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#1 2017-07-12 14:22:50, last edited by victorious_Vitamin (2017-07-12 14:41:40)

victorious_Vitamin
Anonymous user

Net Neutrality

I'm surprised I don't see anything here about this.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

Not much needs to be said, except that we are still fighting this fight. Join in!

Edit: Neat, anonymous posting! - Wait I can't change it? Oops...

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#2 2017-07-12 14:31:17

Catty_coconut
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

yay for living in eu

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#3 2017-07-12 14:31:42

Universal_UFO
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

Sorry to say but the "Internet" is nothing else that a complex bunch of cables and servers.

Cables are placed by companies at a cost. You wanna use said company's service? You must agree to their terms and conditions.

Same levels of control apply to most contries for other forms of telecomunication.

In many places phone calls can be recorded and/or listened to by police. Same applies to text messages.

- swarth100

#4 2017-07-12 14:39:55, last edited by victorious_Vitamin (2017-07-12 14:41:06)

victorious_Vitamin
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

Universal_UFO wrote:

Sorry to say but the "Internet" is nothing else that a complex bunch of cables and servers.

Cables are placed by companies at a cost. You wanna use said company's service? You must agree to their terms and conditions.

Same levels of control apply to most contries for other forms of telecomunication.

In many places phone calls can be recorded and/or listened to by police. Same applies to text messages.

- swarth100

Um, this has nothing to do with net neutrality...

Net neutrality involves companies wanting their customers to pay extra to access certain websites.

So if the website doesn't pay extra, they will be "throttled" and get slower access to the internet.

EE would be screwed if it were affected.

Catty_coconut wrote:

yay for living in eu

You would be affected by the websites that are based in the US though.

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#5 2017-07-12 16:17:47

Alarmist-animator
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

if it gets passed cloudflare should throttle the ip ranges of the FCC, how's them apples http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-165-135-0-0-1/pft

#6 2017-07-12 17:10:57

Universal_UFO
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

victorious_Vitamin wrote:

Um, this has nothing to do with net neutrality...

Net neutrality involves companies wanting their customers to pay extra to access certain websites.

So if the website doesn't pay extra, they will be "throttled" and get slower access to the internet.

EE would be screwed if it were affected.

Catty_coconut wrote:

yay for living in eu

You would be affected by the websites that are based in the US though.

If you own the service why shouldn't you be able to enforce these kind of fees?

Sure it's a negative experience for smaller companies, but this is making money 101.

#7 2017-07-12 17:27:47

SillySandwich
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

Universal_UFO wrote:

but this is making money 101.

ironically aren't there two facets to the same school of thought? I feel that republicans want tax breaks for their small businessmen but at the same time fight for this lack of net neutrality. If nothing else it proves they're lying about their priorities or can't think their way out of a paper bag

#8 2017-07-12 20:49:18

unstable_ubermensch
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

Would a VPN help?

#9 2017-07-12 21:20:13, last edited by UrbanBear (2017-07-12 21:20:56)

UrbanBear
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

unstable_ubermensch wrote:

Would a VPN help?

potentially. with a blacklist type system where certain sites are de-prioritized, sure, but not with a whitelist type system where only certain sites are given unrestricted access.

#10 2017-07-12 23:33:09, last edited by high-horse (2017-07-12 23:34:04)

high-horse
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

Universal_UFO wrote:

Sure it's a negative experience for smaller companies, but this is making money 101.

If there was no net nutrality, it would be a negative experience for everyone apart from the companies controlling the internet...
This would mean that they could do terrible things, for example if their infrastructure wasnt good enough, rather than upgrading it, they could just slow down websites that use a lot of bandwidth (which they would do), which would basically ruin a huge number of things, as well as decrease the overall speed of the internet, while also increasing prices (they would probably charge you more for 'unrestricted' internet access)

#11 2017-07-12 23:48:16

Flat_fairy
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

No net neutrality would suck. I'm mainly just posting here to see what name I get.

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#12 2017-07-13 09:31:42

Universal_UFO
Anonymous user

Re: Net Neutrality

high-horse wrote:
Universal_UFO wrote:

Sure it's a negative experience for smaller companies, but this is making money 101.

If there was no net nutrality, it would be a negative experience for everyone apart from the companies controlling the internet...
This would mean that they could do terrible things, for example if their infrastructure wasnt good enough, rather than upgrading it, they could just slow down websites that use a lot of bandwidth (which they would do), which would basically ruin a huge number of things, as well as decrease the overall speed of the internet, while also increasing prices (they would probably charge you more for 'unrestricted' internet access)

Welcome to planet Earth where if someone has a monopoly and they suck upkeeping it a smaller, smarter company will rise and take their price.

Take Uber as an example.

Competition in a market is always present and ensure a positive consumer experience. Most of the time this comes at an expense for those providing the service (actual workers/companies)

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