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#151 2018-06-07 12:14:07

Luka504
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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

Azurepudding wrote:

This is just arguing for the sake of arguing and isn't a productive use of time anymore.

If you truly believe that this discussion is a waste of time, then stop posting.


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#152 2018-06-07 12:19:34

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

mrjawapa wrote:
azurepudding wrote:

Wow, how dare me think that.  For some reason you make it seem as if finding genocide wrong is more villainous than an actual genocide itself

Quit making **** up and trying to be a victim.

Nobody said anything remotely close to that.

I don't feel like a victim at all.  Except maybe for the loss of time I've spent with this sinkhole of an argument.  never thought i'd see people stick up for hitler here tho, and if it's descending that far, if we're throwing out definitions if it inconveniences an argument, if we're really considering hitler may have been a good guy somehow, then really this has become complete bonkers, and so I have nothing else left to say here.

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#153 2018-06-07 12:56:12

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

azurepudding wrote:

I read it just fine, but I believe there was a misuse of "brainwash" there. 

You sound like you were brainwashed to think "Hitler is ultimate evil of everything" cause you just throw away any argument that doesn't agree with that thought

azurepudding wrote:

And since when am I not allowed to voice my opinion on something?  The murder of millions of innocents was wrong.  Wow, how dare me think that.  For some reason you make it seem as if finding genocide wrong is more villainous than an actual genocide itself.  And you have the nerve to call me the brainwashed one.

Excuse me, but you weren't voicing opinion there, you were deciding what's necessary and what isn't, and my point how can you do that when you weren't even present there and asked for the necessity of doing such thing? And again, someone will still have an opinion contradictory to yours


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#154 2018-06-07 14:57:55

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

Zoey2070 (over discord) wrote:

only on ee will "murder is wrong" be a hot take

Look, if you're discussing whether a bad opinion counts as an opinion, you have to have a bad opinion as an example. Discussing the legitimacy of an opinion is not discussing the morality of the opinion or personally backing the opinion. "All black people should die" is an opinion. "All white people should die" is an opinion. Discussing the legitimacy of either of those opinions does not mean I agree with either of them to start with. Now can we stop calling everyone mass murderers?

Validity versus truth - is this right? Surely "anyone arguing the validity of X believes X is morally correct" is a fallacy of some sort.

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#155 2018-06-07 15:21:20

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

Maybe make a new topic for talking about boring definitions and terminology? This topic lost a lot of it’s focus.

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#156 2018-06-07 15:39:01

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Maybe make a new topic for talking about boring definitions and terminology? This topic lost a lot of it’s focus.

yay another topic split!
3rd generation lets go

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#157 2018-06-07 16:22:40

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

Hey y'all, can we quit the definition of the word opinion debate and focus more on using this topic to talk about LGBT+ ****?

I don't want to lock this topic because, for a while, we did have some fairly healthy discussion/debates. If I do lock it though, I'll unlock it about a week later. That should be enough time for everyone to get over themselves.


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#158 2018-06-07 16:31:52

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

mutantdevle wrote:

LGBT+ ****

stop insulting groups of people for their preferences!!

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#159 2018-06-07 16:33:20

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

mutantdevle wrote:

That should be enough time for everyone to get over themselves.

a lot of us have had a decade or two at least to figure that one out. And yet

but yes. Now that we've had two or three posts saying "pls no off-topic" we should probably dispense with those

the sad part is that I like this sort of pedantics

One curiosity I have with people who bring up religion's acceptance of nontraditional attraction, what exactly do they mean? I heard a sermon by a gay worship leader who was condemning his former lifestyle and "bad thoughts." So, Jesus loves you, but your actions are still reprehensible is what I get. Is that what we're out for?

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#160 2018-06-08 15:07:16

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

hummerz5 wrote:

people who bring up religion's acceptance of nontraditional attraction, what exactly do they mean?

Basically, things aren't always black and white. Everyone here, at least I'd hope so, would agree that murder is wrong. Religion has justified murdering people in certain circumstances, even in present day. It all depends on what your morals are. You can't accurately say someone's opinion is anymore wrong than your own.

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#161 2018-06-08 18:09:56

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

If AK712 gets banned for being annoying and calling people "sinners" why does Zoey get to be annoying and call people "transphobes" hmmmm


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#162 2018-06-08 18:16:16

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

XxAtillaxX wrote:

If AK712 gets banned for being annoying and calling people "sinners" why does Zoey get to be annoying and call people "transphobes" hmmmm

because this game is pro-gay
also its gay month and ak712 didnt do it during his christian month or smth


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#163 2018-06-11 02:09:59

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

mrjawapa wrote:
hummerz5 wrote:

people who bring up religion's acceptance of nontraditional attraction, what exactly do they mean?

Basically, things aren't always black and white. Everyone here, at least I'd hope so, would agree that murder is wrong. Religion has justified murdering people in certain circumstances, even in present day. It all depends on what your morals are. You can't accurately say someone's opinion is anymore wrong than your own.

my follow-up sentence actually tied into the question I was asking. I don't quite follow how your response helps answer the overall curiosity I have about the seemingly two-faced "yes gay is OK but really you're a sinner going to hell" message.

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#164 2018-06-11 07:16:47

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

Hummerz I think an overlooked part of Christianity is that you can still go to heaven if you sin. It’s their belief that Jesus died for our sins and, as long as your faith is placed in him and you worship god, all can be forgiven. I think a core concept of Christianity is that they know people are not perfect and they know people will sin. You then seek forgiveness from God for those sins. That’s why people on death row are given religious access. It’s last minute repentance and forgiveness in an attempt to go to heaven. So yes, being gay is a sin. But that’s okay because, as long as you devote yourself to Christ, that sin can be forgiven.


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#165 2018-06-24 10:58:47

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

yeah, nice try mutant "devil", you cant fool me

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#166 2018-06-24 11:54:23

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

HeyNK wrote:

yeah, nice try mutant "devil", you cant fool me

???


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#167 2018-06-24 15:36:47

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

mutantdevle wrote:
HeyNK wrote:

yeah, nice try mutant "devil", you cant fool me

???

He's implying that you seem like a devil for saying that being gay is a sin.

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#168 2018-06-24 18:02:47

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

The joke -------------->
https://wiki.everybodyedits.com/images/d/d2/011_devil :Norwegienboyee: :heynk:

I cant remmeber what the joke really was //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad anyways thats enough of that

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#169 2018-06-24 18:28:53

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
mutantdevle wrote:
HeyNK wrote:

yeah, nice try mutant "devil", you cant fool me

???

He's implying that you seem like a devil for saying that being gay is a sin.

Ahh I get it now :P

Yes HeyNK, I am the Devil trying to trick you into gay sex under the pretence that you will be forgiven for it ;)

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#170 2018-06-29 04:52:06

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Re: Random LGBT+ debates 'n stuff

nnever mind

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