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And I mean definitely made things more fun of course

GG game is basically over now. pretty crazy that town pulled through despite a scuffed d1 lynching tracker with like 4 people not participating lol

I got some pretty lucky JK targets which definitely helped against that.

Really unfortunate that edi posted his role card, I wish that did not happen, makes the W feel a bit more hollow.

From mafiascum:

So I'm not really interested in pursuing this line of reasoning. If you have other arguments for a bob+edi pairing though I'm all ears.

The defensive nature of pqwerty's push on me is pretty clear given his progression. If you look at the start of day 2, I immediately push for pqwerty and pqwerty tries to de-escalate without any indication of wanting to push me:

He then gives it one more shot in this post. He does kind of accuse me of having insider information, which I did indeed had at that point, but he diffuses any sort of accusatory tone by saying I'm "looking in the wrong place"; mafia aint be looking in any place, they're just trying to stir ****!

Only after he sees that I'm definitely not letting this go does he finally place a vote on me in his very next post. This kind of progression does not look like it's coming from a place of trying an organic push against a tracked target, it's pretty clearly a push in response to being pushed. OMGUS, if you will.

Which brings me to this question I asked earlier:

He said he chose me to track n1 because of my vote on Buzzerbee:

So why didn't he start the day by pursuing that line of attack? Why wait until it was clear I wasn't giving up my push on him? Because he's not a tracker!

response wall pt 1

You were pretty explicit about voting for Buzz because of Buzz's vote on N1KF. I find it hard to see Buzz's vote on a "neutral" N1KF to be alignment indicative, and not a compelling motivation for a vote. These kinds of non-reasons for voting while jumping on a wagon are going to be more likely to come from somebody scum aligned. It's an overstepping of an attempt to posture oneself as trying to solve the game, which is going to produce rubbish more often than somebody genuinely trying to make progress for town.

When I point out your mischaracterization of Buzz as voting N1KF due to him being a "nothing" slot rather than a "neutral" slot, I am trying to emphasize that your reason for voting Buzz is not coming from a genuine place. A made up reason is more likely to contain such discrepancies, and I find the distinction between "nothing" and "neutral" to be rather significant; they certainly are not synonyms in this game!

Nah, you can't be serious with this comment. How early is too early for a vote? Should I have waited for more posts from Proc? It was page 1. Should I have waited for page 2, or 3? When is it finally appropriate to start pressuring people with votes?

Not to mention Zumza & N1KF jumping on that vote spooked me so I backed off. Still held my SR of proc until he started posting more, but I wasn't so keen on letting that wagon blossom.

It's not valid though! Even a random vote is better than a no-vote with 9 players. That's just how the game works, and you should know that. You, in no uncertain terms, called a no vote a potentially "good idea" if we didn't have a case on Buzz, and relented after my essay against it. This doesn't align with your portrayal here on day 3, and it doesn't align with your mafia knowledge.

This is in reference to the following post:

(which, by the way, includes pqwerty placing Proc as his #2 scumread; I thought that was a stupid position to "think that he was a mafia immediately softing VT"?)
Anyways, this post is just something that pinged me as perhaps being TMI. "Relatively" towny isn't really enough for this kind of confidence. But I guess it could just be your playstyle. Regardless, this is one of the posts that first made me start considering scum!pqwerty so I included it in my outline. But yeah this is certainly one of the least convincing "exhibits".

This is in reference to this post (which btw again is you scumreading proc for claiming VT. I thought that was dumb!):

I think, in your defense, you forgot that from a tracker POV it's actually a 2/3 chance of a mafia rolecop! But yeah since start of day 2 I knew there was a juggernaut, this post looked very suspicious. Not enough to base my entire case on, but enough to mention.

I didn't actually start my vote on you due to the PR hunting argument, this is a mischaracterization. The only time I even mention that argument when concurring with a point N1KF made. I didn't even register that as a possibility when I first pushed you, and I still don't care much for the "PR hunt" angle now, as it's not indicative of any particular player as being scum; it just provides a little bit of extra motivation as to why zumza might have died.

This is actually the primary reason for my intial push, despite everybody saying that this is dumb nightkill analysis. I still stand by this. The expectation in killing somebody who sussed you is to just WIFOM your way out of it, which has worked for everybody except for me! If I wasn't such a pain about this, it would have absolutely been a great plan, but I pulled at that thread until you unfurled completely over the next couple of ingame days. Not to mention that Zumza's sus of you could easily have flown under the radar; proc's first chart mislabels Zumza as green on pqwerty and he later admitted that he didn't really register it.

I also just think in a game like this in particular it is generally not dumb to make a nightkill such as this since we're all coming back after a long hiatus, so there isn't much of a meta to go off of. There's more room for risky moves as scum to make a more favorable environment to navigate.

Sure, whatever. I'm 100% pqwerty is scum but only 99.9% sure schlog is scum so I'll vote pqwerty for that extra iota of EV but I'll happily hammer schlog as soon as I see 3 votes on him.

!vote pqwerty

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But you could just claim tracker then and there and let town know your damning results. The risk of you dying n2 and town losing your results is way too great for such marginal benefit.

Not to mention you didn't start pointing your finger of suspicion at me until you saw I wasn't giving up on pushing you d2. You were quite =https://forums.everybodyedits.com/view … ]forgiving of my push at the start of the day. How were you planning on getting me voted out if I didn't continue pursuing your lunch d2?

Ok here's the outline I have for my pqwerty wall:

I wrote this then went to Target to buy a soap dispenser and milk, among other things. On my ride back home I realized one more thing pretty damning of pqwerty which made me not quite as excited to flesh out this outline, because this kind of completely dismantles his tracker claim....

In post 95, I accidentally call the follower the tracker:

pqwerty even calls me out on it in post 102

Why would he do this as the tracker? If there's a tracker and I'm scum, my slip up would be a pretty scary indication that the mafia rolecop found the tracker. At this point instead of trying to fruitlessly push to vote me out, he absolutely should reveal his N1 results to expedite my lynch, because scum is going to kill him that night anyways and he's not going to be able to share his n2 results. But he does not do that, because he is not the tracker, so there is no need to counterclaim at this point.

pqwerty is not the tracker.

tbh I forgot that from another POV it was possible to see me as anything but town so I just completely forgot you might've been talking about me lol

The funny thing about this comment is it's true in the case I'm town and in the case I'm scum

This could never have possibly been the plan, because the only person who finds me scummy is you...

Anyways I'm going to take a walk before the sun goes down. Maybe I'll look at the thread a bit on my phone idk

this is such an unnecessarily risky play when you're one mislynch from losing the game that there's no way you would ever do this.