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Koya

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I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Let me tell you the story of how I got a mark on my permanent record doing something that would be considered heroic among fellow citizens.

4th February 2013
12:20
I was standing in the line to buy my lunch, walking past the door there stood a small, nerdy, weedy kid with a backpack taller than himself and glasses thick enough to stop bullets, he carried on walking away, his name is Mike.
I bought my lunch, tuna pasta, and walked around school eating before I retreat for the library; during this walk I see Mike being confronted by 2 boys a few years older than him and a year older than me.

21st December 2012
10:05
Mike was pelted with snowballs in the face multiple times.

10th December 2012
15:40
Mike confronted by bullies, runs away.

4th February 2013
12:30
Mike is punched for the first time that I have seen (I'm sure he has been attacked before), he falls to the floor. There are people around but they aren't taking notice; I walk quickly towards him, dazed on the floor, one of the bullies grabs him by the collar. I decide to do something, so I quickly get behind the taller bully and I splatter the tuna down his back and a full force punch to the nose (I broke it), and he stumbles back holding his hand over his bloody nose, I turn to the other bully, in one swift motion like in movies I twist and strike him in the cheek with my elbow. I then casually stand there for a sec, then helped Mike back up, at this moment the Deputy Head walks near then shouts at me, I stood there silently, as if waiting for him to realise what had happened.

Alas no, all he saw was two kids both with facial injuries, so I was dragged away into isolation where even my 'Heroic' acts were ignored, they didn't even consider how I helped Mike. They said to me "If you see something going on tell a teacher, don't get yourself in trouble." (For your information I look like a nerd, a 6'4" nerd, a 6'4" nerd who can defend himself against 5' Chavs)
So I really don't think I deserve this punishment, I know how it is with detentions, they mean nothing so it doesn't stop bullying.

Last edited by Metatron (Feb 4 2013 3:16:53 pm)

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D-rock2308

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

It's funny how almost every school in the U.S. encourages people to take such actions like you have done, to get involved and help and I for one, think violence, only as a last resort, sometimes has to be the way. It seems as if you have may not have looked at another way and went straight to the point. Maybe video tape it one day, then you would have your proof.

I completely stand by your actions, but sometimes rash decisions leave you wide open to ridicule. You needed something to fall back on other than your word. But whatever you go through, you have to ask yourself if you think you made the right decision, and then nothing else matters.

Arceus64

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Your story is my life's story: poor kid's in trouble, bad guys are hurting him, no adults around to help, someone's gotta do something, you take action, you get in trouble and the bad guys get off the hook.

Well, I actually just try to avoid violence at all costs. Unless somebody's in so much trouble it's life-threatening, I try to avoid it. I'll do something, but nothing too drastic.

skullz17

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Wow that kind of stuff doesn't happen in my school. Or at least very rarely.

I wouldn't resort to violence straight away. I would ask them why they are doing it, tell them to stop etc. I guess probably they won't listen, but that's okay because if your like me, always hanging out with friends, then you'll have a lot of support.

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a3person

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Wow that's heroic right there, hopefully they'll reconsider the punishment and maybe Mike will give a testimony to help them reconsider.

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Banana_Venom

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Finn, nothing will happen, you know how it is.

Tako

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

You can't fix problems by stooping to their level. You make situations worse that way, and that is the problem they see in your actions. You took one step forward and three steps back.

But what should you have done? Well, why couldn't you get the deputy's attention? Why couldn't you get a teacher's attention?

Just don't, for the love of all logic and humane reasoning, say that violence is bad and then "fix" violence with more violence.

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treejoe4

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Bring your parents in.

Banana_Venom

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Take it from me, those two guys are not particularly nice (I was going to use other language to describe them, best not to), someone needed to sort them out, so well done Finn <3.

Saintcool

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Because according to then "By retaliating your just as bad as the ones doing the bullying".

Alexthementalone

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Squad did you recognise any witnesses that had saw the situation? If so you should go to the deputy heads office and say that "so and so" saw what happened and then they can explain the situation.

Koya

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

I have explained it to the Head and Dep Head, and they have understood; Nothing bad will happen to me.

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Calicara

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Squad,

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I'm not justifying the bullies actions ok, but I don't think your actions were appropriate either. Standing up for someone doesn't mean blindly going into battle and making a fool of yourself.

The proper action should have been to tell an adult. A bullies worst fear is always their parents, and there was no need for you go out of your way and start punching them in the face.

When you stoop to their level you become the bully yourself.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 5 2013 1:41:26 pm)

Alexthementalone

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Squad,

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I'm not justifying the bullies actions ok, but I don't think your actions were appropriate either. Standing up for someone doesn't mean blindly going into battle and making a fool of yourself.

The proper action should have been to tell an adult. A bullies worst fear is always their parents, and there was no need for you go out of your way and start punching them in the face.

When you stoop to their level you become the bully yourself.

I agree partially :/

Sometimes you have to take situations into your own hands and do what you think is best at handling the situation. There are multiple ways Squad could of acted at that moment. But some people will have different opinions than others on how Squad should of acted when he saw those bullies confronting Mike. So if Squad thought that stooping to there level and having a fight with them was right, then thats his choice. I know Failgirl101 that you think Squad should of acted in a different way when that situation arised. But don't judge Squad by his actions, because maybe Squad thought that having a fight was the last resort to go to stop the bullying. And sometimes it is. All Squad was doing was looking out for a boy who was in a younger year than him. Of course the situation developed into having a fight, but sometimes that is necessary.

Also FailGirl101 you said "Punching them in the face". Did you mean: "Punched the bully in the face"

Anyway thats my opinion.

/Alexthementalone

Koya

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Squad,

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I'm not justifying the bullies actions ok, but I don't think your actions were appropriate either. Standing up for someone doesn't mean blindly going into battle and making a fool of yourself.

The proper action should have been to tell an adult. A bullies worst fear is always their parents, and there was no need for you go out of your way and start punching them in the face.

When you stoop to their level you become the bully yourself.

I agree partially :/

Sometimes you have to take situations into your own hands and do what you think is best at handling the situation. There are multiple ways Squad could of acted at that moment. But some people will have different opinions than others on how Squad should of acted when he saw those bullies confronting Mike. So if Squad thought that stooping to there level and having a fight with them was right, then thats his choice. I know Failgirl101 that you think Squad should of acted in a different way when that situation arised. But don't judge Squad by his actions, because maybe Squad thought that having a fight was the last resort to go to stop the bullying. And sometimes it is. All Squad was doing was looking out for a boy who was in a younger year than him. Of course the situation developed into having a fight, but sometimes that is necessary.

Also FailGirl101 you said "Punching them in the face". Did you mean: "Punched the bully in the face"

Anyway thats my opinion.

/Alexthementalone

It wasn't the first option but all of the other options wouldn't have helped Mike, these bullies have bullied me in the past and a fair few other people. But what is done is done.

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Calicara

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Well I'm not trying to say that Squad is a bad person now, but moreover that you shouldn't use violence as a defense tactic, use it only as a last resort.

Out of all the ways to go about dealing with a situation, fighting would probably be considered the worst. I was a victim of bullying myself in middle school because I had weight issues, I just find the best thing to do is mind your own and stick close to the teachers.

Also, just make sure next time to tell an adult first. They can usually get the situation sorted out in a harmless and civil manner.

Last edited by Calicara (Feb 5 2013 2:03:34 pm)

Koya

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From: The island with those Brits

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Re: I can't see why this is apparently fair.

Well I'm not trying to say that Squad is a bad person now, but moreover that you shouldn't use violence as a defense tactic, use it only as a last resort.

Out of all the ways to go about dealing with a situation, fighting would probably be considered the worst. I was a victim of bullying myself in middle school because I had weight issues, I just find the best thing to do is mind your own and stick close to the teachers.

Also, just make sure next time to tell an adult first. They can usually get the situation sorted out in a harmless and civil manner.

The thing is, watching someone getting punched is different to getting punched myself, and teachers are rubbish at sorting out situations, I bet that if a teacher was where I was then, they would tell the bullies to go away.

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