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Ratburntro44

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

By the way, for all the people that aren't from America reading this you might notice all the people threatening to move to Canada. Don't worry, that's just an American tradition that we have in which we threaten to move to Canada if the person we're against wins the election, but we never actually do.

One person threatened to move to Canada, that isn't a lot of people.

krubby

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

By the way, for all the people that aren't from America reading this you might notice all the people threatening to move to Canada. Don't worry, that's just an American tradition that we have in which we threaten to move to Canada if the person we're against wins the election, but we never actually do.

One person threatened to move to Canada, that isn't a lot of people.

2. And anyway, this is a warning for every corner of the internet.

Bimps

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

VOTE YES ON PROPOSAL 5
VOTE NO ON PROPOSAL 3

and there are a vote yes and a vote no for proposal 2.

what the crap.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*quintuple votes for Romney*

Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

krubby

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*quintuple votes for Romney*

Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

Is that why I ain't on your friends list anymore?

N1KF

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*quintuple votes for Romney*

Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

Is that why I ain't on your friends list anymore?

No, you very rarely went online.

krubby

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

Ah. Aaaaaaaaanyway, if you had to vote between Palin and Obama, who would you vote for, Republicans?

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*has no clue who Palin is*

Palin.

Zoey2070

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*has no clue who Palin is*

Palin.

so you'd vote for someone you don't know?
and were you even around for the last election?
you know, superbitch? McCain's running mate?
can see russia from her window?
daughter has a reality show because she got pregnant?
wiki article

but seriously? blindly choosing someone who you don't even know just because they aren't obama? racist or just heavily indoctrinated?

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

Romney.
Four years is plenty of time to at least start fixing the economy rather than focusing solely on a terrible healthcare plan. Our country's debt doubled when Obama promised to cut it in half.
Romney knows how to create jobs which we are in desperate need of and Ryan is an economic expert. There is seriously no better combination for our current economic stare.

I definitely agree with Different55. The way that Biden acted in the VP debate was childish and rude. I understand what he was trying to do, making up for Obama's train-wreak of a first debate, but it just made him look like an idiot.

Now, I definitely do not agree with the Republican platform on most of the social issues (seriously, it's time for them to grow up), but what our country needs right now are jobs and someone to finally take a stand and fix the economy.

@TakoMan02: Obama's first executive order when he went into office was to hide any and all personal records of presidents. He certainly was not doing that to protect Bush..Not to mention all of the recent Libya events.
@D-rock2308: Yes, but what matters is what Obama has actually done during his term in office.
@Saintcool: That's his middle name.
@Arceus64: When there's no signs of recovery after four years, it's time for something to change.

Honestly four years ago, I would have probably voted for Obama as he seemed like the better candidate. However, broken promises and a lacking record after four years is plenty reason to get someone who is qualified into office.

Conclusion: I hate politics. I will probably not be further posting on this thread as I've had enough political arguing for awhile.

Please no one take any offense to anything said. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that; it is important that people debate their views and stay well informed.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

Questions: When did Romney lie?

? Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.
? "Under President Obama: $4,000 tax hike on middle-class families."
? Says Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour."
? "Redistribution" has "never been a characteristic of America."
? "Under Obama?s plan (for welfare), you wouldn?t have to work and wouldn?t have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check."
? President Barack Obama is "ending Medicare as we know it."
? Ronald Reagan?s philosophy of "peace through strength" is why "the Iranians released the hostages on the same day and at the same hour that Reagan was sworn in."
? Says in the 2012 State of the Union address, President Obama "didn't even mention the deficit or debt."
? The U.S. military is at risk of losing its "military superiority" because "our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917. Our Air Force is smaller and older than any time since 1947."
? "We're only inches away from no longer being a free economy."
? Says Barack Obama said, "If we keep talking about the economy, we?re going to lose."
? The Massachusetts health care plan "dealt with 8 percent of our population," far less than the "100 percent of American people" affected by President Barack Obama?s health care law.
? President Obama?s health care law "represents a government takeover of health care."
? "I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty."
? "Regulations have quadrupled. The rate of regulations quadrupled under this president."
? "In one year, (President Obama) provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world ? into solar and wind, to Solyndra and Fisker and Tesla and Ener1."
? Says President Obama has "doubled" the deficit.
? "Right now, the (Congressional Budget Office) says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year."
? The "48, 49 percent" that supports President Barack Obama are "people who pay no income tax."
? "President Obama?s lawsuit claims it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state?s early voting period."
? President Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
? "Says stimulus money went to buy electric cars from Finland as a payback to Obama supporters."
? " ?Obamacare? puts the federal government between you and your doctor."
? Says Dow Chemical decided to build a plant in Saudi Arabia rather than Oklahoma due to the impact of environmental regulations on the supply of natural gas.
? "Obamacare ? means that for up to 20 million Americans, they will lose the insurance they currently have, the insurance that they like and they want to keep."
? "Obamacare adds trillions to our deficits and to our national debt."
? When Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts, "we didn?t just slow the rate of growth of our government, we actually cut it."
? Says Barack Obama "is the only president to ever cut $500 billion from Medicare."
? "The president gave the (auto) companies to the UAW."
? "This president went before the United Nations and castigated Israel for building settlements. He said nothing about thousands of rockets being rained in on Israel from the Gaza Strip."
? Says President Barack Obama has opened up no new trade relationships with other nations.
? Eliminating "Obamacare" ... "saves $95 billion a year."
? Says the National Labor Relations Board told Boeing that it couldn?t build a factory in South Carolina because South Carolina is a right-to-work state.
? "Only one president has ever cut Medicare for seniors in this country . . . Barack Obama."
? Repealing the health care law "would save $95 billion in 2016."
? Says Barack Obama "never worked in the private sector" before he was elected president.
? Says the National Labor Relations Board told Boeing that it "can't build a factory in a non-union state."
? "This is the slowest job recovery since Hoover."
? "Today there are more men and women out of work in America than there are people working in Canada."
Several times, Obama "has apologized for what he deems to be American arrogance, dismissiveness, and derision; for dictating solutions, for acting unilaterally ... ."
? "He (Obama) has done several things well. Most of those things are places where he changed his view from where he had during the campaign. So, for instance, he's left our troops in Iraq and they're being more successful there. He boosted our effort in Afghanistan, which is the right course to take. He did not close Guantanamo, thank heavens."
? "I was pretty proud of being the only guy on the stage that ever had a job in the private sector."
? "I don't have lobbyists running my campaign."
? "I just talked about guns. I told you what my position was, and what I did as governor, the fact that I received the endorsement of the NRA."
? "The Z-visa that was offered in that Senate bill let everybody who's here illegally, other than criminals, stay here for the rest of their lives."

And Obama made the debt a ton worse.

The debt gets worse all by itself, he actually did very little to make it worse.

If it were going to go down with his policies, the max he has is 4 more years, if the first 4 years wasn't enough to show some positive change, will 8 be enough? The first 4 years the debt went up nearly 5 trillion, more than any other president IIRC.

As government spending goes up, debt accelerates.

Governor Mitt Romney has said, and I quote: "I?ll balance the budget by the end of my second term. Doing it in the first term would cause, I believe, a dramatic impact on the economy. Too dramatic. And therefore the steps I've put in place and we've put together a plan that lays out how we get to a balanced budget within eight to 10 years."

See this? He's actually planning on waiting until his second term to balance the budget! Obama is doing the exact same thing, and it's a problem with him but not Romney?

I agree with them both on this - nobody can make enough change in 4 years. Even with full cooperation from Congress, change is slow and steady. I think that with Mitt Romney, you'd continue to see spending to go up and therefore see the national debt continue to accelerate until his second term. That is, if he gets his second term.

VOTE YES ON PROPOSAL 5
VOTE NO ON PROPOSAL 3

and there are a vote yes and a vote no for proposal 2.

what the crap.

This isn't a poll. If you want polls, go to CNN. They poll adults who have a thoroughly thought-out opinion (most of the time), as compared to some people here who would vote for someone just because their name sounds cool.

*quintuple votes for Romney*

Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

It's nice that you define people by their political views. Not only is that stereotypical and prejudice (built upon many assumptions; not all democrats are the same), but also narrow-minded and arrogant ("my way or the highway" mentality).

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krubby

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

>Repulicans put massive amounts of Republicans into Congress. (perfectly understandable)
>Obama becomes president
>Republican majority Congress shoots down almost anything Obama tries to do
>Obama can't do as much as he wants to.
>Republicans hate on him for not doing much even though they're the ones preventing him from doing it.

D-rock2308

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

Either I'm stupid or I noticed hardly anything bad that Obama did, yet people are saying he was the worst president ever.

Which I'm pretty sure it's not the before.

And I'm also pretty sure Romney doesn't know how to be a president just because he knows business. What's he going to do, donate all his money to the debt and failing industries? I really doubt it.

FruitMonster2

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

I voted for Obama 'cause you know the saying: once you go black, you never go back? I didn't go back. :3

Arceus64

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*quintuple votes for Romney*

Watch out, I've removed one of my friends for voting for obomba.

I'm going for Obama, see you later.

@Arceus64: When there's no signs of recovery after four years, it's time for something to change.

Obama has created more jobs, saved the Auto industry from complete disaster, bounced from the recession, and more.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*has no clue who Palin is*

Palin.

so you'd vote for someone you don't know? - I was expecting Palin to be better.
and were you even around for the last election? - Alive? Yes. There? I can't remember too well.
you know, superfemaledog? McCain's running mate? -   Huh?
can see russia from her window? - Does that matter for any reason?
daughter has a reality show because she got pregnant? - Above.
wiki article - Too lazy to check.

but seriously? blindly choosing someone who you don't even know just because they aren't obama? racist or just heavily indoctrinated?

Not a racist, but that's just me.

Breadfinn

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

*has no clue who Palin is*

Palin.

so you'd vote for someone you don't know? - I was expecting Palin to be better.
and were you even around for the last election? - Alive? Yes. There? I can't remember too well.
you know, superfemaledog? McCain's running mate? -   Huh?
can see russia from her window? - Does that matter for any reason?
daughter has a reality show because she got pregnant? - Above.
wiki article - Too lazy to check.

but seriously? blindly choosing someone who you don't even know just because they aren't obama? racist or just heavily indoctrinated?

Not a racist, but that's just me.

If not a racist, then heavily indoctrinated.
But seriously, you are showing a bad face of what-so-called America.

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

supersnip

If not a racist, then heavily indoctrinated.
But seriously, you are showing a bad face of what-so-called America.

good/go?od/

Adjective: To be desired or approved of.
Noun: That which is morally right; righteousness.
Adverb: Well: "my mother could never cook this good".

Synonyms:

adjective.   nice - kind - fine
noun.   benefit - profit - advantage - avail - welfare - use
adverb.   well - nicely - fine - right - okay

bad/bad/

Adjective: Of poor quality; inferior or defective: "a bad diet".
Adverb: Badly: "he beat her up real bad".

Synonyms:

adjective.   ill - evil - wicked - rotten - vicious - poor - nasty
adverb.   badly - ill - poorly

Just a reminder.

TheGreenTroll

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

I wanted Ron Paul for the U.S president.

Tako

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

I wanted Ron Paul for the U.S president.

A lot of people, myself included, did. I'm not entirely sure why he quit.

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Tako

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

CollegeHumor recently uploaded a pretty funny video that sums up the election for those of you who don't have a clue:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pJTn5n1jKg[/youtube]

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treejoe4

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

I wanted Ron Paul for the U.S president.

A lot of people, myself included, did. I'm not entirely sure why he quit.

Because there is no point.

Arceus64

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

supersnip

If not a racist, then heavily indoctrinated.
But seriously, you are showing a bad face of what-so-called America.

good/go?od/

Adjective: To be desired or approved of.
Noun: That which is morally right; righteousness.
Adverb: Well: "my mother could never cook this good".

Synonyms:

adjective.   nice - kind - fine
noun.   benefit - profit - advantage - avail - welfare - use
adverb.   well - nicely - fine - right - okay

bad/bad/

Adjective: Of poor quality; inferior or defective: "a bad diet".
Adverb: Badly: "he beat her up real bad".

Synonyms:

adjective.   ill - evil - wicked - rotten - vicious - poor - nasty
adverb.   badly - ill - poorly

Just a reminder.

You think you sound so professional by showing definitions of everyday words, are you really like this?

Jaybm

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

? Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.
? "Under President Obama: $4,000 tax hike on middle-class families."
? Says Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour."
? "Redistribution" has "never been a characteristic of America."
? "Under Obama?s plan (for welfare), you wouldn?t have to work and wouldn?t have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check."
? President Barack Obama is "ending Medicare as we know it."
? Ronald Reagan?s philosophy of "peace through strength" is why "the Iranians released the hostages on the same day and at the same hour that Reagan was sworn in."
? Says in the 2012 State of the Union address, President Obama "didn't even mention the deficit or debt."
? The U.S. military is at risk of losing its "military superiority" because "our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917. Our Air Force is smaller and older than any time since 1947."
? "We're only inches away from no longer being a free economy."
? Says Barack Obama said, "If we keep talking about the economy, we?re going to lose."
? The Massachusetts health care plan "dealt with 8 percent of our population," far less than the "100 percent of American people" affected by President Barack Obama?s health care law.
? President Obama?s health care law "represents a government takeover of health care."
? "I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty."
? "Regulations have quadrupled. The rate of regulations quadrupled under this president."
? "In one year, (President Obama) provided $90 billion in breaks to the green energy world ? into solar and wind, to Solyndra and Fisker and Tesla and Ener1."
? Says President Obama has "doubled" the deficit.
? "Right now, the (Congressional Budget Office) says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year."
? The "48, 49 percent" that supports President Barack Obama are "people who pay no income tax."
? "President Obama?s lawsuit claims it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state?s early voting period."
? President Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
? "Says stimulus money went to buy electric cars from Finland as a payback to Obama supporters."
? " ?Obamacare? puts the federal government between you and your doctor."
? Says Dow Chemical decided to build a plant in Saudi Arabia rather than Oklahoma due to the impact of environmental regulations on the supply of natural gas.
? "Obamacare ? means that for up to 20 million Americans, they will lose the insurance they currently have, the insurance that they like and they want to keep."
? "Obamacare adds trillions to our deficits and to our national debt."
? When Mitt Romney was governor of Massachusetts, "we didn?t just slow the rate of growth of our government, we actually cut it."
? Says Barack Obama "is the only president to ever cut $500 billion from Medicare."
? "The president gave the (auto) companies to the UAW."
? "This president went before the United Nations and castigated Israel for building settlements. He said nothing about thousands of rockets being rained in on Israel from the Gaza Strip."
? Says President Barack Obama has opened up no new trade relationships with other nations.
? Eliminating "Obamacare" ... "saves $95 billion a year."
? Says the National Labor Relations Board told Boeing that it couldn?t build a factory in South Carolina because South Carolina is a right-to-work state.
? "Only one president has ever cut Medicare for seniors in this country . . . Barack Obama."
? Repealing the health care law "would save $95 billion in 2016."
? Says Barack Obama "never worked in the private sector" before he was elected president.
? Says the National Labor Relations Board told Boeing that it "can't build a factory in a non-union state."
? "This is the slowest job recovery since Hoover."
? "Today there are more men and women out of work in America than there are people working in Canada."
Several times, Obama "has apologized for what he deems to be American arrogance, dismissiveness, and derision; for dictating solutions, for acting unilaterally ... ."
? "He (Obama) has done several things well. Most of those things are places where he changed his view from where he had during the campaign. So, for instance, he's left our troops in Iraq and they're being more successful there. He boosted our effort in Afghanistan, which is the right course to take. He did not close Guantanamo, thank heavens."
? "I was pretty proud of being the only guy on the stage that ever had a job in the private sector."
? "I don't have lobbyists running my campaign."
? "I just talked about guns. I told you what my position was, and what I did as governor, the fact that I received the endorsement of the NRA."
? "The Z-visa that was offered in that Senate bill let everybody who's here illegally, other than criminals, stay here for the rest of their lives."

Did you read through all these, or just copy and paste it? I'd hope that you didn't actually think many of these are "lies".

First, many of these are opinions, for example: "Ronald Reagan?s philosophy of "peace through strength" is why "the Iranians released the hostages on the same day and at the same hour that Reagan was sworn in."" His own personal views are not lies.

Second, there is a fine, fine line between having a wrong statistic and telling a lie. Presidents don't know everything. They aren't the God of knowledge. If your teacher asks you, "What is 2 + 2?" and you answer "5". Is that telling a lie too? No, it's simply just a wrong answer.

Thirdly, Many of these "lies" are actually not lies, he simply rounded numbers and such so its approximate, rather than dead on.

And as a side note, Obama's list of lies is probably at least loads longer. Why? Not because he's a bigger liar, because the media keeps track of every sentence out of your mouth when you're the president/candadate. So considering that, this isn't a big deal.

Oh, not to mention Obama's massive lie that he's still breaking today, when he said that he will NOT be running for a second term.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you on some things, but this, meh.

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That aside, I'd vote for Romney, in which I will probably make some massive post on why later, as well as some bonus features of me responding to some of the posts above. But I don't have time right now, so yeah. Stay tuned.

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D-rock2308

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Re: 2012 Presidential Election

I'm seeing this from Romney people. "Obama didn't do it in 4, so Romney MUST be able to!"   or   " Romney knows more about money and stuff so he should be president." yup, that for sure means he knows exactly how to fix the economy. The best excuse I've seen for voting for Romney is "I'm a republican" no joke.

I'd argue against obama-ers too but some of them are too long to read so I don't want to make up stuff.

Hurr durr politics