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#1 2016-08-15 20:04:05

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Is anarchy possible?

Even if a national government disbanded, there would without a doubt still be recognition of authority on a local level, which contradicts the definition of anarchy.

There would, however, be a lack of recognition of authority on a national level.

Would there be anarchy on a national level but not a local level? Would there be anarchy on both levels? Would there be no anarchy at all because by definition it is impossible in society?

Furthermore, if a large-scale government collapsed, what word would best describe the type of society that would form if anarchy were theoretically impossible?


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#2 2016-08-15 20:06:40, last edited by Koya (2016-08-15 20:08:58)

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

I think that most people would not want anarchy and would try and group small networks together and group them until there is a national connection; people don't want to fend for themselves, make their own food, get their own water and have a way to trade time and items using currency.

Complete anarchy will not last long, there will be national leaders shortly after.

There will be minimal anarchy locally, more so as a whole nation but will stabalise.

I don't know names of sociopolitical groups to answer the last question.


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#3 2016-08-15 20:32:30

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

Even if this magically worked, and we turned off national government, someone else would come and conquer. Our nation defends us; no defense and someone else takes over. Indeed, even in isolation I believe we would revert to a system that certainly has local government. National as I see it as a United statesian wouldn't likely reform, (without the 'that's what we used to do' effect) were just that big

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#4 2016-08-16 10:25:43

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

Donald Trump supporters will probably want anarchy.

#5 2016-08-16 10:48:06

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

I think it's human nature to seek social order. As such, people would gravitate towards local communities. In cities there'd be much more chaos, but in rural areas, towns would probably stick together.

Of course, things must be really bad for a well developed country to fall into complete disarray.


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#6 2016-08-16 10:53:22

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

Kefka wrote:

Donald Trump supporters will probably want anarchy.

No... they want Trump as a leader...


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#7 2016-08-16 15:02:31

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

Koya wrote:
Kefka wrote:

Donald Trump supporters will probably want anarchy.

No... they want Trump as a leader...

b-b-but muh meems... ;_;


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#8 2016-08-16 17:14:50

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

I think that if this did happen,  eventually somebody will take charge at a larger level, because honestly, if there's no government, someone'll have to take control and I'd bet the people will support him/her. But until then, yeah, anarchy.


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#9 2016-08-16 22:46:56

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

I always thought anarchy was about individuals living away from society with no regard for the law, rather than a whole nation lacking a government or authority figure.


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#10 2016-08-16 23:38:35

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

^ If you have no regard for the law, isn't that the same effect as having no law?

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#11 2016-08-16 23:42:13, last edited by skullz17 (2016-08-16 23:42:35)

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

hummerz5 wrote:

^ If you have no regard for the law, isn't that the same effect as having no law?

Yeah, so doesn't that mean anarchy is possible for anarchists as individuals, but not society as a whole?


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#12 2016-08-16 23:56:55

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Re: Is anarchy possible?

I disagree. Whether or not the person's frame of reference is the same between the two situations (no regard for law vs no law) does not affect whether or not a system is required/would return/etc.

I do agree, though, that only anarchists would have anarchy. If you don't want anarchy, you'd form a government.

tl;dr: No. The premise does not support the conclusion.

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