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#27 2017-08-16 11:48:42
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
If you haven't already, you should check out the mafiascum wiki: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Main_Page
It's got basically all of the definitions that you'll need.
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#28 2017-08-16 15:30:26
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
Wait a second... since when was EB confirmed?
All they did was claim a role that's hard to disprove, along with two claims of checks that are somewhat meaningless if you think about it.
Claim 1: Proc did not visit anyone [N1]
If Proc is scum, he wouldn't disagree with being told that he did nothing N1 (it'd clear him of suspicions), and if he was town, he wouldn't disagree with the truth (nothing to hide).
Claim 2: Luka visited Alphajon [N2]
This is a very easy claim to make up, as it was known that Luka was the doctor and Alphajon is the roleblocker, so it'd be fairly obvious that Luka would want to protect Alphajon.
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Just putting it out there, the Tracker is a pretty easy role to fakeclaim, especially in a closed game.
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#31 2017-08-17 11:21:44
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
!vote Slabdrill
I've got a pretty good idea of what is actually going on here, based on tonight's outcome, and if i survive, I'll reveal all.
Something ****'s going on, and I just need one more thing to confirm it.
I'll try to post again later again tonight, but if I don't, I'll probably miss the end of D3 (it ends at like 8am for me)
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#33 2017-08-17 13:57:53
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
Just going to put it out there to hummerz, EB and alpha, I'd recommend not interacting with proc tonight unless you want to get KO'd
also with gosha as vig this setup is beyond unbalanced
you should have really gotten someone to check your setup maxi
ok bye pls woot
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#38 2017-08-17 15:18:23
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
Onjit wrote:Just going to put it out there to hummerz, EB and alpha, I'd recommend not interacting with proc tonight unless you want to get KO'd
what does this mean why does everybody know something what ahhhh
i'm not going to spell it out for you, but if you look at whats been said in the thread (you might have to scroll for a while) you should hind what you need to find
of course i'm probably not 100% right on the rolecards, but i think i'm close enough
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#41 2017-08-19 02:36:49, last edited by Onjit (2017-08-19 02:38:00)
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
The effectiveness of the night actions, just so you can get an idea of just how broken this setup is
The following numbers are assumed for N1, and don't take blocks/protections into account (which would reduce the odds even more).
They're still indicative of how it works
Framer
Only useful if the person you target was also targeted by the cop on the same night.
(1/12)*(1/12)=0.7% effective
Janitor
Only works if the person you clean is also searched by the cop on the same night.
(1/12)*(1/12)=0.7% effective
It's also limited to three uses for some reason
Role Cop
Only gives information on if they have a role, which is only really effective on the next night.
100% effective though, albeit not super useful
Tracker
A strong role gives clear information on not only if they have a role, but who they visited
100% effective
Classic Cop
Effectively confirms whoever you search. Only challenged by the framer, but only if they target the same player as you that night.
100-0.7=99.3% effective
Vigilante
Lets you shoot whoever you want. Has two chances too!
4/12=33% chance of scum (more if you don't choose randomly)
Roleblocker
Lets you block anyone you want with no consequences. Even blocking town can give some information.
100% effective
Doctor
Lets you protect anyone you want. Only works if you target the same person that is targeted by the mafia (or necro)
(1/9)+(1/12)=19% effective
Townie
Townie
Townie
Townie
Necromancer
Basically a nerfed serial killer. You may as well have just said they can't kill N1 and saved yourself the effort of making up a role.
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#42 2017-08-19 03:09:04
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
Oh by the way, why was anatoly modkilled?
Meanwhile Luka wasn't which skewed the balance even more
anatoly was talking to people outside of the game
he also tried to delete one of his posts
as for why luka wasn't modkilled,
judging from maxi's setup, i feel like his idea of "balance" is to make it fair for the town, not as much for everyone else
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#43 2017-08-19 04:13:12
Re: Mafia 13 game [TOWN WINS!]
Onjit wrote:Janitor
Only works if the person you clean is also searched by the cop on the same night.
(1/12)*(1/12)=0.7% effective
It's also limited to three uses for some reasonWay I understand the janitor role is that when the night ends, the town doesn't get to know what role they were. 100% effective, useful only if you already somehow know what they are and want to keep that info from the town.
That's fair
My point still stands
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