[EEMAFIA] EE Mafia Game 2 - Night II

realmaster42 · 2018-09-19 20:06:50

Details: https://forums.everybodyedits.com/viewt … p?id=43842

Graveyard:
cooldude76 - Worker Smiley - Lynched Day I
Whirl - Hazmat - Killed Night I
RailMat - Angry Smiley - Lynched Day II

Players:
- Daneeko
- RailMat
- Slabdrill
- Zumza
- TaskManager
- Onjit
- Whirl
- MWstudios
- cooldude76
- mutantdevle
- ILikeTofuuJoe

▼Role List

TaskManager · 2018-09-19 22:07:24

hello world
lets see where this goes, i dont have much expectations with these players tbh
shouldnt the majority be 6 with 11 players? this value is usually independent of the roles

Zumza, mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2018-09-19 22:53:48

Slabdrill wrote:

d1 lynches are good, right?

there were debates about it every damn time
honestly, lynching just for the sake of it cause "its good" is a dumb idea and can be easily pushed by scum when necessary

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 05:49:50

Onjit wrote:

hello everyone i am the cool smiley and i think we should ax the max so we have better odds

are you **** because it's day 1 or is that an actual claim
oh wait who the hell claims d1

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 16:04:49

Daneeko wrote:

onjit was the 6th player to join and he got the 6th role
i was the 1st player to join and i got the 1st role

no thats not how it works

mutantdevle wrote:

Day 1 lynches are ALWAYS good. I've since played a lot of mafia on mafiascum.net (Creature is there ) and you should ALWAYS lynch day 1 regardless of how uninformed you are. The only time you should ever be no lynching in a mafia game is if there is an even amount of players alive or you are informed enough to know that no lynching is a good thing (eg, the PRs will solve the game instead of the lynches).

can you post a thorough explanation? how does it benefit us?
"i have played on mafiascum" card is good without a doubt but id like to see actually WHY is it useful, and other players i think would like to see it as well
p sure we could try pressuring weak/new players rather than hammering it straight away, aye?

RailMat wrote:

I claim a role

pls.

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 18:07:14

mutantdevle wrote:

Besides, when you attempt to lynch, you get claims. In an open setup like this where every role is unique, whenever someone claims, we either get a confirmed town out of it or someone gets counterclaimed and you've narrowed the lynch down to 2 people.

this was needless to mention. i kind of implied it in my previous post

mutantdevle wrote:

In fact, now that I think about it, this setup is so stupid. All we have to do is all claim our roles and then we've narrowed down who the mafia are:
If anyone claims the same role as someone else, you lynch amongst those people.
If you claim and no one else claims to have that same role, then they are confirmed town.

that is true. i was wondering WHEN would we be able to do this effectively? (the problem is people's inactivity)

mutantdevle wrote:

You may argue that by not lynching we are not risking killing someone who has a role that MAY catch scum. However, if you calculate the odds that the person you want to lynch is a certain role and calculate that with the chances of their ability actually catching someone, then lynching will always be superior.
When you lynch, you always have a [X / total players] chances of catching mafia where X = the number of mafia alive. Say, for example, we don't want to lynch because there might be a cop. There is a [1 / total players] chance that they are a cop and a [X / (total players - 1)] chance they'll get a guilty result during the night. The fact that there are now 2 parts to the statistic to considers means that a lynch is better than a cop check. You'd also have to add on the probabilities to that cop check of the chances it could be prevented and the cop could be killed and then you multiply that across all the days the cop could live with the number of results they could get before death and it's still not worth it. Those statistics from the lynch outweigh the statistics that any action could possibly give us if we decide not to lynch.

it should be mentioned that all probability calculations assume that all player-made choices are truly random, which causes some inaccuracy.
lynch is [X / total players] for getting mafia, yeah, but we're not going on a blind random lynching streak hopefully, right? i think we could count neutrals into X as well and consider [X/total] as chance of a lynch that isnt harmful to us. then that probability is 5/11 actually which is pretty high. our cop role is pretty retarded imo, since it only detects 3 of the townies and a neutral which kinda throws it off even more. but in general the cop has [4/(total-1)] to get a friendly result i guess? theres also wizard role that works like tracker and has [1/total-1] chance to find the person visiting someone who dies the same night? i worded it like that cause it doesn't mean that person is guaranteed to be mafioso. anyways, i guess what you said here makes sense, we could go with pressuring or lynching someone,
!vote cooldude76

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 20:40:07

having a timeanddate.com deadline timer would be nice for the day end time

RailMat, mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 21:10:50

!unvote
yeah, no.
we still have roughly 21 hour left and he never got the chance to speak up. we shall wait

RailMat wrote:

It is the best for us all

i REALLY dont like this comment. it feels fake and feigned to me.

Daneeko wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
TaskManager wrote:
but we're not going on a blind random lynching streak hopefully, right?
We probably will because, y'know, lurkers.
im voting cooldude76 mainly to possibly have a "I TOLD YOU SO" moment when i absolutely knew it

??? explain?

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 22:46:09

Slabdrill wrote:

!vote cooldude76

dude HALT its L-1 and we still have time for discussion

TaskManager · 2018-09-20 23:43:15

mutantdevle wrote:

What exactly do you want to discuss?

umm give cooldude some time to speak up at least?

TaskManager · 2018-09-21 05:47:33

Onjit wrote:

I checked the role list and the player list and they're in the same damn order - don't think he randomised the list lmao
looks like marco messed up a mafia game (again)
here's the full role list, woot this post if it's accurate
Smiley - Daneeko
Worker Smiley - RailMat
Wizard - Slabdrill
Fire Wizard - Zumza
Happy Smiley - TaskManager
Cool Smiley - Onjit
Spy - Whirl
Robot - MWstudios
Hazmat - cooldude76
Angry Smiley - mutantdevle
Dark Wizard - ILikeTofuuJoe

No it's wrong
Mutant said it's wrong and I say it's wrong
Also were not allowed to talk anymore are we whoops

ILikeTofuuJoe

TaskManager · 2018-09-21 08:08:20

mutantdevle wrote:

Actually in mafiascum.net there’s a twilight phase between the lynch and the night phase where players can talk so let’s rebel against the EE system!

pls this isn't MafiaScum this is EE forums

TaskManager · 2018-09-21 10:40:04

I have a strong feeling that multiple mafia members are behind this bandwagon

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 19:13:27

since it is not stated in the rolecards i have to ask the host
if ONLY hazmat dies, who is going to be carrying out the mafia kills?

Daneeko wrote:

Turns out that mutantdevle is not a smiley, i checked last night.
!lynch mutantdevle

doesnt guarantee he's not town, let alone that hes 100% mafia
this is why this sheriff role sucks
possible roles for mutant:
wizard
fire wizard
cool smiley
spy
robot
dark wizard
it is a 50% possiblity that hes an evil role
BUT im one of these three green roles, that makes it 3/5 possibility that hes an evil role
!vote mutantdevle

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 19:20:03

Zumza wrote:

?

>using non ee emojis on the forums

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 21:12:16

Damn son, that's a **** of X-uple posts
Can you like, group your thoughts together and post all at once?

First thing that I didn't like about you was this sudden jump to a conclusion when I attacked RailMat D1:

mutantdevle wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
i REALLY dont like this comment. it feels fake and feigned to me.
Agreed. We can lynch Railmat next.

I let that slip at first though cause it was nothing special

Second, you seemed to be opposed to having some extra discussion time and giving poor cooldude a chance to defend himself

TaskManager wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
What exactly do you want to discuss?
umm give cooldude some time to speak up at least?

but has seemingly forgotten that the mod soft cleared me by calling out the mafia team as not posting much.

Is it a 100% clear? I don't think so. You're potentially just one of the three people that don't use quicktopic. It also doesn't prove you're not the Dark Wizard.

mutantdevle wrote:

mutantdevle wrote:
Btw taskmanager, based on what you said, I now know your role.
If you trust that I'm town, then you should also know my role.

hmm? I can't figure this out
I'd say more on this one but I don't want to reveal my exact role publicly, I'll just say that to me you don't seem very likely to be one of the two town roles on the list

RailMat wrote:

as based of all posts that have came in this thread
The roleclaims that I noticed:
Daneeko = town
Slabdrill = town
mutandevle = mafia
TaskManager = mafia
MWstudios neutral
ILikeTofuJoe = town
Zumza = town
Onjit = town

you're bad lol

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 21:23:12

hi can we have a votecount

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 22:33:21

mutantdevle wrote:

You know your role. Now reread page 1. Now read page 4 again. Now you should know my role.

i guess that PROBABLY makes sense

mutantdevle wrote:

Do we wait for the time to run out so that we end the day with a no lynch?

no but i, for example, would place my vote back 2-3 hours prior to day end

mutantdevle wrote:

I can PROVE this to you by showing you how active I am in private topics on mafiascum.net when I am mafia

stop doing this please

also, assuming on the wording of realmaster's notice, does it mean that mafia's quicktopic is open during the day? that is lame

!vote RailMat
they were my 2nd candidate for voting

TaskManager · 2018-09-22 23:25:01

mutantdevle wrote:

Also, I'd like to formally ask the angry smiley to reveal themselves.
Why? Because their role is pointless. No one needs to kill you to win, you win with everyone and you have no power. All you have to do is survive. It's best for you to claim so that no one accidentally kills you.

mafia could intentionally attack them for **** and giggles tho

TaskManager · 2018-09-23 00:57:48

Slabdrill wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
Also, I'd like to formally ask the angry smiley to reveal themselves.
Why? Because their role is pointless. No one needs to kill you to win, you win with everyone and you have no power. All you have to do is survive. It's best for you to claim so that no one accidentally kills you.
mafia could intentionally attack them for **** and giggles tho
if they do they're being stupid - it's better to go attack basically anyone else because then you have a chance of getting rid of someone who's more harmful

look at this player list and tell me the probability that mafia isnt stupid

TaskManager · 2018-09-23 10:57:03

RailMat wrote:

I'm not scum. My thoughts are the same. I am something, but not scum

What is your role?

TaskManager · 2018-09-23 11:34:14

Mate I switched my vote to RailMat in post #83

TaskManager · 2018-09-23 12:34:32

RailMat wrote:

I'm hardclaiming a smiley. no scum.
!vote TaskManager

The original smiley? Are you trying to tell us that you're counterclaiming Daneeko?
Sounds fake since Daneeko investigated Mutant and he confirmed the investigation to be truthful.
My vote stands, RailMat is L-1.

TaskManager · 2018-09-23 12:40:57

Onjit wrote:

TaskManager wrote:
RailMat wrote:
I'm hardclaiming a smiley. no scum.
!vote TaskManager
The original smiley? Are you trying to tell us that you're counterclaiming Daneeko?
Sounds fake since Daneeko investigated Mutant and he confirmed the investigation to be truthful.
My vote stands, RailMat is L-1.
it could be that they're claiming a "smiley" ie. not wizard or scum
which is a pretty useless claim tbh

tru
but they said "hardclaiming" idk
also onjit i totally forgot about your cool smiley claim until you made the post #101 lol woops

TaskManager · 2018-09-24 15:26:23

wow onjit how could you hammer you must be definitely bad

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