REMOVE INVISIBLE PORTALS REMOVE INVIISLBE GRAVITY

Kirby · 2018-04-11 22:22:06

The argument that "if someone abuses (x), it's just bad level design, therefore this feature/suggestion should stay/shouldn't be overlooked" makes sense, but for invisible arrows I do think there's another factor that should be taken into account.

Invis things aren't useful intuitively. Unless someone has a really good idea or is really good at level design, invis things are extremely difficult to not "abuse". When coins were introduced to the game, people definitely could've just flooded worlds with them if they wanted to, but if someone wanted to create a decent level it wouldn't be hard for them to figure out how to use coins to benefit their world.

With invis things, it's REALLY hard to make them work, as it's easy for the owner to falsely assume that their locations are obvious. This is an inherent issue with anything invisible, and unless the level builder really knows what they're doing, it's inevitable.

something something too late to remove something something reboot

Onjit, Kentiya, mutantdevle, PTU, Slabdrill

Luka504 · 2018-04-11 23:34:46

Kirby wrote:

With invis things, it's REALLY hard to make them work, as it's easy for the owner to falsely assume that their locations are obvious.

This is really stupid tbh, what you are essentially suggesting is to limit world possibilities for everyone because some users can't use them appropriately. If someone uses invisible portals poorly, then it's their fault and not the game's fault. If you can't design a good level with invisible portals then don't use them, you don't have to cripple people who can actually use them optimally.

drunkbnu

Koto · 2018-04-12 00:12:25

What if while you placed arrows and/or dots while holding Shift, ir Ctrl made them imvisible? Make it a hotkey thing so that people who aren't dedicated enough to the game won't be aware enough to spam them.

Tomahawk · 2018-04-12 00:31:19

Invisible arrows ruin minis.

But the world-builders are to blame, not the blocks.

SirJosh3917, mutantdevle, octodecillion, Slabdrill

Minimania · 2018-04-12 01:53:01

azurepudding wrote:

remove ladders, smilies have no arms, so this is bad game design

Remove Easter Eggs too, nobody can use the bunny smiley so there's no point

Kira · 2018-04-12 02:16:14

There are a lot of ways to use them correctly. To be fair, I really want the invisible gravity to be actually invisible. It would make MUCH MORE sense.
Perhaps a separate section?

Visible Gravity
Semi-Visible Gravity
Invisible Gravity

Koto, Onjit, mutantdevle, Yonanoke

Koto · 2018-04-12 02:44:40

Morphable gravity, lol

peace, mutantdevle, Slabdrill

N1KF · 2018-04-12 03:20:50

Kira wrote:

To be fair, I really want the invisible gravity to be actually invisible. It would make MUCH MORE sense.

I didn't understand how dots worked when I first came across them. I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at invisible gravity!

mutantdevle, Gosha, Kentiya

Kira · 2018-04-12 04:04:12

N1KF wrote:

I didn't understand how dots worked when I first came across them. I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at invisible gravity!

Okay let's use that everytime someone will introduce an action block.

New effects? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at new effects!

Vanish blocks? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at vanish blocks!

Breakable blocks? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at breakable blocks!

Kappa? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at kappa!

hi? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at hi!

Yonanoke, Slabdrill

N1KF · 2018-04-12 04:38:12

Kira wrote:

N1KF wrote:
I didn't understand how dots worked when I first came across them. I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at invisible gravity!
Okay let's use that everytime someone will introduce an action block.
New effects? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at new effects!
Vanish blocks? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at vanish blocks!
Breakable blocks? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at breakable blocks!
Kappa? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at kappa!
hi? I can only imagine how much a new player would be confused at hi!

Effect blocks not only give a visual indication of what they do (the purple up arrow effect increases jump height), but active effects also appear in the interface. Vanish blocks are pretty common in platform games. I'd assume that breakable blocks would have cracks, or some other visual showing that it's breakable. Invisible gravity is more confusing than those things you mentioned in my opinion.

Doomsdaytoy9000 · 2018-04-12 06:40:59

please do not remove any invisible action blocks, their good uses outweigh the bad

Luka504

Mait · 2018-04-12 13:38:34

MY SOLUTION : REMOVE EE

drstereos, octodecillion

peace · 2018-04-12 15:10:27

can we not? invisible stuff is okay and sometimes nice alos by removign them you break MUCH worlds best sulotion is: ee needs to add an tutprial for EACH actio0n block can be seen via settimgs

azurepudding · 2018-04-12 19:16:30

remember when invis portals had a minimap color? genius

good ol' days

mutantdevle, Yonanoke, Slabdrill

John · 2018-04-13 00:32:27

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KingN24 · 2018-04-13 02:24:23

why does everyone want to remove invisible arrows?

Seriously, if you want to remove them then stop using them. Dont make it annoying on the people that ACTUALLY like them.

Yonanoke, LukeM

Gosha · 2018-04-13 03:20:45

KingN24 wrote:

why does everyone want to remove invisible arrows?
Seriously, if you want to remove them then stop using them. Dont make it annoying on the people that ACTUALLY like them.

The reason we want them to be removed is because people don't use it wisely and playing maps with invisible arrows becomes boring

Yonanoke · 2018-04-13 03:45:23

Gosha wrote:

The reason we want them to be removed is because people don't use it wisely and playing maps with invisible arrows becomes boring

No, it's really good for design levels. Don't make changes in-map, but in-game looks better than with normal dots. And it's easy for people to know that there will be dots, just add a mini tutorial saying this ; )

Imagine the Treasure Cove without the invisible arrows? Or replaced by normal arrows, how bat that can be ?

Or Good Egg Galaxy, just think, you are a bad world designer, or if you not, some people are, soon you think everyone will too, no and no.

And I'm 100% sure that most worlds builders have more ideas and better for invisible gravity than me. Maybe i create a world only for show how wrong you are, and I'm saying it for everyone who want remove invisible arrows or replace them...

LukeM, azurepudding

Guest. · 2018-04-13 04:38:52

Glaauber wrote:

Gosha wrote:
The reason we want them to be removed is because people don't use it wisely and playing maps with invisible arrows becomes boring
No, it's really good for design levels. Don't make changes in-map, but in-game looks better than with normal dots. And it's easy for people to know that there will be dots, just add a mini tutorial saying this ; )
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 0512/2.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 1633/1.png
Imagine the Treasure Cove without the invisible arrows? Or replaced by normal arrows, how bat that can be ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png
Or Good Egg Galaxy, just think, you are a bad world designer, or if you not, some people are, soon you think everyone will too, no and no.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … nknown.png
And I'm 100% sure that most worlds builders have more ideas and better for invisible gravity than me. Maybe i create a world only for show how wrong you are, and I'm saying it for everyone who want remove invisible arrows or replace them...

imo these are all examples of how invisible gravity can be bad

Xfrogman43, Slabdrill

Mait · 2018-04-13 10:26:44

peace wrote:

can we not? invisible stuff is okay and sometimes nice alos by removign them you break MUCH worlds best sulotion is: ee needs to add an tutprial for EACH actio0n block can be seen via settimgs

can you not write anymore. Like i am actually serious. Your grammar is horrible.

Gosha · 2018-04-13 10:49:01

Imo this looks much nicer

Doesn't ruin the art and you can clearly see where you can and can't go

mutantdevle, Slabdrill, Onjit

Doomsdaytoy9000 · 2018-04-13 11:24:55

Gosha wrote:

Imo this looks much nicer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 0512/2.png
Doesn't ruin the art and you can clearly see where you can and can't go

Imo it looks better with invisible dots

Yonanoke

Kira · 2018-04-13 12:20:34

Doomsdaytoy9000 wrote:

Gosha wrote:
Imo this looks much nicer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 0512/2.png
Doesn't ruin the art and you can clearly see where you can and can't go
Imo it looks better with invisible dots

Well you know.. That's just your opinion man.

Shout out to Emma333

drunkbnu

Koto · 2018-04-13 14:47:15

Imo let the creator decide what look's best.

Yonanoke, LukeM, octodecillion, Luka504

Xfrogman43 · 2018-04-13 22:07:55

Koto wrote:

Imo let the creator decide what look's best.

sure but 99% of people use invisible stuff badly

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