Mafia 9 Game Thread (MAFIA + MAXI WIN!!!)

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 08:10:09

And I actually find this change of heart incredibly suspicious. D1 you said nothing about absolutely requiring hard proof to vote for bimps. He turned out to be town. But today we go after kuba for not participating AT ALL and suddenly you require proof? Yeah, that's not shady at all. Why the double standard? What makes kuba special?

Oh but i had proof yesterday. The fact he turned out a townie is just...... His dumb play tactic i guess.
Proof 1: His change in behavior.
Bimps himself was really pushing a lynch on Jawapa. If you watched game 7, he lynched me, no prob. He was a mafia.
In game 8, he straight up stood against the majority and trusted Jawapa to not be evil. He was innocent.
Here he seems to want to lynch someone just beacuse ,,Why not,,.
Its a lot like game 7 which, let me remind you, HE WAS A MAFIA.
Proof 2: Refusing to read his rolecard.
This by itself doesnt really mean much. But its still just..... Not right.
Proof 3: Being VERY aggresive.
Seriously though. He was being very aggresive, especaly towards Jawapa. He didnt even give out any reasons to lynching jawapa, except for him being a jerk. Thats it.
His disguise? ,,Hur hur i didnt read ma rolecard so anything goes for me,, .
Well fun fact: I havent read my rolecard either. So that means you cant lynch me Different :>.
Also when people started voting him up, he claimed citizen.
Thats great n all. But mafias can just claim citzen freely since none of us here know how many regular citizens there are.
And with a Sheriff who only has ONE investigation, the chance youre gonna find the 2-3 mafia is pretty low.
Oh but we also have a Serial Killer here. So we have 3-4 baddies, maybe more!

What do you have on Kuba currently?
He lurks.
Sureeeeeeeeeeee.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 10:25:51

Different55 wrote:

Woah woah woah, how do you know there's a serial killer? There were 2 kills last night, one from marco and one from the mafia. Unless the mafia got roleblocked, in which case yeah there's another killer. But either way, how would you know?

Who needs to read theories anyways.

Luka504 wrote:

Ok after reading this post i realized something.
Jawapa isnt a regular Sheriff.
His rolecard says ,,Finding out if someone has the ability to kill.,, instead of ,,Finding out if someone is supicious.,,
So that means there MUST be another killing role that excludes the mafia.
So indeed we have a Serial Killer or some sort of killing evil role in this game.
Oh thays just peachy.

Different55 wrote:

Okay but he was actually a citizen? He died and we all saw his role. What in the world are you on?

You didnt know he was citizen so dont even try to pull that one off.

Different55 wrote:

No, he's contrbuted nothing to this game. He's done nothing. He's said nothing. But you are absolutely determined that we must have PROOF of his innocence despite that being impossible, and you totally ignore me asking why you were defending him. What reason do you have to believe kuba is innocent?

Thats pretty much lurking.
Also i dont believe kuba is innocent
I dont believe he is mafia either.
I believe you are lynching him for ,,lurking,, which for me doesnt seem like much.

Different55 wrote:

So? I already said that even if our sheriff wasn't a one shot wonder, we would have no guarantee. That was my whole point. There's no guarantee of finding anything. The only guarantee a sheriff can get is if someone comes back guilty, and he didn't get a guilty result back so we have no idea. There will never be proof of innocence in this game, so your insistence of having proof for kuba is ridiculous.

Oh well why dont we lynch you then? I mean, there is no gurantee that you arent mafia. Theres no gurantee maxi isnt mafia. Theres no gurantee God isnt the mafia.

Different55 wrote:

Like I said in my last post, simply not lynching anyone because of lack of information is a bad choice.

Different55 wrote:

so your insistence of having proof for kuba is ridiculous.

Says its a bad idea to lynch someone with lack of information.
Says we dont need information to lynch.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Different55 wrote:

What the heck? Bimps was innocent both games

Lol. Who needs to research anyways.

Different55 wrote:

if there's a change in behavior from one game to another it's obviously not because he was mafia

Well last game Creature was mafia.
He had a change of behavior in that game
Contradictiosn everywhere.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 10:27:55

Oh wait i made a mistake.

Says its a bad idea to lynch someone with lack of information.
Says we dont need information to lynch.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

This is wrong i didnt see the NOT before he lynch.
Ignore plz

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:01:06

Jawapa wrote:

Am I the only one thinking Luka and Kuba are on the same team?
I say lynch Kuba despite his claim, and if he turns up guilty, hang luka.

Ok this.....
Im not even gonna bother.
Im just repeating myself up to this point.
!vote nolynch
If he does indeed flip mafia.
Ok great.
If he flips town, ita gonna be on you different.
(Im still not voting for him.
Since you people will somehow use it against me.
,,Hur hur u voted for him , change in behavior, hur hur mafia,,)

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:08:20

Different55 wrote:

Trust me, you are a target. There's a specific person trying to kill you.

WOW DIFFERENT U DINGUS.
1. THERE IS A SERIAL KILLER. If what you are saying is true, that means there is a killing role. With the goal of killing Bruce.
If you flipping knew there was someone trying to murder Bruce WHY DID U DECLINE MY THEORY.
2. Now that you revealed you are gonna suicide if Bruce dies, now he is pretty much a guranteed target. SMART MOVE.
3. If you knew there was someone after Bruce, why would either of you reveal his identity? Its like you are silently gamethrowing.

Differen55 wrote:

I think that person is marco. It doesn't appear that anyone else besides mafia has a killing ability, so I'm pretty sure it's him.

Omg
Is that.....
What i think it is?
ACTUAL FLIPPING IDEAS AND ACTUAL THEORIES!?
Finaly you have some actual ideas that arent: This guy lurks hes a mafia.

!unvote
!vote marco

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:14:21

Different55 wrote:

Unfortunately your death by any other means (mafia or lynching) appears to be totally fine, so unfortunately I can't say I completely trust you, either.

Well okay. So if we lynch marco, the Serial Killer guy,
Bruce/Kirby is just a citizen at best?
Well okay that at least has a few more confirmed townies.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:23:56

JaWapa wrote:

Luka, you need to chill. The name calling is not needed. I don't care if their childish/petty names or not; it's uncalled for.
If you can't handle that game without blowing a gasket, maybe you shouldn't play.

Ok yeah youre right.
Maybe i should calm down for a bit.
Sorry.
Ok so im just gonna place everything in one post.
1. Bruce, or Kirby, is a citizen like role who has the goal of not being killed by some Serial Killer. Any other deaths are fine. (Thats a bit unbalanced, since dying is easy)
2. Different is Bruces protector, who has the same goal, not let the Serial Killer get Bruce.
3. We have a confirmed Serial Killer. Whoever he is, has the goal of killing Bruce (for whatever reasons)
4. Jawapa is a Sheriff like role, who has ONE investigation. In all honestly. Your lying. Unless you are REALLY lucky, that single investigation is pretty pointless. I think you have 3-4 at least.
5. Marco is claiming vigilante, which could be a Serial Killer cover-up, as Different pointed out. This makes him pretty Sheriff immune (Both vigilantes and serial killers can kill). This makes me think he is indeed the Serial Killer we should have dead.
6. If we dont lynch anyone now, the Serial Killer is gonna kill Bruce and have his win, and costing us not one, but TWO townies.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:48:37

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Different55 wrote:
I honestly didn't think of being maf target. Rip
Trust me, you are a target. There's a specific person trying to kill you. Them killing you is my lose condition and I will commit suicide after it happens. I think that person is marco. It doesn't appear that anyone else besides mafia has a killing ability, so I'm pretty sure it's him. Unfortunately your death by any other means (mafia or lynching) appears to be totally fine, so unfortunately I can't say I completely trust you, either. I just need marco to not kill you.
If there are any protective roles, please protect kirb-
I have a hindrance, in which I'm not allowed to accept any help bc I'm 2 kool 4 skool
Well nevermind about that. Alright how about if there are any roleblocking roles left, please block marco. If I'm wrong about marco, then I'll be killing myself tonight.
!unvote
!vote marco
what
I announced I was vigillante and were going to shoot Pyromaniac
Pyromaniac has died
...
Different, trying hard on getting me hanged
This doesnt mean you arent a SK. A serial killer can be like: Hur hur im gonna kill this guy. He died so i can kill ppl. but its sitll a serial killer, just with a vigilante disguise.

as for Luka507 I trully believe he has some evil behind him. He has always tried to change votes on other people, and now he is doing it on me.
let me reply for your dumbness luka
(you should stop playing mafia)
Luka504 wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Trust me, you are a target. There's a specific person trying to kill you.
WOW DIFFERENT U DINGUS.
1. THERE IS A SERIAL KILLER. If what you are saying is true, that means there is a killing role. With the goal of killing Bruce.
How do you know there is a SK and goal is killing Bruce? Are you one...? You just told that the goal of the SK is to KILL BRUCE, and nobody else had that information anywhere. Luka...
Different55: There's a specific person trying to kill you.
There's a specific person trying to kill you.
There's a specific person trying to kill you.
There's a specific person trying to kill you.
There's a specific person trying to kill you.
There's a specific person trying to kill you.
If you flipping knew there was someone trying to murder Bruce WHY DID U DECLINE MY THEORY.
How am I confirmed SK? You sound pretty serious here. ... Nothing confirms I am a SK... And I declined your theory because I honestly don't believe your theory.
Message wasnt directed to you.
2. Now that you revealed you are gonna suicide if Bruce dies, now he is pretty much a guranteed target. SMART MOVE.
What...? So Different55 will suicide if Bruce Dies... Why
I dunno. Some dumb rules Onjit made up.
3. If you knew there was someone after Bruce, why would either of you reveal his identity? Its like you are silently gamethrowing.
Differen55 wrote:
I think that person is marco. It doesn't appear that anyone else besides mafia has a killing ability, so I'm pretty sure it's him.
Omg
Is that.....
What i think it is?
ACTUAL FLIPPING IDEAS AND ACTUAL THEORIES!?
Finaly you have some actual ideas that arent: This guy lurks hes a mafia.
What the hell is your point here?
You are just following Different55 with no reassons whatsoever, and I pretty much confirmed I am the vigilante by telling I was gonna shoot Pyro and he died.
Honestly, this is the sort of information i was needing to make a vote.
The fact you MIGHT be hiding behind a vigilante mask still exists.
!unvote
!vote marco
*Cries*
Please NEVER play mafia EVER again
Luka504 wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Unfortunately your death by any other means (mafia or lynching) appears to be totally fine, so unfortunately I can't say I completely trust you, either.
Well okay. So if we lynch marco, the Serial Killer guy,
Bruce/Kirby is just a citizen at best?
Well okay that at least has a few more confirmed townies.
What confirms I am a SK??? Holy crap Luka you are really trusting Different with no reasson whatsoever.
Also Kirby claiming Bruce confirms him as townie and I claiming vig and confirming it doesnt confirm? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THAT DUMB
Yes i am thanks for noticing.
Also, do you hear anyone counterclaiming Bruce?
...
Thats wut i thought.
Different55 wrote:
Luka504 wrote:
If he flips town, ita gonna be on you different.
Did you not read my post? You don't have to worry about that. If I'm wrong about marco, then the real brucekiller will kill kirby tonight and I'm dead. If I'm right about marco but nobody does anything about it, he'll kill kirby and I'm dead. My life is on the line here.
As far as his actual alignment, I think he's probably independent, like me. It'd be weird to have a vig role whose win condition was to kill a town member, unless Kirby is actually mafia.
I don't get you.
You basically tell I told that my objective was to kill town...????
SINCE WHEN
Only because I killed a townie that was being a complete idiot, doesnt mean I am evil.
Okay, I did wrong -.- But I'm seeking mafia.
Also:
My role's name is Vigilante.
I win with the town and I have 3 bullets. I used one already on pyro so I have two left, and I may "ATTEMPT" to shoot, wich means there is a JailKeeper and a GodFather.
I don't die or lose ability to shoot by killing town members.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:53:15

Also this makes me wonder:
Different55: You are Bruces protector, or thats what you claim.
This is making me curious: Shouldnt you have some sort of abilites?
All you said is your goal of Kirby not being skd. Its making me feel weird a protector has no night abilites

Zumza

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 21:54:35

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Here is my new theory.
Luka IS the Bruce Killer.
Since different has started talking about I possibly be a SK, he started pointing fingers at me.
!unvote
!vote Luka507
Luka, tell me your role or I will shoot you
also altought this is claiming defeat I pretty much think town lost by this point.
I already have a mafia list made with reassons, but meh why would I show it here, people think I am a SK, wont believe me, will lynch me, and then when they realize they screwd up they wont even take a look at the list...
rip

Nice threatening, but you have no bullets.
You ,,shot,, a townie remember?
I dont believe you can shoot again.
Though, believe it or nah. Im just a citizen.
You probably dont but eh.

Luka504 · 2016-06-07 22:09:06

Kubapolish wrote:

u will regret this

Im sorry omg i had to do it.

kubapolish

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 06:59:16

Oh
meh
geeeeeeeeewd
Kubapolish was a citizen!? Ozmzsmg

No one picked up dat phone

BUT I CALLED IT.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 07:31:35

Also. Look at how much i was right about!
-I knew lynching someone beacuse of lack of information was bad
-I knew there had to be Serial Killers.
-I knew Jawapa had more investigations.
-If Diff was still alive i would flipping murder him for lynching Kuba
-I was wrong about marco though. Sorry bout that.
Ok now. Being pretty much the only active person who didnt vote for Kuba, i would like to think i just confirmed myself as a citizen. Since if i was evil, i would have voted for him. Easy as that.
Ok now, the town is pretty much deep into quicksand.
I wanna lynch the people who voted for Kubapolish.
Maxi, Zumza, marco, Jawapa, Creature, Kirby, Unau and EvilBunny.
Since like, 3 people died and excluding the vigilante.
Maxi, Zumza, Creature, Unau and EvilBunneh.
You ALL followed the bandwagon without any real reasons. You all stated ,,Hes lurkin zomg,, and voted for him.
Im suspicious of Creature the most.
You are playing differently. You are very inactive and any posts you DID make dont seem like they were made by our aggresive townie Creature.
Its not like you cant be active. Wanna know why? Well i checked the last time certain lurkers came to the forums. When i kept checking yours, you WERE visiting the forums, but NOT posting in this game.
!vote Creature
With 9 alive it would take 5 people for majority.
-5 Townies
-3 Mafias
-1 Murderer
Oh great. A lylo situation.

kubapolish

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 07:37:16

Also no one vote for Creature.
I want him to defend himself first.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 10:43:45

I would like people to claim roles.
Im a citizen. Now that at least i got some town cred, im gonna say the following.
The town is in a pretty bad spot.
We have 5 townies, 3 are citizens and 2 are a PR. Marco and someone else.
How do i know there is another PR? Read Bruces rolecard. ,,You wont accept help from anybody,,. That means there MUST be some protective role.
3 of them are mafias.
We also have a Serial Killer kinda role, and if he claims i promise i will let him live untill the end of the game (You arent our priority lynch anyways and you already won.)

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 11:46:54

AlphaJon wrote:

I'm claiming vig
Well in all seriousness my role is not worth claiming for, because it will almost certainly backfire, like it did in almost every previous game so far.

Dude, you do indeed realize we are in a situation where if we dont lynch anyone we are screwed badly.
I need everyone to claim a role

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 13:57:43

Maxi123 wrote:

not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role

Well thats the point. If everyone claims a role, whether citizen or PR, we get some extra information to go on.
Theres like 3 citizens. If 5 people claim, 2 of dem are liars.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 14:09:52

maxi123 wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Maxi123 wrote:
not to mention everyone can easily lie about their role
Well thats the point. If everyone claims a role, whether citizen or PR, we get some extra information to go on.
Theres like 3 citizens. If 5 people claim, 2 of dem are liars.
and how do you plan to detect the lie? moreover how do you know theres exactly 3 citizens?

Luka504 wrote:

I would like people to claim roles.
Im a citizen. Now that at least i got some town cred, im gonna say the following.
The town is in a pretty bad spot.
We have 5 townies, 3 are citizens and 2 are a PR. Marco and someone else.
How do i know there is another PR? Read Bruces rolecard. ,,You wont accept help from anybody,,. That means there MUST be some protective role.
3 of them are mafias.
We also have a Serial Killer kinda role, and if he claims i promise i will let him live untill the end of the game (You arent our priority lynch anyways and you already won.)

Who needs to read anyways

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 19:57:14

Im gonna trust maxi on dis one.
If ANY of you flipping lynch him. I will do EVERYTHING I CAN AND HAVE YOU LYNCHED.
Bruce Killer isnt our priority lynch right now.
We need to get the mafia number down. Maxi can serve as a second vigilante, which we REALLY need at this point.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 20:00:40

Also i distrust Creature badly.
He is playing differently. I dont like it.
But im gonna let him live for now.
I want to lynch Zumza the most.
Reason why coming soon.

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 21:15:04

Creature wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
Also i distrust Creature badly.
He is playing differently. I dont like it.
But im gonna let him live for now.
I want to lynch Zumza the most.
Reason why coming soon.
"Oh he's playing different, he must be mafia."

You were playing differently last game.
Mind stating what was your role then ;* ?

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 21:29:50

Why Zumza is supicious:

Zumza wrote:

!vote JaWapa
Im totally into this bandwagon!

Mhm. Bandwagoning much.

Zumza wrote:

I just read the topic.
You are making a big mistake, Im the vig.

Apparently everyone forgot this claim. I doubt this is a case of meatshielding, since Zumza isnt that experienced to use those tactics.

Zumza wrote:

!vote SmmityW is the only one whom I would vote.
SmittyW is our best lynch in my opinion.

Yup. Lynch dem townies.

Zumza wrote:

As theres no way to prove JaWapas true role: I will
!vote Kuba
As if Kuba slips town JaWapa would be held accountable.

Oh you voted for Kuba, yeah great ;>

Zumza wrote:

Lets see what Creatures says shall we?
!vote Creature

Yay for more bandwagoning.

Zumza wrote:

!vote maxi123
I already had a read on him.

Oh dont play that game with me, in your ,,reads,, you never suspected him!
You are just lynching him beacuse you need to get your only threat out of de way.

Zumza wrote:

But for now I say we should take him on our side.

Ok this is actuly some townish behavior, so it helps u a bit.
I still dont trust you.
!Vote Zumza

There are 5 townies, 3 mafias and 1 neutral (maxi)
If we lynch Maxi, this is gonna happen:
4 townies vs 3 mafia.
Marco is gonna be so dead.
If we dont lynch anyone:
We could end up killing one or two of the mafias through our killing roles.
Yeah which scenario do you preffer?

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 22:45:36

You might be onto something maxi.

Creature wrote:

I am going to claim.
I am a 1-shot Follower, I can, once per game, check what action someone used (if they used any).
I decided to follow maxi123 because I felt he was a PR seeing how more actively he was playing.
Onjit said maxi123 used a killing ability. It's not vigilante, so it has to be mafia or brucekiller.
!vote maxi123

Oh but this is just covered in contradictions.
First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?
Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.
And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,
Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic.
Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.
You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,
!vote Creature

Luka504 · 2016-06-10 06:12:19

Wow Creature.
This has more contradictios than the last part.

Creature wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?
N2, he seemed to have a power role and I was getting paranoid of him.
Oh you did now? You were getting paranoid he was a mafia PR? Your earlier post begs to differ.
Creature wrote:
I believe Maxi to be town.
And its not like maxi ever did to get your atention.
N2 also doesnt help you in any favor. If you REALLY were 1-shot you needed to make it count, so i doubt you would check maxi, the towniest of townies at that time.
Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.
Math sucks and is often used by scum to disprove guilties by claiming "oh it's too unlikely he found mafia N1"
Nice reasoning, but that doesnt mean the chance is smaller than my...... ugh....
Your chance of checking Maxi is still below 7%.
And since you had no reason to do so, this leaves you to pure chance of random-checking.
And wih just one check, you wouldnt want to waste them on maxi, now would you?
And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,
Mafia PR because I doubt there's another town PR around.
Why did you think he was mafia again?
Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic. Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.
Oh look, assuming things
Oh look, that comment doesnt change anything.
You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,
What if I claimed citizen? You wouldn't believe either way.

Honestly if you just said citizen, i would have trusted you more. But ye didnt.

Luka504 · 2016-06-10 06:22:05

AlphaJon wrote:

I find weird the fact that Maxi didn't even try to deny Creature's claim on him. I mean, if I was him I'd at least try to make people believe Creature lies, for example by saying that he's a mafia trying to get a town lynched, or just saying he doesn't have the role he claims. Because tbh a 1-shot follower is a weak role, especially when you compare it to a 3-shot vig (3!!).
I have doubts about the 1-shot.
Yet you do nothing about it.
No questions no assumpitions
NOTHING
Judging by Onjit's player list Evilbunny is alive, but he's not posting much.
Bobithan didn't even post in D3.
I also remembered Jawapa's post about not getting a result on Zumza. This puts Zumza out of the scumlist for me.
Doesnt mean so. Jawapa has an ability to check if someone has the ability to kill.
Zumza could be a mafia PR, like a consort, but consorts are in the clear since they cannot kill anyone.
Could be wrong though.
I don't consider Luka as townish. His pushing for claims and a Zumza lynch is odd. (also now the recent switch on creature?)
Oh go ahead, lynch me.
Doom the town.
I'll keep my vote on Unau.
I dont think Unau is mafia, remember game 5(?), he was behaving weirdly, but was still just a citizen.
Though who knows?
I can't understand the Creature votes right now. Need explanations.
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