[EEMAFIA] EE Mafia Game 2 - Night II

realmaster42 · 2018-09-19 20:06:50

Details: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=43842

Graveyard:
cooldude76 - Worker Smiley - Lynched Day I
Whirl - Hazmat - Killed Night I
RailMat - Angry Smiley - Lynched Day II

Players:
- Daneeko
- RailMat
- Slabdrill
- Zumza
- TaskManager
- Onjit
- Whirl
- MWstudios
- cooldude76
- mutantdevle
- ILikeTofuuJoe

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mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 12:24:55

TaskManager wrote:

Slabdrill wrote:
d1 lynches are good, right?
there were debates about it every damn time
honestly, lynching just for the sake of it cause "its good" is a dumb idea and can be easily pushed by scum when necessary

Day 1 lynches are ALWAYS good. I've since played a lot of mafia on mafiascum.net (Creature is there ) and you should ALWAYS lynch day 1 regardless of how uninformed you are. The only time you should ever be no lynching in a mafia game is if there is an even amount of players alive or you are informed enough to know that no lynching is a good thing (eg, the PRs will solve the game instead of the lynches).

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 12:27:08

Daneeko wrote:

i vote to lynch cooldude76, i suspect he's hazmat.
actually, definetly hazmat. heres why;
onjit said he's the cool smiley, i'm just the smiley...
onjit was the 6th player to join and he got the 6th role
i was the 1st player to join and i got the 1st role
that probably means every other role was given out the same way...
that also means...
- Whirl
- MWstudios
- cooldude76
are all part of the NCR!!
dun dun dun!!!!!!!!!

My role is not in the same position as when I joined so your theory is wrong. Instead, you have stupidly given away your own role. Unless, of course, you are scum who just tricked me into giving you information about my role.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 12:28:16

Onjit wrote:

i think we should ax the max so we have better odds

I'd like to elect that we begin this game by lynching the people who don't post. It will be better for us in the long run. Lurkers **** you over in the late game.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 12:29:20

Out of everyone in this list, I think cooldude76 is the least likely to be active.

Vote: cooldude76

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 12:30:10

!lynch cooldude76

Just in case realmaster wants exact formatting.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 17:17:25

Every time there is a lynch, there is a chance that scum will die.
If you don't lynch, no scum will die.

By not lynching, you are not increasing the chances that scum will die in the future.

You may argue that by not lynching we are not risking killing someone who has a role that MAY catch scum. However, if you calculate the odds that the person you want to lynch is a certain role and calculate that with the chances of their ability actually catching someone, then lynching will always be superior.

When you lynch, you always have a [X / total players] chances of catching mafia where X = the number of mafia alive. Say, for example, we don't want to lynch because there might be a cop. There is a [1 / total players] chance that they are a cop and a [X / (total players - 1)] chance they'll get a guilty result during the night. The fact that there are now 2 parts to the statistic to considers means that a lynch is better than a cop check. You'd also have to add on the probabilities to that cop check of the chances it could be prevented and the cop could be killed and then you multiply that across all the days the cop could live with the number of results they could get before death and it's still not worth it. Those statistics from the lynch outweigh the statistics that any action could possibly give us if we decide not to lynch.

There's also the argument that no lynching gives more power to the mafia. Every phase, there is a lynch and a night kill. The night kill will always kill town (theoretically). The lynch could kill either town or mafia (theoretically). If your not lynching, then you're just letting town be killed over and over again.

Besides, when you attempt to lynch, you get claims. In an open setup like this where every role is unique, whenever someone claims, we either get a confirmed town out of it or someone gets counterclaimed and you've narrowed the lynch down to 2 people.

In fact, now that I think about it, this setup is so stupid. All we have to do is all claim our roles and then we've narrowed down who the mafia are:

If anyone claims the same role as someone else, you lynch amongst those people.
If you claim and no one else claims to have that same role, then they are confirmed town.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 20:17:51

TaskManager wrote:

but we're not going on a blind random lynching streak hopefully, right?

We probably will because, y'know, lurkers.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 20:18:32

realmaster42 wrote:

Also all Mafia, I extremely recommend you to use the damn quick topic I sent you. It's there for a reason. If you don't use it, you're going to lose, no matter how hard you try.

Thank you for telling us that all of the mafia are mostly inactive and inexperienced.

TaskManager

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 21:45:30

Daneeko wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
but we're not going on a blind random lynching streak hopefully, right?
We probably will because, y'know, lurkers.
im voting cooldude76 mainly to possibly have a "I TOLD YOU SO" moment when i absolutely knew it

Lol, we're not voting them for that reason. We're voting them because it's unlikely they'll even post.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 21:46:05

TaskManager wrote:

i REALLY dont like this comment. it feels fake and feigned to me.

Agreed. We can lynch Railmat next.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-20 23:01:15

What exactly do you want to discuss?

mutantdevle · 2018-09-21 07:47:16

Actually in mafiascum.net there’s a twilight phase between the lynch and the night phase where players can talk so let’s rebel against the EE system!

mutantdevle · 2018-09-21 17:01:45

Zumza wrote:

MutantDevle

> Tempted to policy lynch Zumza for capitalising my name is such a way.

TaskManager, Slabdrill

mutantdevle · 2018-09-21 17:04:30

TaskManager wrote:

I have a strong feeling that multiple mafia members are behind this bandwagon

Luckily you don't need to suspect me for it since the mod semi-confirmed me as town by their "use the PT" comments.

If at any point in this game anyone doubts my alignment then I'd like to remind them that I'd have spammed the **** out of that PT basically telling whoever I was paired with what to do.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:33:59

Lol nah I'm not evil - nor am I a smiley so daneeko isn't lying.

taskmanager I'm going to let your **** vote slide because I'm fairly certain you are town. However, Zumza's vote is too readily optimistic for my liking. That said, I'd like a little more discussion and considering other options instead of just lynching zumza right now.

Zumza, why do you feel the need to lynch me when from your perspective there is only a 50% chance that daneeko's result means I'm evil?

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:36:10

Okay railmat you can **** off. That's 2 strikes you've done wrong this game.

!lynch railmat

I don't need more discussion now - 2 scummy things in an EE game is very incriminating in my opinion.

Also, i was about to post this then realised I probably shouldn't swear since this is EE forums and not mafiascum.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:37:21

realmaster42 wrote:

Also all Mafia, I extremely recommend you to use the damn quick topic I sent you. It's there for a reason. If you don't use it, you're going to lose, no matter how hard you try.

Also, just to reiterate, this 100% wouldn't have been said if I was on the scum team. Can y'all stop voting me now?

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:38:11

I mean, I can even back up the above statement by showing you how I play when aligned with the mafia from my games on mafiascum.net if you want.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:44:08

The way I see the votes on me:

Daneeko is voting me because they don't understand how their role works.
Taskmanager is voting me because of a simple fact of probability - but has seemingly forgotten that the mod soft cleared me by calling out the mafia team as not posting much.

These 2 are reasonable.

Zumza is just following what Daneeko said because they have put no thought into the night result whatsoever.
Railmat is opportunistically voting me despite taskmanger explaining the way the role works.

These 2 won't stand, least of all railmat's reason.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:45:00

RailMat wrote:

is that a maffia player? I hope so.

I mean, this is exactly what I'd expect someone to say who knows who everyone's alignment is but doesn't know how to fake that they don't.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:50:51

That wording is kinda bad, let me rephrase it:

Railmat's words there sounds like he already knows who the mafia are.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:51:38

Also MWstudios in past games it's stated that we are allowed to make multiple posts in a row due to the no editing rule of this game. Hummerz and different approved.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:52:42

Do you have any comments to make btw? It would be useful if you made some posts about your own opinion so that we can try to judge what alignment you are.

mutantdevle · 2018-09-22 20:54:32

Btw taskmanager, based on what you said, I now know your role.

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