial killer), but not the mafia.
Those three are:
a) Peace
Nobody in the mafia chat writes in the same way that peace writes, so it's safe to assume that peace isn't one of them.

b) TaskManager and Mutantdevle
In the mafia chat, before the game even started, it was discussed how these two should be the first people to be killed during the night. Might be a fake-out to trick lurking spies, but I doubt it.

c) ILikeTofuJoe
One of the mafia members (dot) said that as part of his win condition, ILikeTofuJoe has to survive until the end of the game.

I also know what mafia roles there are. From what I know, there are only three mafia members. I've copied these from the mafia chat directly, because no way in hell am I paraphrasing all of this.

Mr X is a Time Manipulator

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Once per game, you may change the length of the next night to a length between 18h and 72h, provided the new end fits with my schedule.
Once per game, you may change the length of the next twilight to a length between 0h and 48h, after which it’ll end when I’m awake and check the thread.
Once per game, you may change the length of the next day to a length between 36h and 144h, provided the new end fits with my schedule.

Every night, you may perform one of the following actions:
Mafia Kill - If no one else is performing the Mafia Kill, and you are aligned with the Mafia, you may kill a target.
Repeat - Your target will have the same thing that happened to them last night happen to them this night. If they used a role ability, they will use it again ignoring what selections they made tonight, unless that ability ran out of shots. Your target will be given the message:

You feel as if tonight was exactly the same as last night, like everything that happened then happened again.

Time Warp - Your target will be warped into the future. They will be effectively dead until the next night. You may not use this ability on yourself. There will be a public message:

<name> didn’t show up to the council today, and weren’t found at their house either; however, they don’t seem dead.

You are aligned with the Mafia.
[35] Alive at the end
[-20x] Non-mafia-aligned person at the end
[25x] Mafia-aligned person at the end
[20] The chatroom supplier is alive at the end and you were invited to the Neighborhood
[25] Both the chatroom supplier and you’re alive at the end

You have a secret chat with the other members of the mafia, [REDACTED] and [REDACTED]. You can find the link here.

dot hasn't stated the name of his role.

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- At the end of every night, I get random information saying that "X visited Y", with this information always being accurate

Abilities:
- Mafia kill
- I can choose players X and Y, such that ANY actions that happen to one of them happen to both, excluding mafia kill.
- I can choose players X and Y, such that actions done to them are swapped (players that target X now target Y and vice versa).

And finally, this ability seems like a huge troll
- NO ONE will receive ANY information on what happened to their target that night. If they were killed that night, the death message doesn't show until the END of the day

Also, one of my objectives is to keep ILikeTofuuJoe alive.

Quintet is the Butcher

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Every night, you may use only one of the following abilities:
Arm - If you become the target of a night kill after using this ability, the player that targeted you will die instead. If you arm yourself once, you will stay armed until you are targeted for a nightkill.
Defend - You can visit someone during the night. They will not know that you visited them, even if they had a role. If you aren't armed, you will die instead of that player. If you are already armed, any person who targets that player for a nightkill will die instead. In addition, while visiting somebody, you cannot be killed during the night. You will not know the identity of anyone else who visits that player.
Meat Double - If the town votes to lynch you after using this ability, you can instead choose to replace your body with a double. If you do, you will abandon the town, and become aligned with the Mafia, and be given the following abilities, in replacement to your old ones:

Mafia Kill - If no one else is performing the Mafia Kill, and you are aligned with the Mafia, you may kill your target.
Ensnare - If you are visited tonight by someone who is a member of the Town, that visitor will die.

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Re: Mafia 25

Oh, I missed two people in my "likely not mafia" list.

d) EEJoranasc
In the mafia chat, Joranasc was among TaskManager and MutantDevle on the list of 'people who should be killed first'. I forgot to mention him.

e) Jawapa
The mafia said that Jawapa is likely to be inactive in the game, so he shouldn't be one of their first targets.

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Luka504

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Re: Mafia 25

@Luka, based on what the mafia have been saying, is it likely that railmat could be a mafia member? He does also have a fairly distinct typing pattern.

Quintet has pretty good grammar and sspelling, so Railmat isn't him.
Though Railmat could be dot. dot has barely stated anything in the mafia chat, but dot does have a pretty finnicky way of speaking.

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Re: Mafia 25

Dude, how could I have possibly fabricated *everything* I've just said?

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Re: Mafia 25

I changed my mind can we lynch Kira instead

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Re: Mafia 25

I wish to talk about Quintet. I made a mistake with Quintet. He isn't the Butcher, but rather, a Watcher.

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Watcher
Oops, I forgot the flavor. Oh well, I guess you're just not getting any.

Every night, including Night 0, you may pick a target to add to your watching list. People on your watching list will have what happened to them, day and night, described to you. You will not see who did something, but you will see the action. You will also see who the target visited in the night, as well as anyone else who visited the same target (but not the person you selected themselves, and not the actions those people did). The full log of actions will be seen publicly along with their rolecard. You will not see the actions of someone on the night you added them to the list.

You are always aware of who visited you in a night. If you perform the Mafia Kill, you will also roleblock your target, and may use conditionals to target a visitor. (You do not know what they’re visiting for.)

Every night, you may use one of the following abilities:
Mafia Kill - If no one else is performing the Mafia Kill, and you are aligned with the Mafia, you may kill your target.
Hide Log - The person that you add to your watching list today will not have their log be displayed with their rolecard.
Extra Watch - Watch someone’s house tonight, seeing who visited them and what they did.
Framing - Write a fake rolecard for someone you’ve hid the log of. I will make that rolecard the result of any investigations done to them until they fix it, including on death. After the next night, unless they don’t need it, the target will be given the following message:

At some point, someone’s systematically tampered with you and your stuff. If you stay at home, you can fix it.

You have been given a fake rolecard. Investigative actions and death will only reveal the fake rolecard, instead of the real one. You may spend a night not performing any other night actions to fix it, as well as see what the fake rolecard was.

If you target someone twice, they will get the message immediately with the option to reflexively deal with it instead of the action they chose. In this case, you must send me the action before the Night begins (or otherwise 24 hours before the end of the Night). You will not receive any information from the targetted person. If the target dies on the night you use this ability, both rolecards will be seen. (The effect is instant for any other kind of investigation.)

The Butcher role is a fake rolecard they discussed giving to someone else to make them think a townie is a member of the mafia, so I mistakenly copied that thinking that was Quintet's role.

In regards to who Quintet may be, I've been anylizing his words and personality, and this is what I've compiled
For one thing, he is definitely somewhat experienced with the game. He's pushy of killing Devlin first, which is a sign that he knows how experienced Devlin is at this game. He is clever enough to think of an entire role (Butcher). Quintet has also stated that he's going to try to be inactive in the game, and that he'll try to deceive people into thinking he's too busy for the mafia game.

Out of everyone here, the people who I'm pretty confident aren't Quintet are:
Luka504 (duh)
TaskManager (One of the first targets)
MutantDevle (One of the first targets)
peace (Spelling is way different in comparison to other mafia members)
ILikeTofuJoe (Has to stay alive until the end of the game for one of the mafia members to win)
EEJoranasc (One of the first targets)
NorwegianBoy (he's Mr. X)
RailMat (he's dot)

These are the people left over:
Crybaby
2B55B5G
mrjawapa
Kirby
ASDruska
LORD MASTER KING
MWStudios
AllenCaspe9510
Schlog
Raprap

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Re: Mafia 25

I'm definitely not mistaken about this though. Those three are the only people they discussed attacking during the night.

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Re: Mafia 25

Is there anything else? You said that you could read the Mafia chat, right? Well, now that you announced it, they probably won't talk there anymore. Doesn't this mean they can't communicate anymore?

Also, !lynch Norwegianboy

No, they've ceased talking altogether for now. However, Slabdrill gave the mafia a new power.
During the night, one of the mafia members can sacrifice their night action to create a new mafia chat without me being in it.
So, starting from tonight, they'll be able to talk normally again. I wasn't aware they could do this until Slab said it in the mafia chat.

MODMERGE:

Actually, no, they can only use this new mafia chat on night 2. My bad. I really should read what I post.

MODMERGE 2:

Idk who are the other 2 mafia mafia members.

ik weet niet wie de andere 2 mafia leden zijn.

How does this prove that you aren't one of the mafia members?

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Re: Mafia 25

I'm not exactly sure how to respond to that, since from your perspective, you're right, this could all be an elaborate lie.

If you wish, you can lynch me on day 1 instead. That way, you'll know that everything I said is 100% legitamate.

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Re: Mafia 25

I won't have access to the mafia chat soon, so I've mostly outllived my use.

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Re: Mafia 25

That's extremely unlikely, Crybaby.

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Re: Mafia 25

No Kira, it is beneficial to the town. If people doubt me, there is one way people can be absolutely sure that I'm being honest.
Investigation won't work, because the mafia has a framing ability.

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Re: Mafia 25

Lynching day 1 is often a beneficial strategy, regardless of how cruel or random you might perceive it to be.
In this situation, where the validity of my claims can only be proven or disproven by my death, it's better for the town to know for sure what they should/shouldn't do during the following night.

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Re: Mafia 25

Current votecount:
[1] LORD MASTER KING: NorwegianBoy
[1] Crybaby: Onjit
[1] Onjit: Schlog
[4] NorwegianBoyEE: Luka504, RailMat, Crybaby, LORD MASTER KING

10 votes for majority.
Day ends in 44 hours.

(Might be wrong somewhere, sorry if it is)

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Re: Mafia 25

Hey NorwayBoy I think you should claim your role, or, y'know, do anything at all?
If you truly are innocent, then you're in the worst possible situation rn, and I want to hear more from you.

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Re: Mafia 25

Share what?

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Re: Mafia 25

Guys stop talking weve reached a majority ffs

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Re: Mafia 25

Oh.
Okay then

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Re: Mafia 25

And with that, I've proven I'm a guaranteed townie.
Oh, Onjit is too BTW. He's proven to me that through his night action.
Anyway, I've had a very interesting conversation in the mafia chat during the night, and it's likely going to become the focal point of today's conversation.

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