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#376 2016-08-04 00:37:31

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
maxi123 wrote:

That's what happens when you choose not to display your rep total on every post. It's still totally visible for anyone who goes on your rep page and adds it up, but a lot of people got butthurt about rep on the old forums because of it. Like how if you have 2000 posts, people see you as more trustworthy than someone with 40 posts. Post count doesn't actually mean much but people still read into it and so people still get butthurt over it.

But if they see someone with 5000 posts and 5 rep then they would be less trustworthy than someone who has 100 posts and 5 rep - reps need to be diluted to represent posts before rep.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

Ikr, I agree having another way to rate people is a bad idea.


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#377 2016-08-04 00:37:39

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
maxi123 wrote:

That's what happens when you choose not to display your rep total on every post. It's still totally visible for anyone who goes on your rep page and adds it up, but a lot of people got butthurt about rep on the old forums because of it. Like how if you have 2000 posts, people see you as more trustworthy than someone with 40 posts. Post count doesn't actually mean much but people still read into it and so people still get butthurt over it.

But if they see someone with 5000 posts and 5 rep then they would be less trustworthy than someone who has 100 posts and 5 rep - reps need to be diluted to represent posts before rep.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

sadly that's entirely true. there's no good way to make a system to determine someone's reliability, as everything can be flawed or exploited.. Numbers even more readily so.

edit: I say sadly because that'd be a fun metric to actually have be reliable

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#378 2016-08-04 00:40:53

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
maxi123 wrote:

That's what happens when you choose not to display your rep total on every post. It's still totally visible for anyone who goes on your rep page and adds it up, but a lot of people got butthurt about rep on the old forums because of it. Like how if you have 2000 posts, people see you as more trustworthy than someone with 40 posts. Post count doesn't actually mean much but people still read into it and so people still get butthurt over it.

But if they see someone with 5000 posts and 5 rep then they would be less trustworthy than someone who has 100 posts and 5 rep - reps need to be diluted to represent posts before rep.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

Ikr, I agree having another way to rate people is a bad idea.

Oh wait, rep system.


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#379 2016-08-04 00:45:30

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

I don't think reputation should be implemented.
The reason why woots have worked so well, is because people are unable to leave negative reputation & comments and turn the situation into a war.
Just like people make **** quality posts to bump their post count, they effectively rep themselves as well.

That, and it's another additional thing to moderate.

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#380 2016-08-04 00:51:39

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

maxi123 wrote:

option to disable viewing rep


I didn't like the big picture. Guess we're back to text.

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#381 2016-08-04 02:03:36

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

I think reputation is fun. Nobody should really take it that seriously. Sure, don't just go -repping people for nothing, but in general it's just a cute way to tell people you appreciate (or dislike) their post.


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#382 2016-08-04 02:06:52

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Koya wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:

That's what happens when you choose not to display your rep total on every post. It's still totally visible for anyone who goes on your rep page and adds it up, but a lot of people got butthurt about rep on the old forums because of it. Like how if you have 2000 posts, people see you as more trustworthy than someone with 40 posts. Post count doesn't actually mean much but people still read into it and so people still get butthurt over it.

But if they see someone with 5000 posts and 5 rep then they would be less trustworthy than someone who has 100 posts and 5 rep - reps need to be diluted to represent posts before rep.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

Ikr, I agree having another way to rate people is a bad idea.

Oh wait, rep system.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad


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#383 2016-08-04 03:25:28

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:

But if they see someone with 5000 posts and 5 rep then they would be less trustworthy than someone who has 100 posts and 5 rep - reps need to be diluted to represent posts before rep.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

Ikr, I agree having another way to rate people is a bad idea.

Oh wait, rep system.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad

Rep seems to be that exact platform.

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#384 2016-08-04 04:29:40

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:
Koya wrote:
Koya wrote:
Different55 wrote:

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad, do we really want to be adding features that would accommodate and encourage the people who do that?

Ikr, I agree having another way to rate people is a bad idea.

Oh wait, rep system.

Judging trustworthiness based on numbers is bad

Rep seems to be that exact platform.

That's because that is exactly what it is. It's engineered cancer.


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#385 2016-08-04 05:41:55

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

are we permitted to post pictures in rep as long as they dont break forum rules?


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#386 2016-08-04 16:16:56

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

As long as they aren't unnecessarily huge


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#387 2016-08-05 00:52:58

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

oh yes

rep wars

thanks diff


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#388 2016-08-05 00:55:12

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Ernesdo wrote:

banning me for rep? why not remove the system entirely if you're going to be butthurt?

Break the rules, no matter where you are, and you will be warned. Should I remove the PM system because a raider once PMed people ****? No, that's retarded. I ban the offender and move on with my life.


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#389 2016-08-05 00:55:48

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

diff in one month can you post the person with most rep and person with the least smile smile smile

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#390 2016-08-05 01:01:03

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Pingohits wrote:

diff in one month can you post the person with most rep and person with the least smile smile smile

on that note, can we have another data dump? I'd have some interesting indexes to examine.


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#391 2016-08-05 01:02:41

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

n1kf you should step up your game, diff55 is in the lead with -reps


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#392 2016-08-05 01:04:24

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

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n1kf you should step up your game, diff55 is in the lead with -reps

What are you talking about? Why in the world would I want -reps? Give me +reps everybody!


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#393 2016-08-05 08:23:13

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

why can't you delete your vote in someone's reputation?

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#394 2016-08-05 12:04:16

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Gosha wrote:

why can't you delete your vote in someone's reputation?

just give them an opposite vote to nullify the effect


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#395 2016-08-05 13:12:10

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Koya wrote:

Can the avatars be increased to 184px (maximum without any CSS changes)?

https://i.koya.io/nmdj3X

(By coincidence that is also how big Steam avatars are)

thank u for this, i want to Update my Avatar in a few weeks

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#396 2016-08-05 16:41:18

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

At times I see no point into the reputation feature. People could just troll it and it would be worthless.


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#397 2016-08-05 17:29:43

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

It is worthless imo

If people have ?? rep, you can just click the reputation link and still see their score.
ex: ernesdo is -1


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#398 2016-08-05 17:37:04

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Xfrogman43 wrote:

If people have ?? rep, you can just click the reputation link and still see their score.

That's by design. It's for people who want to avoid being judged right off the bat by their rep but still want to send and receive feedback. Basically people who are butthurt but not that butthurt.


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#399 2016-08-05 19:09:12

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Different55 wrote:
Xfrogman43 wrote:

If people have ?? rep, you can just click the reputation link and still see their score.

That's by design. It's for people who want to avoid being judged right off the bat by their rep but still want to send and receive feedback. Basically people who are butthurt but not that butthurt.

so basically medium level butthurtness?
we might need a butthurt-o-meter so people can determine their butthurt level and set their rep settings accordingly


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#400 2016-08-06 03:05:08

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Re: Update Discussion for forums

Different55 wrote:
Xfrogman43 wrote:

If people have ?? rep, you can just click the reputation link and still see their score.

That's by design. It's for people who want to avoid being judged right off the bat by their rep but still want to send and receive feedback. Basically people who are butthurt but not that butthurt.

i dont see what butthurt has to do with being prejudged just because of rep abuse and mortal enemies


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