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Maikel

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Do you think this is possible?

Do you believe it's possible for humans to be able to change into things like magma without being burned and being able to manipulate the element?

Theoretically it is possible (If you want to know how, then let me now.)

Let me know what your opinion is.

Last edited by Maikel (Feb 10 2012 1:41:20 am)

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

I believe it's possible I guess when we have nano bots that can manipulate the atoms (add or take away protons, electrons, and nuetrons) then we'd be able to manipulate everything, and we would perfectly change oceans into fresh water (but not the whole body of ocean).

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xputnameherex

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

That would seem to only work like this:

Step 1. Die

Step 2. Be eroded and mixed in with rocks

Step 3. Sink toward mantle

Step 4. Become magma

Also, you have to further explain what you mean by "manipulate," for two reasons. First, magma is not an element. It is a slurry. Second, Move? Change? Explain.

EDIT: I forgot to add, maybe in the far future it would be possible to "turn into magma" and then be able to survive, however that is a minimum of 50 years in the future. I say 50 because that is how far I and many scientists believe is the farthest we can estimate, beyond that we must wait.

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krubby

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

That would seem to only work like this:

Step 1. Die

Step 2. Be eroded and mixed in with rocks

Step 3. Sink toward mantle

Step 4. Become magma

Also, you have to further explain what you mean by "manipulate," for two reasons. First, magma is not an element. It is a slurry. Second, Move? Change? Explain.

EDIT: I forgot to add, maybe in the far future it would be possible to "turn into magma" and then be able to survive, however that is a minimum of 50 years in the future. I say 50 because that is how far I and many scientists believe is the farthest we can estimate, beyond that we must wait.

I lvoe how people keep saying this guy is dumb and doesn't use logic because he's religious and argued fiercely for Christianity, and yet he's the one who's actually BEING logical and being realistic with all of these crazy ideas people keep saying.

Maikel

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

That would seem to only work like this:

Step 1. Die

Step 2. Be eroded and mixed in with rocks

Step 3. Sink toward mantle

Step 4. Become magma

Also, you have to further explain what you mean by "manipulate," for two reasons. First, magma is not an element. It is a slurry. Second, Move? Change? Explain.

EDIT: I forgot to add, maybe in the far future it would be possible to "turn into magma" and then be able to survive, however that is a minimum of 50 years in the future. I say 50 because that is how far I and many scientists believe is the farthest we can estimate, beyond that we must wait.

By element I mean anything nature related; think Magma, Light, Water, Mud, Sand, Metal, etc...

Bend the element to your liking using it as either self defense or to travel quickly.

Deetz

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Well, light would be theoretically impossible, because it's not matter, it's energy. As for everything else, I think it would glitch up a lot. The "nanobot" idea could change a human into magma, let's say, and they could even change it back, but one atom at a time? Impossible. And Who's to say that these nanobots could get these atoms into the right place again? You could end up with a dog instead of a human, or some inanimate object, or something else intirely. If, by chance, you could get it right, it would be hugely impractical. Sorry for the long post, but that's my say on this topic.

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Who says you can't turn people into bosons if you can turn people into fermions?

xputnameherex

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

That would seem to only work like this:

Step 1. Die

Step 2. Be eroded and mixed in with rocks

Step 3. Sink toward mantle

Step 4. Become magma

Also, you have to further explain what you mean by "manipulate," for two reasons. First, magma is not an element. It is a slurry. Second, Move? Change? Explain.

EDIT: I forgot to add, maybe in the far future it would be possible to "turn into magma" and then be able to survive, however that is a minimum of 50 years in the future. I say 50 because that is how far I and many scientists believe is the farthest we can estimate, beyond that we must wait.

I lvoe how people keep saying this guy is dumb and doesn't use logic because he's religious and argued fiercely for Christianity, and yet he's the one who's actually BEING logical and being realistic with all of these crazy ideas people keep saying.

I never really heard anyone say that... (unless it was behind me back *looks around*)

Actually, my first big argument on this forum was with Twipply over Quantum Physics, that's about as scientific as things get.

My second was over something about te existence of God, Twipply, Sanguine, and a few others were trying to prove to me that God did not exist, and I was trying to prove to them that they couldn't prove anything to me, and I couldn't prove anything to them. So to be honest, I never preached anything. I didn't argue for Christianity, I simply argued that the thread was going nowhere.

Third was over Tebow, that was short lived, because Tebow then got out of the playoffs (yesh).

Also, thank you for being nice to me. 1smile1

That would seem to only work like this:

Step 1. Die

Step 2. Be eroded and mixed in with rocks

Step 3. Sink toward mantle

Step 4. Become magma

Also, you have to further explain what you mean by "manipulate," for two reasons. First, magma is not an element. It is a slurry. Second, Move? Change? Explain.

EDIT: I forgot to add, maybe in the far future it would be possible to "turn into magma" and then be able to survive, however that is a minimum of 50 years in the future. I say 50 because that is how far I and many scientists believe is the farthest we can estimate, beyond that we must wait.

By element I mean anything nature related; think Magma, Light, Water, Mud, Sand, Metal, etc...

Bend the element to your liking using it as either self defense or to travel quickly.

So you mean matter? Still, 50 years. All matter at its simplest is natural material, so you would be explaining all matter.

Well, light would be theoretically impossible, because it's not matter, it's energy. As for everything else, I think it would glitch up a lot. The "nanobot" idea could change a human into magma, let's say, and they could even change it back, but one atom at a time? Impossible. And Who's to say that these nanobots could get these atoms into the right place again? You could end up with a dog instead of a human, or some inanimate object, or something else intirely. If, by chance, you could get it right, it would be hugely impractical. Sorry for the long post, but that's my say on this topic.

No, light does consist of matter. That is why it can be sucked into black holes.

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ILoveBacon

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Well te phrase "Anything is possible is true.""

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Well, light would be theoretically impossible, because it's not matter, it's energy. As for everything else, I think it would glitch up a lot. The "nanobot" idea could change a human into magma, let's say, and they could even change it back, but one atom at a time? Impossible. And Who's to say that these nanobots could get these atoms into the right place again? You could end up with a dog instead of a human, or some inanimate object, or something else intirely. If, by chance, you could get it right, it would be hugely impractical. Sorry for the long post, but that's my say on this topic.

Why is one atom at a time impossible? I think it's possible but extremely time consuming, and there is alot of places where it can go wrong, but let's say we do perfect it, we can make anything from anything, but getting to that point my take centuries.

I do like it that scientists created nanobots to combat cancer, with that same technology they can target any gene to possibly manipulate or drug, so would that mean we could now genetically modify? I would think so, but again there are lots of places where that can go wrong, and perfecting it could take time.

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krubby

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Well, light would be theoretically impossible, because it's not matter, it's energy. As for everything else, I think it would glitch up a lot. The "nanobot" idea could change a human into magma, let's say, and they could even change it back, but one atom at a time? Impossible. And Who's to say that these nanobots could get these atoms into the right place again? You could end up with a dog instead of a human, or some inanimate object, or something else intirely. If, by chance, you could get it right, it would be hugely impractical. Sorry for the long post, but that's my say on this topic.

No, light does consist of matter. That is why it can be sucked into black holes.

Actually, it's energy. However, matter is super condensed energy. So if something is dense enough, then energy gets treated like matter. Also, butts.

xputnameherex

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

Well, light would be theoretically impossible, because it's not matter, it's energy. As for everything else, I think it would glitch up a lot. The "nanobot" idea could change a human into magma, let's say, and they could even change it back, but one atom at a time? Impossible. And Who's to say that these nanobots could get these atoms into the right place again? You could end up with a dog instead of a human, or some inanimate object, or something else intirely. If, by chance, you could get it right, it would be hugely impractical. Sorry for the long post, but that's my say on this topic.

No, light does consist of matter. That is why it can be sucked into black holes.

Actually, it's energy. However, matter is super condensed energy. So if something is dense enough, then energy gets treated like matter. Also, butts.

That's exactly what I meant.

treejoe4

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

No, just no.

Maikel

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

No, just no.

You're a disbeliever, disbelievers are ignorant as to what is possible; ignorance kills.

krubby

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

are ignorant as to what is possible.

Pretty much sums you up, Maikel.

Twipply

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

I imagine being thrown into a pool of magma and other such 'cheats' are not allowed.   If this is the case, then I don't know.   I'd want you to define what magma is and what it consists of, what the tolerances are on the percentage of each part.   I'd probably also want to know how much energy/g is contained within an average human and some magma.

For example, if you asked if I can turn into a pure silicon rod, then my answer would most likely be no.   The rod is 100% silicon and I am far from that.   I doubt it matters how you arrange my atoms if I'm still going to be 50% carbon anyway.   Can you 'convert' the useless atoms within me to silicon to achieve the task?   Again, I don't really know.   If you want to manipulate individual subatomic particles, be my guest, but I imagine it would be difficult.   What if you somehow manage it and find there's a few atoms left over?   Does it count if I'm 99.99% silicon?

Another thing I'm unsure about is energy.   I imagine combining and splitting atoms as appropriate would require or release a fair amount of energy.   Are we allowed to input or take energy from the system?   How much energy we're going to need at the end may even rely on the temperature range of magma.

Let's say you manage to turn me into magma somehow, how do you intend to restore my original form?   Is the information somehow stored within the magma itself?   Is it stored outside the system (and is that cheating)?   I have a feeling that physical information is conserved, so I hope you know where it went and how to get it back.

I think there's far too many unknowns to provide a meaningful answer as to why/why not.   However, if I were to hazard a guess, I'm probably going to side with no because the concept just sounds absurd.

Twipply, Sanguine, and a few others were trying to prove to me that God did not exist

Don't make things up.   I would not attempt to prove something I don't even believe.   I doubt Sanguine would, either.

No, light does consist of matter.

You may find here that matter requires rest mass and is distinct from energy, something which light is not.

Deetz

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

You COULD have just pointed toward your sig... but that's irrelivant now. I still say it's impossible.

xputnameherex

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

@Twipply: Wait, since when do you believe God exists??? You were arguing completely against that! I even said "I'm assuming you're an atheist" and you said "Of course I am."

Regarding light, I more meant it in the sense that it follows almost all of the same rules of matter, especially gravity. But whatever.

Twipply

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

@Twipply: Wait, since when do you believe God exists??? You were arguing completely against that! I even said "I'm assuming you're an atheist" and you said "Of course I am."

Of course I don't believe god exists.   However, I don't deny that there's a rather slim, non zero possibility of some godlike entity.   The god myths depicted in most of the major religions I'm aware of are far, far less likely than there simply being a creator.   Although any belief in a god is absurd, it's not necessarily impossible.

Shift

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I wonder... during the Stone Age, when the greatest scientific discovery was that bigger rocks hurt more, did anybody believe the guy who suggested the nuclear missile? Probably not.

Granted the human race continues its progress unimpeded, I'm sure this will be possible eventually. How long it will take, I don't know. It could take millennia, decades, or minutes.

No, light does consist of matter.

That's news to me. Who told you this?

@Twipply: Wait, since when do you believe God exists??? You were arguing completely against that! I even said "I'm assuming you're an atheist" and you said "Of course I am."

Of course I don't believe god exists.   However, I don't deny that there's a rather slim, non zero possibility of some godlike entity.   The god myths depicted in most of the major religions I'm aware of are far, far less likely than there simply being a creator.   Although any belief in a god is absurd, it's not necessarily impossible.

I know this is off topic, but that's exactly what I was arguing with you about on that thread! Not that there is a deity, but that there could be. It sure seemed like you were denying the possibility...

krubby

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Re: Do you think this is possible?

No, light does consist of matter. That is why it can be sucked into black holes.

Actually, it's energy. However, matter is super condensed energy. So if something is dense enough, then energy gets treated like matter. Also, butts.

That's exactly what I meant.

I like how people keep saying that he's wrong and stuff, despite that he already clarified that that isn't what he meant later and corrected himself.