Mafia 24 [Crybaby wins]

RailMat · 2019-05-06 19:40:31

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The winner:
11. Crybaby Role: Serial killer.

Graveyard:
Anatoly - replaced per request. Role ???
GreenyMix - replaced for being inactive. Role???
TaskManager - Shot N1. Role: vigilante
Luka504 - replaced per request. Role ???
NorwegianboyEE: Shot N2. Role: seer
ILikeTofuuJoe: Modkilled D3. Role: doctor
peace: Lynched D3. Role: townie
Zumza: shot N3. Role: townie
mutantdevle: killed N3. Role: classic cop
Different55: lynched D4. Role: role cop
Onjit: shot N4. Role: townie
mrjawapa: Lynched D5. Role: townie
2B55B5G TNG: Killed N5 Role: goon
Slabdrill: Lynched D6. Role: roleblocker
Kirby: killed N6. Role: townie

Known rolecards:

▼Vigilante

▼Seer

▼Doctor

▼Townie

▼classic cop

▼Role cop

▼Goon

▼Serial killer

▼Roleblocker

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2019-05-06 23:53:41

I'm personally not sure if we should of shouldn't do a day one. I think there were interesting arguments in favor of day 1 lynching in the previous game, so I'll look over them when I have some more time for it.
But, if we are going to lynch day 1, then I'd recommend we go with either peace or Anatoly, since I genuinely doubt they're going to contribute to the town in any meaningful way.
Even if they flip town when they die, it wouldn't be much of a loss for the rest of us.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 12:42:42

Tbh I'd rather not lynch Devlin (not yet at least) mostly because I consider him to be a pretty valuable player to us. (provided he's a townie)
He's pretty experienced in this game and he puts a lot of effort and thought into everything he writes.
That being said, there's still a chance he's a mafia member, and due to him being a very convincing liar when he needs to be, I'll take everything he says with the biggest grain of salt I have. Until I'm sure he's innocent, that is.
However, if he *is* town, I want him to stay.
I'd still recommend going with peace or Anatoly for a first lynch, though.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 12:43:06

* If we don't have any better candidates.
I forgot you can't edit posts.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 13:15:21

You're not really helping yourself, anatoly. If you're a townie, then you are even less likely to make a contribution to the town, therefore we would lose even less if you turn out to be telling the truth.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 16:28:20

RailMat wrote:

Prodded GreenyMix and ILikeTofuuJoe for inactivity

...
Are there...
Replacements?
Or did we just lose two players, just like that?

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 19:25:09

!Lynch Anatoly
Hurray for bandwagoning.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 19:26:31

Okay but seriously Anatoly, insulting people and saying their personal feelings are getting in the way isn't helping you convince anyone.

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 19:27:59

Jesus **** Christ dude.

TaskManager

Luka504 · 2019-05-07 20:36:49

That was fun wew.
Well, since we finally have someone reasonable, I suppose I'll just
!unvote
Anyway, peace is my primary pick for the lynch, unless something springs up to indicate we have a better option.

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 15:31:20

Onjit wrote:

Also the fact that there was only one kill means that either:
a) the mafia/SK decided not to kill (or forgot)
b) the mafia was blocked (not SK, since they are immune to blocks)
c) the doctor protected a victim
I think that's all the possibilities, let me know if i missed any

I suppose it's also possible that there isn't any serial killer at all. I'm not sure if it was ever specified that a serial killer had to be in the game.

Norwee, 2b55b5g, mutantdevle, Slabdrill

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 15:32:27

Though the chances are slim. Why would Matt introduce a faction and then not even use it?

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 15:35:29

Peace, no. Not only am I positive that suicide is impossible to do in this game, but even if there was, why would taskmanager do it? It puts the town at a disadvantage that he's gone.

2b55b5g, TaskManager, RailMat

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 17:37:18

Tbh, I'm kind of sceptical that the mafia decided to attack peace, and I doubt even more that the doctor would protect him of all people. It seems like a lie he made to make himself seem like town.

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 17:38:56

I mean, realistically speaking, the mafia/sk would attack the more experienced and vocal people like Devlin, as they're the ones most likely to catch them in a lie.

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 19:54:32

What are you basing those deductions off of?

Norwee, 2b55b5g

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 21:26:13

Okay, I don't know how much time we have, but I'm just gonna
!lynch peace
I still think that he's the best candidate for the lynch, and even if he flips town, it wouldn't be much of a loss.

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 21:47:21

Diff do you genuinely perceive Anatoly and Peace as "most likely town"?

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 22:15:31

Kirby wrote:

i mean ngl i would've expected peace to say something to indicate he's not town by now so i think we should hold off, and anatoly isn't playing anymore and i don't really wanna hold zumza to it since anatoly's breakdown seemed to be completely unrelated to the game

I consider peace claiming to have been protected during the night as a sign that he might be dishonest. I'm not sure if he'a claiming he got attacked and healed, or just that he got healed, but I have a hard time believing that peace got attacked and protected on n1. There are many, many better options for the doctor/mafia/sk to choose for n1.
I agree that zumza shouldn't be held accountable for something Anatoly did, but Anatoly's reaction can be interpreted in a number of ways, and I wouldn't call him 'most likely town'

Luka504 · 2019-05-10 23:06:08

Devlin, may I ask what your criteria for determining which people are trustworthy? Looking at the people you don't consider lynch candidates, I'm starting to see a pattern: Most of them barely contribute, or even post for that matter.
Kirby has four posts, three of which are ****, yet he's earned your trust?
It's suspicious how the people you consider lynch candidates are fairly active and at least trying to contribute.

Onjit, 2b55b5g, Slabdrill

Luka504 · 2019-05-11 07:06:18

Different55 wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Diff do you genuinely perceive Anatoly and Peace as "most likely town"?
Do you have any reason to actually suspect they're maf or are you just going after them because you're unlikely to meet opposition, netting you a free townie lynch?

Admittedly, yeah, when I suggested that we lynch one of them, I didn't expect much opposition at all. Peace and Anatoly have the lowest possible chance of everybody in the game to contribute to the town in a meaningful way (or they might make things worse by arguing about irrelevant ****), so I thought that if we are going to lynch someone, they should be high on the list.
As I've said before, even if they turn out to be town, it isn't much of a loss.
And besides, we lucked out last night - only one killing happened instead of the expected two. What happened to result in that is still unknown, but there's good odds that two people will die tonight, putting us at even more of a disadvantage. We have to start doing something sooner or later, and I'd personally pick sooner.
Anyway, I've already mentioned why I doubt peace and Anatoly, but I suppose it bears repeating:
Anatoly's meltdown can be interpreted in a number of ways, and while I do agree that this could have just been normal Anatoly behaviour, I'm very hesitant to call him 'most likely town' like you have. In fact, I think his overreaction could be a sign of him being scum.
Peace's doctor claim is suspicious, and I genuinely feel that he's only saying it just to paint a better picture if himself for the town. The doctor had no reason to pick peace of all people to defend, especially not on n1. Not only would the doctor probably not care if peace died, but even if they did, the odds that he'd be attacked by the mafia/sk is very slim. Peace is very likely to contribute almost nothing to the conversation, and the mafia/sk would leave him be in lieu of better targets.

MODMERGE: Also also:
One of my goals by doubting them is to see how they'd react, and to spark a discussion, which we do need to do if we want to win. So far Peace's reaction didn't really reveal much, but it least we are talking about it.

MODMERGE 2: (ugh I hate how I can't edit posts, the formatting is all wrong.)

Zumza

Luka504 · 2019-05-11 07:23:01

Onjit wrote:

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:
Trying to lynch yourself is gamethrowing, in MafiaScum you would've already been modkiled for this.
what are you talking about?

I think about the **** where you said you were 100% mad and sk.

ILikeTofuuJoe, 2b55b5g, Onjit, Slabdrill

Luka504 · 2019-05-11 18:21:53

My PC is really wonky for some reason so I have to play exclusively on phone. Thisll get annoying for me quick. Sorry for bad formatting or weird wording.
@Devlin
Did you mean to say "quality over quantity"? I do agree that people should focus on making higher quality posts instead of a mountain of useless garble, but I don't feel like some of the people you trust (Kirby and slabdrill) have done enough to justify earning it.
Neither of them made any ground breaking discoveries to suggest their posts are any higher quality than yours or mine, and as established before, they dont have many posts either.
They lack in quality and quantity. It's a lot easier to get away with lies and deception when you post the barest minimum possible. That's why I think slab shouldn't be trusted so easily. Maybe you might think he isn't scum, but I don't think he's a townie just yet.
This is why I question the usefullness of your "people to lynch" list.
However, your reply to norwegianboy is really well done, and I'll have to reread some of the things he's said now that I'm thinking about it. I'm still not sure what to think of you - you could be town, you could be scum. I need more info before deciding.

@Diff
Yes you're right, peace doesn't have any less of a chance of being scum than anyone else, and that's the whole point. Peace is just as likely to be mafia as anyone else, with the added bonus that if we make an error, we'll only lose a low level player.
I wouldn't say I dislike peace - though I do understand why you believe I do. I did dislike him in the past, but I've grown to just ignore him and move on with my day (Heck, even in this game I instinctively dismiss anything he says, even when I shouldn't). I have more of a neutral opinion on him outside of the game now. However, that doesn't change the fact that he's not likely to help the town, and if we don't have better targets, he'll make a good substitute.
In fact, considering everything that transpired since my vote, I'll just:
!unlynch
Anyway, diff, even though we may disagree, I personally think of you as town for the time being.

Luka504 · 2019-05-11 18:42:15

Albeit, diff doesn't have a whole lot of posts either, but iirc he got replaced in, so it's a bit more understandable.

Luka504 · 2019-05-12 06:34:10

What. The. ****.
Why does all the fun stuff happen when I sleep?

OK, my thoughts: I'm not sure yet, but Devlin is so far suspicious to me. For most of the game, I felt like there was something off with Devlin's behaviour. Sure, he still had his rather prideful mindset of "I'm amazing at mafia" and junk, but I felt like it wasn't the same.
He seems a lot more aggressive, Imo. Especially when he posted a picture of Norwegianboy literally digging his own grave, stating "it's time for you to die"
I would understand if you were a cop and got a guilty result on him, but by your own admission, you haven't. So what's with you this game?
Oh, another post is on the way. I think I see a problem with some of your deductions, and it's making me more suspicious that you're stringing the town along on a leash.

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