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demos

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Confusing things.

Whats the most confusing object that you can imagine?
For me it's this:
If you want to know whats so confusing about it, it's a hypercube also known as a tesseract. A tesseract is a four dimensional object. It's so interesting for me because as a three dimensional life form it's not possible for me to understand how it can exist especially its physical nature.

Last edited by demos (Nov 30 2011 10:56:29 am)

ILoveBacon

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Re: Confusing things.

Wow that is confusing...

demos

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Re: Confusing things.

Wow that is confusing...

I know. Thats the reason why i had the idea to post this topic. Whats also very interesting is that the cube net of a 3D cube is 2D his shadow also. But the cube net of a tesseract is 3D.

Jaybm

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that is very confusing 0.0

demos

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The tesseract is a really interesting part of the physic.

ILoveBacon

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How did someone create that!?!?

demos

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Im not sure. Its an computer animated modell but i dont know the creator. But its so: you dont need to understand to do something.

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Twipply

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Re: Confusing things.

I believe what you actually posted there is not a tesseract, but the projection of one into three dimensions.   If you pause the animation and actually focus on the object itself, it's nothing more than two cubes and some extra lines.   Far from confusing indeed.

Maybe not confusing, but some interesting shapes for me are the Mandelbrot set and maybe Gabriel's horn if you're into that kind of thing.

TheGreenTroll

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I don't find it confusing at all?

AwzzomeDude

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I don't find it confusing at all?

a3person

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I don't find it confusing at all?

Then what confuses you, it is a topic of confusing things so why not post something that confuses you?
This is what confuses me even more complicated

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demos

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Re: Confusing things.

I don't find it confusing at all?

Then what confuses you, it is a topic of confusing things so why not post something that confuses you?
This is what confuses me http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/24-cell.gif even more complicated

I think thats a icositetrachoron.
I wanted to change the name to "confusing and interesting things" but after the first replies i didn't wanted to delete the topic. What was interesting for me was the physical nature of the tesseract not just the geometrical. The geometrical part is really not very interesting.

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ILoveBacon

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Re: Confusing things.

I don't find it confusing at all?

Then what confuses you, it is a topic of confusing things so why not post something that confuses you?
This is what confuses me http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/24-cell.gif even more complicated

I dontfind that one confusing but I find the first one confusing...

MrScaniaV8Super

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Yes! That is very confusing.

TheGreenTroll

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I don't find it confusing at all?

Then what confuses you, it is a topic of confusing things so why not post something that confuses you?
This is what confuses me http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/24-cell.gif even more complicated

The first one doesn't confuse me at all, although this one do. But you actually only have to find a pattern, and it stops being so confusing.

Baticon

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Isnt it possible in the real life?
Just get some straws and make the shape.
(Im not sure)

a3person

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Both is possible in real life, you know what also confuses me is that I can see into the past :3. All I have to do is look at the stars.

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xputnameherex

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That is barely what 4D is. The fourth dimension, in itself, is time. 5th is the bending of time, 6th is all possible beginnings to a universe, 7th is all possible endings for a universe, 8th is all possible beginnings to all possible universes, 9th is all possible endings to all possible universes, 10th is everything. 3rd has length width and depth, 2nd has length and width, 1st has length, 0th has a point. That is a very simple way of putting it.

Oh yeah, and the 11th is Chuck Norris, but that's beside the point.

Anyway, I don't find that confusing at all. It's just something that's going bac and forth, you can't find that in 3D, so think of it this way: It doesn't really exist.

As I said about the exorcist face, I tend to see pictures as a bunch of pixels, it seems to be a bit harder for me to make emotions out of them.

Twipply

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That is barely what 4D is. The fourth dimension, in itself, is time. [cut] 0th has a point.

I have a feeling that some of that is garbage.   Do you have a link to back it up?   Also, whether the 4th dimension of space is time or not, that doesn't mean it has to be in all instances.

Oh yeah, and the 11th is Chuck Norris, but that's beside the point.

I dislike that guy.

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I believe there are either 3 dimensions or 27 dimensions. And don't show me a 3 dimensional projection of a 27 dimensional figure.

xputnameherex

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That is barely what 4D is. The fourth dimension, in itself, is time. [cut] 0th has a point.

I have a feeling that some of that is garbage.   Do you have a link to back it up?   Also, whether the 4th dimension of space is time or not, that doesn't mean it has to be in all instances.

Oh yeah, and the 11th is Chuck Norris, but that's beside the point.

I dislike that guy.

Well, as I said, it is just a very basic meaning.

Anyway, I just searched "What are the 10 dimensions" and came up with this

Also, somehow I know you would post about that post. 1smile1

a3person

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Okay so I'm not the only one who can see into the past, anyone can so let's start!
1st: Wait till it's night time
2nd: Look up and find some stars
3rd: Identify how many light years away it is
4th: The amount of light years away it is the amount of years into the past you can see that star in.

So why is that? Light years is the amount of time that it takes for light to reach that time in years. So for example a star is 100 light years away from Earth. So it takes the light 100 years to travel to Earth before you can see it. So if you really want to know what's happening to that star now you must wait 100 years then look at the star.

So...with that being said how can time travel work? I have an idea! We can already travel to the future because we can travel less than the speed of light and we can travel to the past by going faster than the speed of light. So I guess going at the speed of light can pause time. Oh this is so confusing!

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xputnameherex

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Okay so I'm not the only one who can see into the past, anyone can so let's start!
1st: Wait till it's night time
2nd: Look up and find some stars
3rd: Identify how many light years away it is
4th: The amount of light years away it is the amount of years into the past you can see that star in.

So why is that? Light years is the amount of time that it takes for light to reach that time in years. So for example a star is 100 light years away from Earth. So it takes the light 100 years to travel to Earth before you can see it. So if you really want to know what's happening to that star now you must wait 100 years then look at the star.

So...with that being said how can time travel work? I have an idea! We can already travel to the future because we can travel less than the speed of light and we can travel to the past by going faster than the speed of light. So I guess going at the speed of light can pause time. Oh this is so confusing!

Wow, you have absolutely NO idea how teleporting would work.

The only thing that goes faster than the speed of light is quantum physics, but even THAT doesn't go faster.

It teleports.

We have teleported protons.

Yes, real, little, protons. Teleported. By us.

The thing is, human teleportion would require an exact coding of all of our electrons, protons, neutrons, and everything. They would need to be copied into the destination, however.

Basically, don't expect quantum physics (teleporting) to come into practical use any time soon.

Oh yeah, if that coding fails a bit, you disappear. Those neutrons, protons, and electrons basically shatter.

Just don't take a class on Quantum Mechanics if you don't have to...

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Re: Confusing things.

Nothing did. Just a cube.

demos

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Re: Confusing things.

Okay so I'm not the only one who can see into the past, anyone can so let's start!
1st: Wait till it's night time
2nd: Look up and find some stars
3rd: Identify how many light years away it is
4th: The amount of light years away it is the amount of years into the past you can see that star in.

So why is that? Light years is the amount of time that it takes for light to reach that time in years. So for example a star is 100 light years away from Earth. So it takes the light 100 years to travel to Earth before you can see it. So if you really want to know what's happening to that star now you must wait 100 years then look at the star.

So...with that being said how can time travel work? I have an idea! We can already travel to the future because we can travel less than the speed of light and we can travel to the past by going faster than the speed of light. So I guess going at the speed of light can pause time. Oh this is so confusing!

One light year is a distance of 9,5 trillion kilometres. And if you travel with superluminal velocity you will travel to future.
travel less than the speed of light just means that you move slower than light. If you move with almost light speed it will
slow down the time. To travel back to the past it would be needed to use a worm hole which (in theory) leads back to a fixed point in the space time. But that could cause the grandfather paradox because if you are seen by yourself it would change the reality and you can't choose where you land because wormholes just lead to a specific point of space time which can't changed.

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