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#1 Re: Off Topic Discussion » Donald Trump just banned 1/200th of the US population... » 2017-02-03 02:39:37

iPwner wrote:

My post just got deleted because the forum lagged out... so I'l just summarize what I wrote. Thanks for sourcing your statistic... only thing is that europol's data actually supports my point. //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

http://i.imgur.com/D5JtZ2Q.png?1
https://www.europol.europa.eu/activitie … eview-2015 the pdf

If we say "vast majority" means 3/4, then that leaves Islamic terrorism as the last 1/4 of the 205, or at roughly 51 attacks. Now if we say a "majority" means 6/10, then that means roughly 600 people committed "counter-terrorist" terrorism against people who they thought were Islamic terrorists. 51 to 600. That's roughly a 12:1 ratio.

12 times more people commit attacks against Islamic people than Islamic people actually commit religiously inspired attacks.
Because they think the islamic people will attack them. Think about that for a second. o-o

All other types of crimes committed by Islamic people in 2015 are in the single or double digits. Look at the source.

Mic drop. I'm out. ;3

What the hell are you smoking? Are you seriously this brainwashed with liberal propaganda that you unconsciously(?) made up your own completely wrong definition of counter-terrorism so you could lie the data supports your point? Those 1053 people are people who planned terrorist attacks but got arrested in time.

Mic drop. I'm out. ;3

#2 Re: Off Topic Discussion » happy inauguration day » 2017-01-20 20:59:34

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

I am really offend by this topic. Dont you know Trump is a mean racist sexist homophobic transphobic islamophobic xenophobic ignorant spoiled childish privileged disrespectful bigoted megalomaniac that only care about himself!???! he is literaly hitler that will start ww3 by his mean insulting tweets. Looking at your avatar of hitler dancing, you dont even care he is next hitler. I hope you are just troll, there is no way any smart rational person would EVER vote for this evil white male, only racist uneducated rednecks voted for him cuz he will deport every person that isnt white and build the wall. Dont you know how scary this is for people like me? i already had 2 panic attacks today and probably more! I never thought i would say this and i dont care any more if i get baned, but you and drumpf are a MEANIE POOPY!!!!! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad



-1 woot for childishness

Learn to take a joke //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

I don't share your humor then.

"I don't share your political views then." FTFY //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

#3 Re: Off Topic Discussion » happy inauguration day » 2017-01-20 19:28:24

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

I am really offend by this topic. Dont you know Trump is a mean racist sexist homophobic transphobic islamophobic xenophobic ignorant spoiled childish privileged disrespectful bigoted megalomaniac that only care about himself!???! he is literaly hitler that will start ww3 by his mean insulting tweets. Looking at your avatar of hitler dancing, you dont even care he is next hitler. I hope you are just troll, there is no way any smart rational person would EVER vote for this evil white male, only racist uneducated rednecks voted for him cuz he will deport every person that isnt white and build the wall. Dont you know how scary this is for people like me? i already had 2 panic attacks today and probably more! I never thought i would say this and i dont care any more if i get baned, but you and drumpf are a MEANIE POOPY!!!!! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad



-1 woot for childishness

Learn to take a joke //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

#4 Re: Off Topic Discussion » happy inauguration day » 2017-01-20 16:00:36

I am really offend by this topic. Dont you know Trump is a mean racist sexist homophobic transphobic islamophobic xenophobic ignorant spoiled childish privileged disrespectful bigoted megalomaniac that only care about himself!???! he is literaly hitler that will start ww3 by his mean insulting tweets. Looking at your avatar of hitler dancing, you dont even care he is next hitler. I hope you are just troll, there is no way any smart rational person would EVER vote for this evil white male, only racist uneducated rednecks voted for him cuz he will deport every person that isnt white and build the wall. Dont you know how scary this is for people like me? i already had 2 panic attacks today and probably more! I never thought i would say this and i dont care any more if i get baned, but you and drumpf are a MEANIE POOPY!!!!! //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/mad



:^)

#6 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-15 16:34:24

Different55 wrote:

Why do they do this

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It seems Trump and Giuliani were right when they said professional protesters are protesting.

#9 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-08 03:08:00

Ratburntro44 wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

@Bobithan

Hillary did do something illegal because "110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received". The only reason she won't get prosecuted is because the FBI "did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information" and because people that did get prosecuted for similair cases in the past "involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice." (Source: FBI)

Any person that did something illegal would try to remove the evidence, so you can't deny it's really suspicious that Hillary deleted about 33,000 emails "because they were personal". It's not like the FBI would just publish her personal emails for no reason.

if the law requires intent for something to be illegal then it's not illegal to do it unintentionally
the quotes you singled out aren't saying that she did something illegal but they're choosing not to prosecute because it was unintentional (as you seem to be framing them to be), but that the legality depends on whether there was intention and, because there was no clear intention in this case, it would not be reasonable to prosecute. in particular, note that the report is referring to

a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way

so, perhaps she did something illegal, but that would be tied to the intentionality, not separate, and you don't present any actual basis saying "Hillary did do something illegal", and I doubt that you are able to present a basis for it considering the fbi evidently wasn't able to

I guess I should have used the full quote: "Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.".
There are several other statements in the report that make it clear they mishandled classified information "in a grossly negligent way", therefore it's a felony.

#10 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-07 21:19:55

Pyromaniac wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

I don't take you seriously anymore anyway after those childish responses you gave to me before, even after I gave you a chance to give a normal response.

Lol damn if this is how much you type in response to someone you don't even "take seriously", id hate to be someone you DO take seriously //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/big_smile

#doingtoomuch

I typed that much because several people that I do take seriously wooted your pathetic personal attack.


@Bobithan

Hillary did do something illegal because "110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received". The only reason she won't get prosecuted is because the FBI "did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information" and because people that did get prosecuted for similair cases in the past "involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice." (Source: FBI)

Any person that did something illegal would try to remove the evidence, so you can't deny it's really suspicious that Hillary deleted about 33,000 emails "because they were personal". It's not like the FBI would just publish her personal emails for no reason.

#11 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-07 00:16:40

Pyromaniac wrote:

how many times does he have to bring up the fact that he's in STEM before you people will stop questioning him and just start bowing down!?! God, its honestly like you're just refusing to validate his superiority complex.

I already said I only mentioned my study because others said only stupid uneducated people could support Trump, ignoring all the educated Trump supporters and the fact that the "smart" educated liberals often do studies like art, studies that don't require you to be smart and that will hardly get you a (high paying) job. But why would you take the effort to do a hard study that easily gets you a high paying job when you can vote for a government that will pay your student debt and welfare, right? What happened to liberals like JFK that said: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."? These days liberals think they are entitled to everything just for being born...

You should stop acting like I use my study as an excuse to ignore what someone else said because I NEVER did this. You are exactly doing to me what the media does all the time to Trump: misrepresenting what and why I said something.

I don't take you seriously anymore anyway after those childish responses you gave to me before, even after I gave you a chance to give a normal response. It's also funny how you quickly changed your "Listen up fives, a ten is speaking" sig shortly before/after saying I'm the one with the superiority complex, sneaky hypocrite.

Pingohits wrote:

@blizzard how are you sure the picture itself isn't propaganda?

From personal experience I can tell at least half of those sources are untrustworthy/biased, probably all.


@Onjit/NorwegianboyEE

I'm convinced that almost any major news source that wants a certain candidate to win is biased. I think they are prejudiced because they often use less credible sources to attack their disliked candidate and to defend their preferred candidate, even when they both did the exact same bad thing ("it's fine if my preferred candidate does this"). Just look at the article that Slushie posted where they even showed proof that Huma worked as an assistent editor for her families' journal, but then take the Clinton Campaign for their word that this is false.

The major news networks often have connections with a certain candidate's campaign and/or the DNC/RNC: Breitbart's former executive chairman Stephen Bannon is now the executive chairman of Trump's campaign, CBS President David Rhodes' brother Ben is part of the Obama staff, ABC President Ben Sherwood's sister Elizabeth is part of Obama's staff, CNN's Donna Brazile (now fired) and current interim chairwoman of the DNC secretly mailed debate questions to Hillary's campaign before a debate. Etc. Etc.

I actually think it's fine to post articles of somewhat biased sources, as long as they use credible evidence and don't try to twist someones words. I already pointed out that I didn't use calling the Washington Post biased as an excuse to ignore their article, I used it more as a side note to point out that sources that support a certain candidate are less trustworthy, whether they are technically biased/prejudiced or not.

GermanPower68 wrote:
1448 wrote:

@Glenn21 You cannot call anyone biased here. Clinton is definitely the lesser evil, and Trump is an idiot (in fact, he's the one who's biased; he hates on women and Mexicans and immigrants without even lending them an ear)

Forum mods, I don't care if I sounded offensive here because I'm fighting against the biggest offender of all.

this is maybe the best post ever, Donald Trump is just bad, because he want to build the wall, he hates muslims and he lie 60%

You sound like the average Trump hater that barely knows anything about him or the election. Trump only wants to deport the illegal immigrants and even let the good ones back in, if you watched a single Trump rally you would know this. He also spoke with the Mexican president and this went better than most people expected. Kellyanne Conway is Trump's campaign manager and his daughter has some influence on his ideas, proving he does listen to women. He won't deport any Muslims (except the ones that are illegal), he will only temporarily ban Muslims from dangerous areas from entering the USA for safety reasons. Defeating ISIS is one of his top priorities. ISIS kills plenty of innocent Muslims and make the moderate Muslims look bad, so how is Trump bad for Muslims? Because he won't let refugees in, even though there are plenty of other countries that already take them in? Why does every Western country have to take them in? No wonder people get suspicious when the EU also forces countries to pay €250.000 for every single refugee they refuse to take in.

#12 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-06 03:56:57

Ratburntro44 wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:
MrJaWapa wrote:

How is the Washington Post biased for supporting Hillary?

Is this a serious question? How is a newspaper that supports Hillary and says things like "Trump is uniquely unqualified to serve as president" supposed to be neutral? They are clearly prejudiced against Trump and they choose Hillary's side.

do you actually know what the word prejudiced means? it doesn't mean something like "has a bad opinion of"

You really expect a newspaper that wants Hillary to win to write unprejudiced articles? It's a fact they aren't neutral, they admit it and you can clearly see this when you read their articles.
It's also not like I used this as an excuse to ignore the article Slushie posted, because I also explained why I think that article is bad.

#13 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-06 02:17:50

MrJaWapa wrote:

How is the Washington Post biased for supporting Hillary?

Is this a serious question? How is a newspaper that supports Hillary and says things like "Trump is uniquely unqualified to serve as president" supposed to be neutral? They are clearly prejudiced against Trump and they choose Hillary's side.

#14 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-06 01:06:07

Slushie wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

If nobody is talking about this then thist "fact" check by the biased Washington Post wouldn't be made. .

Any source that doesn't agree with your views= bias?

"Hillary Clinton has the potential to be an excellent president of the United States, and we endorse her without hesitation."

How is this not biased? Please do your own research for once before spouting nonsense again and again...

Funny you say that, since the video you linked to actually originated from a post on /r/the_donald.

What are you trying to say? NorwegianboyEE acted like The Washington Post isn't biased but I only think so because I disagree with their views. They openly endorse Hillary, proving they are biased.

#15 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-05 23:16:58

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

If nobody is talking about this then thist "fact" check by the biased Washington Post wouldn't be made. .

Any source that doesn't agree with your views= bias?

"Hillary Clinton has the potential to be an excellent president of the United States, and we endorse her without hesitation."

How is this not biased? Please do your own research for once before spouting nonsense again and again...

#16 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-04 08:48:38

Slushie wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

The following video gives another reason why Hillary should absolutely NEVER become president:

I think your tinfoil hat is on there a little too tight.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac … otherhood/

TL;DR no one is talking about Huma Abedin because there's nothing to talk about. It's just a bunch of fanatical conspiracy theorists running their mouths.

If nobody is talking about this then thist "fact" check by the biased Washington Post wouldn't be made. If you actually took the little effort to google something like "huma terrorist" you would find plenty of articles from over the past few months about this subject, even some from back in 2012. It's the pro-Hillary mainstream media that doesn't talk about this (of course).

This "fact" check only "proves" two things. The first one is pretty funny because they first give proof that Huma was an assistent editor of her families' journal, but after that they say she played no role in editing articles because the Clinton Campaign said so recently.
What sounds more believable: the journal's website had mistakenly listed Huma as an assistent editor for years or the Clinton Campaign is lying yet again about something that could hurt their campaign?

The other thing it "proved" was that the journal wasn't radical because some unnamed "muslim experts" and totally unbiased members of the journal's advisory board said so. They claimed the quotes, that were used to prove the journal is radical, were cherry-picked and mischaracterized, without explaining how they were mischaracterized. So when a journal publishes radical articles only once in a while it means the journal isn't radical and they condemn radicalism *facepalm*.

Do you really think it's pure coincidence that the Huma's family business shares an office with the World Muslim League, an organization that has funded terrorists?
Do you really think it's not suspicious that governments that implemented the extremely sexist Sharia laws and who publicly stone gay people to death, donate millions of dollars to Hillary, a woman who claims she is a big supporter of equal rights?
Do you really think it's strange of others to think a government that implemented cruel Sharia laws and who want to spread Islam, may try to infiltrate and spy on other countries?
If you do then you are the gullible person with happy fantasy world goggles.

#17 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-11-04 00:17:04

Kefka wrote:

Just about sums up the whole dealio.

"Clinton emails. Trump admitting sexual assault. Clinton emails. Trump charity fraud. Clinton emails. Trump calls for nuclear proliferation. Clinton emails. Trump calls for national stop and frisk. Clinton emails. Trump violates trade embargo with Cuba. Clinton emails. Trump sued over Trump University fraud. Clinton emails. Trump bribes District Attorney. Clinton emails. Trump doesn't pay taxes for 20 years. Clinton emails. Trump employs campaign manager involved in illegal corruption with Russia. Clinton emails. Trump calls for ban of an entire religion from entering U.S. Clinton emails. Trump lied about support for Iraq War over and over during debate. Clinton emails. Trump in court for rape of a minor. Clinton emails. Trump unaware of Russia's Crimea occupation. Clinton emails. Trump unaware of situation in Syria. Clinton emails. Trump penalized for racist housing discrimination. Clinton emails. Trump files for bankruptcy 6 times. Clinton emails. Trump goes 0-3 in debates by showing scant knowledge of world politics. Clinton emails. Trump slams people for being POWs. Clinton emails. Trump calls Mexicans rapists. Clinton emails. Trump questions judge's integrity because of parent's heritage. Clinton emails. Trump deletes emails involved in casino scandal. Clinton emails. Trump commits insurance fraud after Florida hurricane. Clinton emails. Trump has dozens of assault victims and witnesses come forward with allegations of abuse. Clinton emails. Trump attacks former Miss America for being overweight. Clinton emails. Trump tweets about non-existent sex tapes at 3am. Clinton emails. Trump calls for U.S. citizens to be sent to Gitmo. Clinton emails. Trump calls for more extreme forms of torture to be used. Clinton emails. Trump asks why cant we use our nukes if we have them. Clinton emails. Trump calls for women and children related to suspected terrorists to be bombed. Clinton emails. Trump says women should be punished for having abortions. Clinton emails. Trump makes fun of disabled people. Clinton emails. Trump calls for end to freedom of the press. Clinton emails. Trump calls global warming a Chinese hoax. Clinton emails. Trump praises Putin's strong leadership. Clinton emails. Trump openly admits to not paying his employees during debate. Clinton emails. Trump calls Obama an illegitimate non-citizen hundreds of times over 7 years. Clinton emails. Trump uses campaign donations to enrich his own businesses. Clinton emails. Trump says Ted Cruz involved in JFK assassination unironically citing National Enquirer. Clinton emails. Trump says laziness is an inherent trait in black people. Clinton emails."

The problem with that quote is that the things Trump did, according to those statements, are mostly false and not illegal, while Hillary may actually go to jail because of her email scandal. A lot of these statements have already been discussed in this topic, so I don't feel like writing another long comment refuting everything.
The quote is also really misleading because it makes it look like Hillary did only one bad thing and others keep referring back to this one thing when there is a new Trump "scandal". There are plenty of other Clinton scandals and new emails of Hillary and her campaign get leaked all the time, almost daily since October, revealing more corruption and new scandals by her and her campaign.



The following video gives another reason why Hillary should absolutely NEVER become president:

#18 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-20 02:14:10

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I'm assuming you are talking about building safe zones in Syria, but heres the deal. Safe zones don't work. Putting moderate muslims in segregated safe zones just makes them easier targets for Extremist terror attacks, imagine the damage some suicide bombers or explosives could do. There are also records of gunmen easily slaughtering hundreds of people located in so called "safe zones." (http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa … ct/415134/)

The whole reason the Syrian situation escalated so badly anyway is because the US troops naively tried to govern a largely hostile population that was strongly against the US by using half measures and not nearly enough security.

Like you said, the biggest problem with previous safe zones was that there wasn't enough security. They should build the safe zones in the more stable areas of Syria and make sure that there are enough troops to secure the area. They could make rules that civilians aren't allowed to take weapons into the safe zone and do body checks at the border. With modern technology like satellites and drones with cameras, they can also monitor the areas in and around the safe zones.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Take a look at Saigon during the Vietnam invasion. (https://warisboring.com/watch-u-s-troop … .mtm3flym6)
It's not easy at all too "protect" a country that wishes the invaders would just leave already.

The big difference is that Vietnam had a lot more soldiers. ISIS is relatively small, the latest estimates by US officials is about 15 to 20,000 fighters. This means that protecting a safe zone in Syria is probably easier and it means that ISIS will have to risk a lot of their people when they want to attack a highly secured safe zone.

@Tomahawk
According to Trump's website, he wants to "Suspend, on a temporary basis, immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world that have a history of exporting terrorism" and "Establish new screening procedures and enforce our immigration laws to keep terrorists out of the United States".
I think the new screening procedures include doing more background checks on Arabs, whether you think this is racist or not, you can't deny a big majority of Arabs is Muslim.
These statements also show that Trump will most likely still allow Muslims to enter the USA when they pass the background checks and are not from a dangerous area.

#19 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-19 01:01:28

Tomahawk wrote:

For the third time: you can't physically blanket ban an entire religion, nor justify the attempt.

Of course you can do this temporarily and justify it. ISIS admits they exploit the refugee crisis and recent terrorist attacks prove this is true, because it had terrorists posing as refugees involved in them. This means there's a high risk they will try to exploit the refugee crisis to get terrorists into the USA too. How many times do I have to repeat this?

Tomahawk wrote:

You're a xenophobe, Glenn, and watching you generalise the entirety of Islam into potential terrorists makes me sick. This may be a debate, but your views are not healthy or welcome.

No wonder you're defending Trump.

There is nothing unhealthy about wanting to prevent potential dangers that have a high risk of happening. What is unhealthy is ignoring these dangers with bad arguments like "it's xenophobic to [temporarily] ban Muslims" and "Islamic terrorists aren't true Muslims".
Like ZeldaXD and MrJawapa pointed out: phobias are irrational fears. There is nothing irrational about fearing terrorists will pretend to be refugees to get into the USA when you know they already do this to get into Europe. Whether these terrorists are true Muslims or not is irrelevant, because this wont lower the chance of them trying to exploit the refugee crisis to get into the USA.

You are not the one to decide which views are welcome and which aren't, this isn't a politically correct echo chamber. If you can't handle someone else's view then I suggest you should leave this debate.

Anyway, I will ask you again: why do you want western countries to take the high risk of letting terrorists in so badly when we could build safe zones instead?
When we build safe zones the refugees will still get help and the West doesn't have to be afraid that terrorists and economic migrants will exploit the refugee crisis. It's the perfect win-win scenario.

#20 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-16 20:43:42

32OrtonEdge32dh wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

The peaceful muslim majority is irrelevant when you know only 19 hijackers were needed for the 9/11 attacks

And the Oklahoma City bombing only took McVeigh and Nichols, better ban white people.

Stop ignoring what I said by using such a bad comparison. The amount of radical muslims is way higher than any other religion.
Attacks like this one by white people are often done by people who have been bullied and who have mental problems. It rarely has anything to do with their culture or ideology.

Why do you want western countries to take the high risk of letting terrorists in so badly when we could build safe zones instead?
Because of their different culture and ideology, muslims are more likely to create problems when they are in western countries than white people.

#21 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-16 19:32:11

The peaceful muslim majority is irrelevant when you know only 19 hijackers were needed for the 9/11 attacks, especially when you know ISIS is exploiting the refugee crisis.
Like I mentioned before in this topic, 60% of the refugees are actually economic migrants who have nothing to do with the war. Another reason why the USA and Europe should build safe zones, instead of taking them in, so we know the real victims of the war get help.

#22 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-14 03:20:08

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

There's no point accusing me of this unless you are going for ad hominem. You have no way of denying that you are doing the exact same ting.

Accusation still does not equal truth. You said the rape accusations against Trump are a reason not to vote for him even though they are obviously fake.

You seriously believe a newspaper that calls Trump racist and sexist etc. all the time and tells you never to vote for him is not biased? Do you even know what the word means? Like blizzard pointed out, the worst source to prove otherwise is an article of their own.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I'm honestly more worried about the fact that a man whose rise mirrors that of facist dictators is making debating look like a reality show and proving that the idiot culture is winning.

Hillary is the one that owns the Lügenpresse and whose supporters are trying to silence pro-Trump speakers and preventing others to go to Trump rallies by blocking roads, literally things the nazi's did.
Both sides are guilty of making the debates look like a reality show, but that's mostly because there isn't much time to really go in-depth certain topics and they are meant for undecided voters anyway.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Hillary has experience and i have faith that she would benefit America and the entire world, - even though in all honestly i would have preferred Bernie Sanders.

Hillary has a lot of experience of being corrupt. Trump has a lot of economic, job making and leadership experience because he has been running hundreds of successfull businesses for years. These qualifications are important when running for president. He knows why certain companies are leaving the USA and wants to bring them back with his policies.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Trump however is genuinely frightening, he preaches xenophobia, racism, ignorance.

No he doesn't. There is nothing racist about enforcing the law by deporting illegal immigrants and letting the good ones back in. There is nothing xenophobic with temporarily banning muslims from entering the USA for safety reasons. Trump won't deport muslims that have a U.S. citizenship. ISIS admits they abuse the refugee crisis to slip terrorists into western countries and some of the people involved in recent terrorist attacks were "refugees". Trump actually wants to help the muslims by building safe zones in the Middle East and getting rid of ISIS once and for all.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

He sounds like a televangelist scammer by the way he talks and comes with his vague "plans" for everything that "he" is the only one who can apparently fix.

The real scammer is Hillary who lost all credibility by admitting she lies to her voters with the excuse Lincoln did the same.
Trump has a good reason to be vague about his plans about defeating ISIS. It's pretty stupid if you tell your enemy when and where you will attack/leave every time.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

The entire situation would be kinda funny if he didn't actually have supporters that seem so eager to uphold his will and "take to the streets" if he loses his campaign.

Most people who say this are just trolling. SJWs and BLM already do this all the time.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

I just said this to be funny. Guess you didn't like it. (Also you changed the way i worded that quote)

It's funny how people like you call Trump and his supporters racist because they supposedly generalise certain people, but you actually do generalise other people yourself. You also said most people here are probably from a red state, even though millions of Trump supporters live in blue states.
I know I changed your quote a little but it's basicly what you said.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Sweden is a great country and it is nowhere near being a "rape capital of Europe" as you put it. Who was talking about being unbiased and not accusing again? Why would i move to Sweden? I love my country, also "ruining another country with bad liberal ideas"? Norway is already ten times as liberal as the US is, and i can say with experience that left-wingers and right-wingers alike in scandinavia all laugh at how stupidly ridiculous Trump is. I don't know where you pulled that insult from, but it failed.

It's a name that people give to Sweden because of the sudden increase in rapes after they took in hundreds of thousands of muslims, because the liberals thought that was a good idea. They even cover up mass rapes.

It's no surprise that Scandinavians think Trump is stupidly ridiculous because most barely know anything about him, besides some random videos and meme pictures. The media in Europe is also mostly neutral or negative about him. You are proof that you barely know anything about Trump because you make false claims that he is racist and xenophobic.

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

How is this relevant?!

I just wanted to know whether you agreed with me or would yell "racist, sexist xenophobe!" //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

#23 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-13 22:49:57

N1KF wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:
SmittyW wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

It really makes me think.
http://puu.sh/rHAB4/37b7047dd6.png

Does that mean people who went to college make less than those who didn't? Does that make the people who didn't attend college smarter?

It means that Hillary voters are more likely to do worthless studies like art and gender studies //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

But knowledge isn't worthless //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad

It's pretty worthless if you know you will waste several years of your life for this knowledge that won't make you a living. Not to mention they want the tax payers to pay for this worthless degree and after that for their welfare...

#24 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-13 22:42:28

SmittyW wrote:
ZeldaXD wrote:

It really makes me think.
http://puu.sh/rHAB4/37b7047dd6.png

Does that mean people who went to college make less than those who didn't? Does that make the people who didn't attend college smarter?

It means that Hillary voters are more likely to do worthless studies like art and gender studies //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/wink

#25 Re: Debates » Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? » 2016-10-13 09:47:22

Pyromaniac wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

What a terrible excuse to ignore everything I said. Yes, I was pretty late with responding, but that doesn't make the things I said less true. Now you make yourself look like someone who clearly lost the argument. So go on, I promise I will respond way faster this time.

Ya u beat me. Congrats, gg, 10/10 arguing, etc.

I'd like to add- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_-ZOnRlims

Please. PLEASE, take your candidates advice and get out to vote on November 28th. Its important. Dont listen to that dang liberal media trying to tell you the wrong voting date! Its all a trick masterminded by Lyin' Hillary to fool the poor uneducated white masses**. Good thing Trump is so smart (just like you, I'm assuming. I mean look at how good at debate you are! You beat me! Some faceless rando on the internet!) and was able to figure out those pesky liberals' tricks!

**(http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc … ly/471714/, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/upsho … html?_r=0))

Wow, what a childish response for someone who says Trump acts like a child. I never said you lost the argument, what part of "make yourself look like" do you not understand?

Once again you completely ignored my previous response to you, so now it really looks like you lost the argument, just stop making yourself look like a fool and either use real arguments against my previous response or admit I was right, instead of degrading yourself to personal attacks and using weak arguments like "OMG how can you vote for someone who accidently said 28 instead of 8?!?". Like I told you before: "Everybody makes mistakes sometime while they are talking, I doubt you never made a little mistake during a presentation.".

Also, just because some polls say that a big part of Trump voters aren't educated doesn't mean none are, so stop generalising. It's no news that schools are infiltrated with liberal professors, who often don't have real job experience, but learned everything at their (liberal) teacher training college. These professors have a big influence on students, especially the ones who don't actively follow politics and don't do their own research, so it's no surprise more educated people are liberals.
There is also this thing called the silent majority; because people keep calling Trump supporters stupid and racist etc. they don't tell others who they really vote for. Just look at Brexit where most polls on the voting day said Remain would win.

While we're talking about voter demographics anyway, I'd like to point out that the older people are, the more likely they are to vote conservative. Some of the reasons for this is because they have more life experience and work experience. They also realise their taxes (will) go to the whiny, greedy youth of today and economic (illegal) immigrants. They want everything for free via unrealistic socialist ideas like free college, this will make the already $19 trillion debt a lot higher. The Netherlands, for example, used to have free college and free university. They recently quit with this because it was too expensive, despite the majority of the studies only costing ~$2200 a year, a lot lower than in the USA. But liberals try to discredit older people by saying things like "Old people are stupid and racist, they don't even know how to turn a computer on! LOL!". But enough with the bandwagon fallacies for now.


Pyromaniac wrote:

EDIT: Just as a side note, I came across this---http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa … -1.2828571

How lovely! What a great group of people. Trump really brings out the best in all of you, doesn't he?

If you go on Twitter you will see that this is either trolling or a false flag. Almost everybody tweeting about this either condemns it or are trolls. The few that are serious are of the extreme part that both sides have.

In my opinion anybody that votes purely based on someones gender, whether male or female, shouldn't have the right to vote. The people who do this are the real sexists, because they think having a certain gender automatically makes that candidate better. Too bad there will most likely be a way bigger group of women than men who will do this, because there hasn't been a female president before, but I don't think this is a good reason to remove the voting rights of all women.

Bobithan wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

She does this to make Trump look like a crazy nutjob even when he is stating proven facts.

thats the thing though. he is a bigger liar than hillary which is really saying something. he just makes **** up on the spot

Sadly you are one of the people who fell for this tactic...
So Trump lied when he said Hillary cheated her way to the democratic nomination, even though WikiLeaks proved that the DNC worked together with the media to make Hillary look good and Bernie Sanders (and Trump) look bad? Was Trump lying when he said Hillary "acid washed" her email server? Some fact-checkers aren't even trying anymore... In the meantime, Pyromaniac dares to make fun of me for saying the media is biased...

Sometimes people even lie that Trump is lying. I remember that a few months ago, Trump said that companies are leaving the USA because the taxes are so high. The Daily Show then made it look like Trump was lying by saying the average tax rate in the USA is a lot lower compared to other countries. But Trump was clearly talking about the corporate tax rate which is the third highest in the world. I know that a satirical news/talk show isn't the most trustworthy source, but they definitely have a great influence on people who don't actively follow politics and aren't interested enough to do their own research.

Bobithan wrote:
Glenn21 wrote:

FYI, I study Computer Engineering at a University and belong to the 25% of my year that didn't get kicked from my study. I also actively followed this election for about a year now, so please, don't call me uneducated and gullible

yes ok because a STEM major is who we should be listening to when it comes to social sciences. nice credibility tough guy

Nice ad hominem fallacy. Just because I do a certain STEM major doesn't mean I know nothing about other topics. I guess you are also one of those people that believe everything their liberal professors tell them, just because they did a certain study and have an authoritarian role.

The only reason I brought this up is because Tomahawk insulted all Trump supporters with his narrow minded generalisation that only uneducated, gullible people could vote for Trump. I didn't say this to look like a "tough guy". If I wanted to brag about it, I would have mentioned this a lot earlier in this topic.
What study do you do and at what level? No offense, but you sound like a jealous person now because I will easily find a good paying job once I'm done with mine.

If I have no credibility, then why don't you try to refute the other things I said, instead of using weak ungrounded arguments and personal attacks to ignore the rest. Should be easy then, right? You also ignored some things I said to you in an earlier comment, at least you can't use the lame excuse that I made a late response.


I see NorwegianboyEE is yet another person who completely ignored my (and blizzard's) response to him, because he wooted these two terrible comments above mine.

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