Is Donald Trump a Good President

Kingfdamt6579 · 2016-09-18 11:26:18

Im not involved in the US Elections since I am not an american citizen. But in my opinion, somebodys gotta be better. I mean, cmon, all the news is like, poop cuz of Donald Trump.

Norwee · 2016-09-18 14:25:12

He is a pretty good president if you are a fan of WW3.

realmaster42, Zumza

Kessiope · 2016-09-18 17:22:39

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

He is a pretty good president if you are a fan of WW3.

WW3 ? Trump is a dictator friendly with North Korea ? i never though of that, thanks for the news !

ZeldaXD · 2016-09-18 18:08:45

No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.

Glenn21

Bimps · 2016-09-18 18:10:54

hillary is dying fast. most of trumps policies are good. pick one

Zumza · 2016-09-18 18:11:35

ZeldaXD wrote:

No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.

WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.

Bimps · 2016-09-18 18:12:38

Zumza wrote:

ZeldaXD wrote:
No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.
WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.

ww3 wont happen in the foreseeable future

Zumza · 2016-09-18 18:14:12

Bimps wrote:

Zumza wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:
No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.
WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.
ww3 won't happen in the foreseeable future

Something has to change even if it would be a literary war or not.

Bimps · 2016-09-18 18:15:47

Zumza wrote:

Bimps wrote:
Zumza wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:
No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.
WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.
ww3 won't happen in the foreseeable future
Something has to change even if it would be a literary war or not.

what

Zumza · 2016-09-18 18:20:31

Bimps wrote:

Zumza wrote:
Bimps wrote:
Zumza wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:
No, we can't have a bigoted racist, sexist, Islamophobic, trans-phobic, homophobic, fascist, warmonger like DRUMPF as the president of the United States. He is literally Adolf Hitler and is going to start World War III and literally cause another Holocaust, we have to stop this now. He caused Qaddafi's and Saddam's death destabilizing the whole middle east and thus creating ISIS and creating a whole immigration wave, remember Trump's "We came, we saw, he DIED"? Or when Trump laughed about possible war against Iran? And why the hell hasn't he released his taxes or medical record yet? And let's not forget that he went bankrupt 4 TIMES, if he can't handle his companies, how can he handle the country? OR WHEN HE THREATENED HILLARY? AND LET'S NOT FORGET HE AVOIDED DRAFT TO VIETNAM! Just anything would be better than Trump really, we just can't have him.
WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.
ww3 won't happen in the foreseeable future
Something has to change even if it would be a literary war or not.
what

Russia will keep making pressure on Ukraine and Transnistria, North Korea will stop to endure their regime on some point, China will continue to grow its economic power, emigrants will transform the Europe as we know today.

2016-09-18 19:28:43

WW3 would only happen with some random banana republic armed with nukes with some crazed dictator, wouldn't it?

Zumza wrote:

Bimps wrote:
Zumza wrote:
Bimps wrote:
Zumza wrote:
WW3 is imminent with or without Donald Trump and its going to be relatively soon. Trump will just accelerate it, and most likely have bigger consequences.
ww3 won't happen in the foreseeable future
Something has to change even if it would be a literary war or not.
what
Russia will keep making pressure on Ukraine and Transnistria, North Korea will stop to endure their regime on some point, China will continue to grow its economic power, emigrants will transform the Europe as we know today.

TIL real life is just a Battlefield 4 DLC

STD · 2016-09-18 19:48:44

hes not president yet so idk if he's a good president

N1KF · 2016-09-18 22:45:55

STD wrote:

hes not president yet so idk if he's a good president

I know the answer. He's not a good president, since he's not a president at all.

Onjit · 2016-09-19 02:28:35

I took a poop in the toilet that would be a better candidate! Unfortunately it wasn't born in America

N1KF · 2016-09-19 02:30:23

Onjit wrote:

I took a poop in the toilet that would be a better candidate! Unfortunately it wasn't born in America

It also needs to be at least thirty-five years old. There would probably be less stinkier options by then, though.

Although, progressives would probably be looking for something to push boundaries. They would probably appreciate it.

Abelysk · 2016-09-19 06:13:47

No, he is not a good president. At all, really.

Dude his wife copied Obamas speech it cant any worse than that...

He's a good businessman but a terrible politician. He's like if Kanye became president.

Different55 · 2016-09-19 07:01:57

Kefka wrote:

Dude his wife copied Obamas speech it cant any worse than that...

If your wife can't into public speaking then you're obviously a crap president. Not because of the racism or anything else.

Hostage

Norwee · 2016-09-19 09:44:31

Stay stupid and elect Trump America. Just don't nuke my country please.

MBlood

Kaleb · 2016-09-19 18:07:22

Unlike a lot of people in this section, I beleve electing Trump will be far from a disaster, and indeed is the second best possible choice USA can make.

In terms of his public speeches and rhetoric, people need to remember that all politicians have a mask and every person who wants to make any rational decision needs to look who is behind the mask.

However, unlike most politicians, Trump's public mask does not obscure his real face, but it deliberately and loudly accentuates it to get into the public eye.

Trump is well known for being in the reality show business - and his bravado and far-fetched rhetoric reflects that. Well, too be elected, you have to be noticed first, and Trump does everything to attract the media spotlights. His loud campaign strategy is ridiculously successful.

And to those saying Trump will cause destruction of the USA, they have to keep in mind that ANY PRESIDENT NEEDS CONGRESS TO PASS LEGISLATION.

And Congress definitely doesn't like Trump. Congress is after all a key part of the estabilishment, and a significant majority of elite republicans and democrats consider Trump to be decidedly anti-estabilishment. The Congress won't place passing any of Trump's far-fetched laws high on their priority list, and won't even discuss any outright frivolous.

If Trump decides to deport every single Mexican out of the US, well, he can't. Unless he can find and persuade enough high-ranking politicians, he is completely harmless. And high-ranking politicians definitely don't want that - most of them primarily want things they have been paid to want - paid by the american nobility - the super-rich 1%.

Most iconic trait of Donald Trump is definitely his shameless egoism. He doesn't try to hide it, he even amplifies it.

The point is we can see the person behind the mask.

Along with Bernie Sanders, Trump is the only candidate based primarily on principles, the only candidate that is in any sense "real". The rest are not, their political positions are largely formed by their parties, sponsors and public polls.

Marco Rubio and Hillary Clinton are the living examples of this. They are faceless, pre-made, manufactured, puppets, faux, fugazi, whatever you call it, they are very easily influenced and place the principles and desires of their wealthy sponsors above any political positions and beliefs they themselves hold. These sponsors are mostly corporations much richer than Trump, mind you.

The driving principle behind Trump is not to get more money and gifts - he has far more money than all previous presidents put together. He is motivated by the desire to be the "alpha male", and the thirst for fame and greatness. Trump wants to rise above all others, he doesn't want to obey anyone above him. He doesn't want to needlessly sacrifice his power if the benefits don't outweigh the costs, and in Trump's case they almost never do. He wants to be the leader, and he always wants to have the upper hand.

Compatibility with and acceptance by the existing government is however of utmost importance when you want to push your agenda through. Any government or a country is after all just a system of rules that regulate cooperation of a group of people.

Trump definitely exhibits an uncanny similarity to Vladimir Putin when it comes to his motives, however he doesn't pose any real danger to the US. For the last 300 years, Russia has a tradition of absolutism, and Putin is a continuation of that. USA, however, has been an aristocracy - not ruled by a single powerful figure, but thousands of elites sharing the majority of political power (however, there has been a short era of democratic socialism from the 1940s until the 1990s, caused by the WWII and the subsequent rivalry of superpowers). The US aristocratic estabilishment is currently deeply rooted in the system, and they don't want to just give and won't just give their power to Trump.

In a nutshell, US estabilishment is not insane, anything proposed by Trump deemed too ridiculous will be dissmissed immediately, and Trump will definitely not be able to accomplish most of his far-right ideas. However, I believe that no matter what Trump does, he will bring a lasting positive change. In this way his presidency might very well end up being very similar to one of Bernie Sanders, who I consider to be the best choice for the US presidency.

Unlike the last few previous president, Trump is not compatible with the system in an unprecedented way, and will prevent the government estabilishment from furthering its own power for at least one term. This would be a major blow to the power of corporations and would shape USA for the subsequent decades. Second term would only cement the shift in the political paradigm.

However, by voting for Hillary, Rubio, Kasich or any other candate created by the estabilishment, we also vote for the sponsors, giving them more power. The same sponsors that boomed and flourished throughout the 2000s, and caused far greater mayhem than Donald Trump could ever dream of causing.

If you want your children to live in a better America, there are two choices. Either vote Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump, and your vote will make a real, positive difference.

The real choice is not between Republicans and Democrats, the real choice is between keeping or stopping the status quo. Trump and Bernie seem like two completely different and opposite candidates, but they are just the same side of one coin. Either one can cause change and revival of American prosperity, and their differences fade when we compare them to what they have in common.

I will leave you with one more thing to think about:

When you ask people about the most prosperous era in the US history, the majority will tell you it was the 1950s and 1960s, when the USA rapidly arose as the world economic leader after the WWII (while the rest of the world was still focused on rebuilding their devastated economies to the pre-war levels)

This was the era USA was unquestionably at its greatest, however few people remember it was also an era of widespread socialism. When we look at their economic policies, Eisenhower and Kennedy were unquestionably more socialist than Bernie Sanders currently is.

Okay, and this reason is real and also some of my personal beliefs so yah,
I'm done. *Drops the Mic*

Zumza · 2016-09-19 18:14:26

Oh please, Trump is a megalomaniac.

MBlood · 2016-09-19 18:56:28

I'm not American, but i believe if Trump gets elect = war, if Trumps doesn't get elect = ISIS attack

Kessiope · 2016-09-19 19:00:01

MBlood wrote:

I'm not American, but i believe if Trump gets elect = war, if Trumps doesn't get elect = ISIS attack

ISIS still

Pingohits · 2016-09-19 21:39:41

peeps are talking about voting for trump because he's "the lesser of two evils"

besides plane trips to afghanistan, it's the least sensible thing to do

i simply cannot comprehend the why in this logic, i mean, voting for an expired carrot because he's less evil than a botox-injected gargoyle? what kind of nerk are you giving to me? are you disregarding third party candidates, because you do understand they're also a choice you can pick?

one may argue third party candidates have no chance or do not "belong", but if you would much rather spend your days with a carrot as president then feel free to vote for him, not like he's going to do anything bad

??

rgl32, Emma333

N1KF · 2016-09-19 22:44:45

Pingohits wrote:

peeps are talking about voting for trump because he's "the lesser of two evils"
besides plane trips to afghanistan, it's the least sensible thing to do
i simply cannot comprehend the why in this logic, i mean, voting for an expired carrot because he's less evil than a botox-injected gargoyle? what kind of nerk are you giving to me? are you disregarding third party candidates, because you do understand they're also a choice you can pick?
one may argue third party candidates have no chance or do not "belong", but if you would much rather spend your days with a carrot as president then feel free to vote for him, not like he's going to do anything bad
??

I would also like to add that it's very unlikely a single vote will decide an entire election.

Bobithan · 2016-09-19 23:43:40

N1KF wrote:

I would also like to add that it's very unlikely a single vote will decide an entire election.

this kills the democracy

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