Mafia 9 Game Thread (MAFIA + MAXI WIN!!!)

Luka504 · 2016-06-09 22:45:36

You might be onto something maxi.

Creature wrote:

I am going to claim.
I am a 1-shot Follower, I can, once per game, check what action someone used (if they used any).
I decided to follow maxi123 because I felt he was a PR seeing how more actively he was playing.
Onjit said maxi123 used a killing ability. It's not vigilante, so it has to be mafia or brucekiller.
!vote maxi123

Oh but this is just covered in contradictions.
First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?
Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.
And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,
Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic.
Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.
You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,
!vote Creature

Creature · 2016-06-09 22:49:54

I checked N2

Creature · 2016-06-09 22:54:58

Luka504 wrote:

First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?

N2, he seemed to have a power role and I was getting paranoid of him.

Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.

Math sucks and is often used by scum to disprove guilties by claiming "oh it's too unlikely he found mafia N1"

And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,

Mafia PR because I doubt there's another town PR around.

Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic. Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.

Oh look, assuming things

You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,

What if I claimed citizen? You wouldn't believe either way.

Creature · 2016-06-09 22:57:03

ALSO, for those voting me. Do YOU realise this is MyLo?

maxi123 is free to shoot anyone he wants if we mislynch today, taking out the majority from town and getting his win on kingmaker.

AlphaJon · 2016-06-10 00:05:24

I find weird the fact that Maxi didn't even try to deny Creature's claim on him. I mean, if I was him I'd at least try to make people believe Creature lies, for example by saying that he's a mafia trying to get a town lynched, or just saying he doesn't have the role he claims. Because tbh a 1-shot follower is a weak role, especially when you compare it to a 3-shot vig (3!!).
I have doubts about the 1-shot.

Judging by Onjit's player list Evilbunny is alive, but he's not posting much.
Bobithan didn't even post in D3.
I also remembered Jawapa's post about not getting a result on Zumza. This puts Zumza out of the scumlist for me.
I don't consider Luka as townish. His pushing for claims and a Zumza lynch is odd. (also now the recent switch on creature?)

I'll keep my vote on Unau.

I can't understand the Creature votes right now. Need explanations.

TaskManager · 2016-06-10 00:06:06

Creature wrote:

ALSO, for those voting me. Do YOU realise this is MyLo?

i do, i can unvote if it will be neccessary
is that an attempt to lighten the load on yourself?

Creature wrote:

maxi123 is free to shoot anyone he wants if we mislynch today, taking out the majority from town and getting his win

trying to get attention away from yourself eh
i already said:

maxi123 wrote:

i know you people think i will betray town but theres no gain in betrayal for me, i dont really see how i can win now

you seem to be pushing really hard against me

Creature wrote:

on kingmaker.

what could that even mean

Creature wrote:

What if I claimed citizen? You wouldn't believe either way.

i maybe would because facts wouldnt point against you then

what can you say about my previous post by the way?
please dont ignore it

Creature · 2016-06-10 00:12:44

Maxi123, your point about me being mafia who attacked you is bad.

You say it was N1.
What I was doing D2? Town reading you instead of pushing for your lynch?

Creature · 2016-06-10 00:23:38

For those with doubts on the 1-shot, that's really it, I believe Onjit wanted to make a Gunsmith and a Follower without making them a powerful duo.

TaskManager · 2016-06-10 01:11:33

Creature wrote:

your point about me being mafia who attacked you is bad.

lol

Creature wrote:

You say it was N1.
What I was doing D2? Town reading you instead of pushing for your lynch?

"town reading" woah that totally confirms youre not mafia
you said you "checked" me N2 so before that you didnt know for sure whether i could be SK? besides that there was a bandwagon on kuba built up already so why would you give up on that and go for other targets

Creature · 2016-06-10 01:34:34

I wasn't expecting a SK and I was slightly town reading you (kuba wasn't automatically the lynch, could've pushed you at any moment), that doesn't confirm me as town but that disproves your N1 theory, I only checked you N2.

Onjit · 2016-06-10 02:44:25

Votecount

[2] Creature: Maxi123, Luka504
[1] Luka504: marcoantonimsantos
[1] Unau: AlphaJon
[1] Maxi123: Creature

5 votes needed for majority.

Luka504 · 2016-06-10 06:12:19

Wow Creature.
This has more contradictios than the last part.

Creature wrote:

Luka504 wrote:
First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?
N2, he seemed to have a power role and I was getting paranoid of him.
Oh you did now? You were getting paranoid he was a mafia PR? Your earlier post begs to differ.
Creature wrote:
I believe Maxi to be town.
And its not like maxi ever did to get your atention.
N2 also doesnt help you in any favor. If you REALLY were 1-shot you needed to make it count, so i doubt you would check maxi, the towniest of townies at that time.
Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.
Math sucks and is often used by scum to disprove guilties by claiming "oh it's too unlikely he found mafia N1"
Nice reasoning, but that doesnt mean the chance is smaller than my...... ugh....
Your chance of checking Maxi is still below 7%.
And since you had no reason to do so, this leaves you to pure chance of random-checking.
And wih just one check, you wouldnt want to waste them on maxi, now would you?
And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,
Mafia PR because I doubt there's another town PR around.
Why did you think he was mafia again?
Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic. Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.
Oh look, assuming things
Oh look, that comment doesnt change anything.
You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,
What if I claimed citizen? You wouldn't believe either way.

Honestly if you just said citizen, i would have trusted you more. But ye didnt.

Luka504 · 2016-06-10 06:22:05

AlphaJon wrote:

I find weird the fact that Maxi didn't even try to deny Creature's claim on him. I mean, if I was him I'd at least try to make people believe Creature lies, for example by saying that he's a mafia trying to get a town lynched, or just saying he doesn't have the role he claims. Because tbh a 1-shot follower is a weak role, especially when you compare it to a 3-shot vig (3!!).
I have doubts about the 1-shot.
Yet you do nothing about it.
No questions no assumpitions
NOTHING
Judging by Onjit's player list Evilbunny is alive, but he's not posting much.
Bobithan didn't even post in D3.
I also remembered Jawapa's post about not getting a result on Zumza. This puts Zumza out of the scumlist for me.
Doesnt mean so. Jawapa has an ability to check if someone has the ability to kill.
Zumza could be a mafia PR, like a consort, but consorts are in the clear since they cannot kill anyone.
Could be wrong though.
I don't consider Luka as townish. His pushing for claims and a Zumza lynch is odd. (also now the recent switch on creature?)
Oh go ahead, lynch me.
Doom the town.
I'll keep my vote on Unau.
I dont think Unau is mafia, remember game 5(?), he was behaving weirdly, but was still just a citizen.
Though who knows?
I can't understand the Creature votes right now. Need explanations.
READ
THE
POSTS

AlphaJon · 2016-06-10 06:58:31

Oh man replying would be way easier if you didn't reply inside the quotes.

Luka504 wrote:

Yet you do nothing about it.
No questions no assumpitions
NOTHING

Because I'm not Maxi and this wasn't my job to defend him?

Luka504 wrote:

Doesnt mean so. Jawapa has an ability to check if someone has the ability to kill.
Zumza could be a mafia PR, like a consort, but consorts are in the clear since they cannot kill anyone.
Could be wrong though.

Consorts can kill, just like about every mafia in every mafia game.

Luka504 wrote:

Oh go ahead, lynch me.
Doom the town.

Stop exaggerating things. What I mean is that you consider yourself as "the towniest towny player of all the townies" and you tend to rely on that to get your points across. (Eg the several times where you say "I have townscred" combined with not lynching Kuba)

Luka504 wrote:

I dont think Unau is mafia, remember game 5(?), he was behaving weirdly, but was still just a citizen.
Though who knows?

In game 5(was it 5?) he kept only saying complete nonsense gibberish. Here, you can understand his posts. I'm reading him the same way I do usually with people on mafia, and his ppst don't look legit town from my point of view.

Luka504 wrote:

READ
THE
POSTS

Don't worry I'm reading them. I'd just like something else than "I don't believe his claim" for creature.

realmaster42 · 2016-06-10 10:00:04

GET MAXI FIRST, BUT LUKA IS WORRYING

Luka504 wrote:

Why Zumza is supicious:
Zumza wrote:
!vote JaWapa
Im totally into this bandwagon!
Mhm. Bandwagoning much.
It was obviously sarcasm... ("Im totally")
Zumza wrote:
I just read the topic.
You are making a big mistake, Im the vig.
Apparently everyone forgot this claim. I doubt this is a case of meatshielding, since Zumza isnt that experienced to use those tactics.
Another sarcasm, wich Luka didn't grow up enough to distinguish it
Zumza wrote:
!vote SmmityW is the only one whom I would vote.
SmittyW is our best lynch in my opinion.
Yup. Lynch dem townies.
How do you know he was SmittyW by that time? Ahhhhhhh, maybe you have a team?
Zumza wrote:
As theres no way to prove JaWapas true role: I will
!vote Kuba
As if Kuba slips town JaWapa would be held accountable.
Oh you voted for Kuba, yeah great ;>
Because of Jawapa's investigation claims
Zumza wrote:
Lets see what Creatures says shall we?
!vote Creature
Yay for more bandwagoning.
"Lets see what Creatures says" - you cant understand it can you? He was pressure voting Creature like he usually does
Zumza wrote:
!vote maxi123
I already had a read on him.
Oh dont play that game with me, in your ,,reads,, you never suspected him!
You are just lynching him beacuse you need to get your only threat out of de way.
Hey wow wow wow, you are defending maxi123 much here
I don't really understand how maxi isnt a threat to you... I mean like, he is the Serial Killer
Zumza wrote:
But for now I say we should take him on our side.

Ok this is actuly some townish behavior, so it helps u a bit.
I still dont trust you.
!Vote Zumza
Ok your reassons are pathetic tho
There are 5 townies, 3 mafias and 1 neutral (maxi)
How do you know there are 3 mafias!!!??? ARE YOU A MAFIA!!??
If we lynch Maxi, this is gonna happen:
4 townies vs 3 mafia.
Again, how do you know its 3 mafias, or 4 townies exactly!?
Marco is gonna be so dead.
I'm going to be dead. Thanks for announcing killing me.
If we dont lynch anyone:
We could end up killing one or two of the mafias through our killing roles.
Yeah which scenario do you preffer?

---*reads more*---

maxi123 wrote:

i have rethought things and i'll say that i can't trust creature's claim.
look, on night 1 there were 2 kills: pyro was shot by marco and proc was killed by me
which means mafia's kill failed. mafia either:
- picked a target which got healed that night
- picked same target as i or marco did
- picked me
there is most likely no doctor or other protective role (at least because then kirby would be saved at night 2) and with 14 non-mafias a coincidence of 1 player picked twice is very unlikely. so it is the latter. which means ever since N1 mafia knew i am immune to night kills. they couldn't yet tell which exactly role i had (i could be bulletproof), maybe they could because of 2 non-mafia night kills, this is not the point.
however after all the fuss with existence of a serial killer and diff55's death they realised that i am most likely an SK and there is a pair of neutrals (diff55 vs maxi123) similarly to game 8
this allowed creature to quickly come up with some fake claim, put me out as a criminal and himself as a hero of the town.
result: mafia gets rid of their biggest threat with town's help while 1 mafia member becomes confirmed town and loved by everyone. double profit.
why not we just lynch you and get mafia killed?
!vote Creature

Luka504 wrote:

You might be onto something maxi.
Creature wrote:
I am going to claim.
I am a 1-shot Follower, I can, once per game, check what action someone used (if they used any).
I decided to follow maxi123 because I felt he was a PR seeing how more actively he was playing.
Onjit said maxi123 used a killing ability. It's not vigilante, so it has to be mafia or brucekiller.
!vote maxi123
Oh but this is just covered in contradictions.
First off all, when did you check Maxi? N1 or N2?
Either way, i doubt it. You do indeed realize what your chance of finding out maxi was?
1/15. Using the power of math thats roughly 6,66% ~ 7%.
And you had no reason to check him. You said was ,,Yeah hes active, hes a PR,,
Also 1-shot? Yeah sorry Jawapa tried the same tactic. Jawapa was gunsmith tho
Suprisingly i dont beleive you lied in your post. You did what Different did.
You took advantage of your role, you really are some follower role, but since normally there is nothing with the description, you can claim freely, just erase the ,,Your allies are X and Y,,
!vote Creature

Luka507 has yet AGAIN proved to be a VILLAGE IDIOT or an opportunistic!
What if he is actually mafia...?
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Let's all just realize maxi123 is a threat right now, and from those people:

Maxi123
Creature
Unau
Luka504
marcoantonimsantos
Bobithan
Evilbunny
Zumza
Kingfdamt6579/AlphaJon

someone has to be evil.
So priority lynch is on top and below is town

Maxi123
Luka507
Bobithan
Creature -- Unsure
Unau -- Unsure
Evilbunny
Zumza
Kingfdamt6579/AlphaJon
marcoantonimsantos

watch it being true

realmaster42 · 2016-06-10 10:02:27

Serial Killers are immune tho
I may attempt to shoot but I can't kill immunes
pls lynch maxi NOW

!unvote
!vote maxi123

Zumza · 2016-06-10 10:40:53

So we have: Maxi123, Creature, Unau, Luka, Marco, Bobithan, EvilBunny, Zumza, AlphaJon
Lets reduce it to people who we aren't sure what their role are: Unau, Luka, Bobithan, EvilBunny, AlphaJon
Assuming that 3 of them are mafia this means we are 5 townies.
Idk if nobody noticed but a lot of role cards has a notice of role block. So there has to be an Escort or a Consort.
If Sk kills a town member along with mafia, theres no way Town will win. Seeing Maxi's offence on Creature now make me think we can't trust him.
So I suggest to lynch Maxi, since is the only way Town will have a chance.

realmaster42

Zumza · 2016-06-10 10:44:57

There are a very few votes needed to lynch somebody today so its very easy to hammer for mafia, I suggest you until the end of the day to keep votes at a maximum of 1 vote per suspect.

Zumza · 2016-06-10 11:56:24

Bobithan, Good Morning! Mind saying something?

TaskManager, AlphaJon, Unau, kubapolish

Luka504 · 2016-06-10 12:37:01

marco wrote:

Luka507 has yet AGAIN proved to be a VILLAGE IDIOT or an opportunistic!

Yep, im the village idiot who apparently knew more than the town.
-I knew Kuba was innocent
-I flipping knew there were Serial Killers D2.
-I knew lynching beacuse someone is lurking was gonna backfire.
You marco are the real village idiot. You shoot like you need to waste all 3 bullets in the first 3 days. Well you dont.
And then you start going around lynching randomly beacuse, being a confirmed townie, you cant be counter-accused.

Honestly, i doubt the town is gonna win this game.
Why? Beacuse only 5 people in this town are sane. And since 3 of them already died, that means only Maxi and me know what we are doing.
I proved i can be a good leader for the town, but i dont have the seal of approval Processor has. So no one listens.
Now? I dont care. Do whatever you want. Town was dead from the start

kubapolish

AlphaJon · 2016-06-10 12:46:05

Zumza wrote:

Bobithan, Good Morning! Mind saying something?

I suggest Bobithan and Evilbunny get shot if they don't participate.

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Maxi123
Luka504 EvilBunny
Bobithan
Creature Unau -- Unsure
Unau Creature -- Unsure
EvilBunny Luka504
Zumza
Kingfdamt6579/AlphaJon
marcoantonimsantos
watch it being true

Fixed that for you

Last edited by AlphaJon (Today 13:37:42) This is a fake edit

Zumza, kubapolish, Creature

TaskManager · 2016-06-10 12:48:24

good morning people not so many new posts i see

AlphaJon wrote:

I find weird the fact that Maxi didn't even try to deny Creature's claim on him. I mean, if I was him I'd at least try to make people believe Creature lies, for example by saying that he's a mafia trying to get a town lynched, or just saying he doesn't have the role he claims.

eh i decided it would be worth giving a shot and trying to negotiate with town instead

can u ppl reply after quotes not inside them or at least do color highlighting for your responses thanks

Creature wrote:

that doesn't confirm me as town but that disproves your N1 theory, I only checked you N2.

maxi123 wrote:

after all the fuss with existence of a serial killer and diff55's death they realised that i am most likely an SK and there is a pair of neutrals (diff55 vs maxi123) similarly to game 8

all the fuss happened on day 2 and night 2

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

How do you know there are 3 mafias!!!??? ARE YOU A MAFIA!!??

are you dumb? its obvious theres 3 mafias in this setup. if it'd be 4 town would already lose (4v4v1) if it'd be 2 mafia would be underpowered

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

I'm going to be dead. Thanks for announcing killing me.

are you double dumb? do you even read:

maxi123 wrote:

you realise that amongst town theres just 4 citizens (creature is pretty much a citizen now since he used his ability) and you with 1 bullet
try to guess who will be mafia's target at night, would you
theres a small chance i can save your **** if i will target the mafia member that will perform the night kill though i dont know how the night kills work in that case

marcoantonimsantos wrote:

Maxi123
Luka507
Bobithan
Creature -- Unsure
Unau -- Unsure
Evilbunny
Zumza
Kingfdamt6579/AlphaJon
marcoantonimsantos

you will doom this town. you already pushed it deep enough with your town kills and youre just making it worse

Zumza wrote:

Seeing Maxi's offence on Creature now make me think we can't trust him.

obvious siding with creature. lol thats such a dumb reason to distrust me, am i not allowed to scumhunt now? think of some more original reasoning to defend creature, come on

Zumza wrote:

There are a very few votes needed to lynch somebody today so its very easy to hammer for mafia, I suggest you until the end of the day to keep votes at a maximum of 1 vote per suspect.

there are 2/5 votes on creature and mafia can hammer now but somewhy they dont.. hmmm i wonder what could that mean??? /s

TaskManager · 2016-06-10 12:51:00

AlphaJon wrote:

I suggest Bobithan and Evilbunny get shot if they don't participate.

i mean i can do that for town but u ppl will probs lynch me lol

Zumza · 2016-06-10 13:31:56

maxi123 wrote:

there are 2/5 votes on creature and mafia can hammer now but somewhy they dont.. hmmm i wonder what could that mean??? /s

Probably because someone of them is mafia?

TaskManager · 2016-06-10 15:22:11

Zumza wrote:

maxi123 wrote:
there are 2/5 votes on creature and mafia can hammer now but somewhy they dont.. hmmm i wonder what could that mean??? /s
Probably because someone of them is mafia?

nah, because mafia wouldnt vote up their teammate

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