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Masternat

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Re: No more energy!

I didn't want to read everything,but...
Seriously,banning all bot and the person who use them?
Noooooo!
We need bots!
Else how will we,like other said...do...things?Like shift digbot and things like that in our own level?
Well okay energy is ok,I guess...
but NOT inoffensive bot that bring fun to people!

Masternat

Guest

Re: No more energy!

In a way the energy was removed because of inflation, everyone had a ton of it, and increasing the updates only made people use CC more.

I think he should replace it like this:

First, you can rate levels 1 to 5 stars.
After 100 ratings(from different IPs), the game awards you a certain amount of diamond shards according to the number of stars it has when you win the level.
This way people can't make a bunch of small worlds with no minigames and just a trophy. You also cannot get diamond shards from your own levels.

Diamond shards are 1/1000 of a diamond.
If you get 1000 you can turn them in for a diamond, and 1 diamond shard = 1 gem, etc.
Or you could just use the energy system, and everywhere the word energy is you replace the word with lead. You can't make a lead balloon after all, so no inflation = D

Not that much a good idea...un popular level's owner will never be able to get anything.

Skyler

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Ok I think this is a really cheesy idae but you cant judge me for it ... But, this is to Chris. So, Chris: An idea for this energy problem is a limmit for magic coins a day or week or such and such. Ik its probably not a great idea but maybe it is

GKAbyss

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Re: No more energy!

In a way the energy was removed because of inflation, everyone had a ton of it, and increasing the updates only made people use CC more.

I think he should replace it like this:

First, you can rate levels 1 to 5 stars.
After 100 ratings(from different IPs), the game awards you a certain amount of diamond shards according to the number of stars it has when you win the level.
This way people can't make a bunch of small worlds with no minigames and just a trophy. You also cannot get diamond shards from your own levels.

Diamond shards are 1/1000 of a diamond.
If you get 1000 you can turn them in for a diamond, and 1 diamond shard = 1 gem, etc.
Or you could just use the energy system, and everywhere the word energy is you replace the word with lead. You can't make a lead balloon after all, so no inflation = D

Not that much a good idea...un popular level's owner will never be able to get anything.

I'm not sure what you mean,

In the case that you mean they won't get diamond shards:
You get diamond shards for winning levels that the community considers good levels in my idea.

I guess you might say they might not have anyone join, but it will balance out:
easy "noob" levels would get bad ratings (maybe) and give maybe 2 diamond shards if you win the level.

difficult "pro" levels would get good ratings (maybe) and give 10 or more?

This way you could either win a lot of easy levels or a few difficult ones.

It might also be possible to have the game give you diamond shards for having people win your level.
There are some problems though...

Rating abuse
Other forms of exploitation?

diamonds for $100 vs playing 100 easy levels a diamond...
I really don't think it should be possible to purchase diamonds, maybe have 100,000 diamond shards be a diamond, and have it cost something extra somehow since you have to:
melt diamond shards
mold them into the shape of a diamond brick
let it cool

This is kind of what Chris has in mind I think, having rewards for playing the game (diamond shards) it would also be more video game like, and in general fit this game if you could be creative in purchases(?).

XxAtillaxX

Member

Joined: 2015-11-28

Posts: 4,202

Re: No more energy!

I hope Mr. Benjaminsen does realize that he'll never be able to fully kill cheating.
It should be well received by him that banishing users for automated tasking isn't a real solution.

However, I still laugh at this. It's hilarious, and if those logfiles are real then I agree with the statement that Chris isn't a very smart man.

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GKAbyss

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Apart from the energy awarded from contest prizes, I'm finding it difficult to understand why everyone is opposed to Chris's decisions. I kind of get the bot part about removing all the hard work that programmers have put into creating bots, but I don't understand the problem with the energy being replaced.

Masternat

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Re: No more energy!

melt diamond shards
mold them into the shape of a diamond brick
let it cool

This is kind of what Chris has in mind I think, having rewards for playing the game (diamond shards) it would also be more video game like, and in general fit this game if you could be creative in purchases(?).

We also could craft sword with that ? 0.o

Gamerbro64

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Am I the only one happy about this it could bring so much more creativity in the game.

capasha1

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Whatever. If he is going to remove the energy from coins. Then give us some energy each day we login instead.
And maybe give us some refill when it's a holiday. If not, whatever. I can't care anymore. And I guess I'm going to feel the ban anyway because of a bot.

People make bots that ban, using whitelist or even hide the worlds. Or bots like digbot, shift and yo:scroll.
Because EE doesn't have any new things that people can create minigames off.
Chris the hater don't like it and need to ban everyone that using a bot. Because he can't add a simple ban command with banlist, or even make it possible to hide worlds from lobby and friendlist.

Oh, I forgot, the bugs and exploits for crashing worlds still exists. But better to ignore that and ban peoples that use useful things instead. Gj!

Last edited by capasha1 (Jun 30 2012 5:39:32 pm)

Chewy

Banned

Re: No more energy!

I remember when people played this game, to play the game. ;_;

Am I the only one happy about this it could bring so much more creativity in the game.

Nope. Right here with you dude. Just the two of us...

XxAtillaxX

Member

Joined: 2015-11-28

Posts: 4,202

Re: No more energy!

I have no problem with regarding Energy replacement or removal.
However, banishing people for using automated tools is an idiotic move.

Everybody Edits shouldn't have restrictions. It's a damn sandbox game.
I see that cheating is an issue, people were given kick commands for that.

Oh and by the way guise. I think there may already be "detecting" for botting..

	ABTest: { 		landing_12_06: { 			Date: 29/06/2012 10:01:56 PM#,  			Sessions: 387,  			SessionTime: 1017788.9790437,  			TestName: "landing_12_06",  			Scenario: 0,  			ScenarioName: "login" 		}

Just a heads up.

I'm not too sure about that information though, it could be because of me logging into private servers.

EDIT: Hm, nope. It seems to just be a weird "Testing" protocol I've fallen into:

public class Testing {             public static var LANDING_12_06:string = "landing_12_06";          public static var LANDING_12_06_SCENARIOS:array = ["login", "tutorial"];          private static var current_test:string = LANDING_12_06;          private static var scenario:int;             public static function getTestName():string{              return (current_test);          }          public static function isScenarioA():boolean{              return (!(boolean(getScenario())));          }          public static function getScenario():int{              var _local1:string;              if (!scenario){                  scenario = getRandom();                  if (Global.sharedCookie != null){                      _local1 = ("abtest_" + current_test);                      if (Global.sharedCookie.data[_local1] != null){                          scenario = Global.sharedCookie.data[_local1];                      } else {                          Global.sharedCookie.data[_local1] = scenario;                      };                  };                  trackScenario();              };              return (scenario);          }          private static function trackScenario():void{              if (Global.tracker != null){                  Global.tracker.trackUserEvent("abtest", current_test, scenario, LANDING_12_06_SCENARIOS[scenario]);              };

Safe for now.

Last edited by ?tilla (Jun 30 2012 5:55:11 pm)

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GKAbyss

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Are they just going to have the system kick out a bot if it detects one, or will it actually ban the people who use bots?

Darkonemeow / Heromaster

Guest

Re: No more energy!

If wizards are still available to get, then wont Coin Collector just get players magic smilies faster?

midevilangel

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Am I the only one happy about this it could bring so much more creativity in the game.

*high five*

eeplayer17

Guest

Re: No more energy!

Probably, but that's not too big of a deal since you can only get each magic smiley one time whereas you could get unlimited energy.

ABC Boy

Guest

Re: No more energy!

No! Wizards fire firewizard things I still as hard as what it was in the past! It was
1-10/1,000,000,000 To get a magic coin and only 2% to get the wizard
And now, it will even become
1-10/50,000,000,000 To get those wizards!
Never think of wizard   is easier!

midevilangel

Guest

Re: No more energy!

No! Wizards fire firewizard things I still as hard as what it was in the past! It was
1-10/1,000,000,000 To get a magic coin and only 2% to get the wizard
And now, it will even become
1-10/50,000,000,000 To get those wizards!
Never think of wizard   is easier!

i thought with magics gone, wizards are easier to get o.o

ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

This is what i think the Chris is thinking about(Seriously)
1. Hold more contest( Not only level making contest, maybe a race, a problem solving, a boss level etc
2. REPLY to #74:
I don't think Chris will let people play other people level to get gems, if that is true, Many people will get beta.
3. Make more magic coin item

BillyP

Guest

Re: No more energy!

The coin collector is just abusing flawed code. Coin/movement packets are easy enough to send/receive - Chris was asking for it.

Banning all bots isn't cool. Coin collector was like, the most 'harm' a bot could do.

Last edited by BillyP (Jun 30 2012 7:46:05 pm)

cools

Member

Joined: 2015-03-20

Posts: 157

Re: No more energy!

Coin collector was like, the most 'harm' a bot could do.

Very true :/ It was indeed a harmful bot. (I like bots but if it goes to far like Gbot or CoinCollector I hate them)

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ABC Boy

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Re: No more energy!

But ive never met any of the coin collector!
Just ban those bot plase!

rold1212

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Joined: 2015-06-01

Posts: 76

Re: No more energy!

wew. i saw the "storyline".. the conversation was actually like D: D:
but i agree to this:
remove the old magic physics and change it to something new
remove bots

think of the past... peaceful and happy...
but now... chaos of bots (especially the shared bots)

i think its because of the sharing site.
like this site: bf2012.weebly.com (sory for using your site, but its true)

this site shares coin collector, and other bots.
i reported this site and now, its close.

with the magic:
the only problem is. how to resolve the problem of magic coin generator? or simply coin collector?
here's my proposal.
make something new magic physics.
there should have an autoer catcher that can detect the cc.
the max # of players should be edited thoroughly. coin collector can be on a different level for more than 5 maps.
magics cant be gotten in regular coins. it can be gotten IN green coins (or any color that the mod will do.) there is a limitation of 5 coins per level. even though it resets/loads, the green coins don't reset/load, like how win block works.
here is the percentage proposal of getting into green coins: 1:500 the ratio of minor magics, 1:600 out of the minor magics are possible to be normal magics; and 1:2000 are out of the normal magics are possible to get rare magics. 1:4000 of the rares are possible to get into wizards. 1:5000 is possible to get into witch.

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midevilangel

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Re: No more energy!

wew. i saw the "storyline".. the conversation was actually like D: D:
but i agree to this:
remove the old magic physics and change it to something new
remove bots

think of the past... peaceful and happy...
but now... chaos of bots (especially the shared bots)

i think its because of the sharing site.
like this site: bf2012.weebly.com (sory for using your site, but its true)

this site shares coin collector, and other bots.
i reported this site and now, its close.

with the magic:
the only problem is. how to resolve the problem of magic coin generator? or simply coin collector?
here's my proposal.
make something new magic physics.
there should have an autoer catcher that can detect the cc.
the max # of players should be edited thoroughly. coin collector can be on a different level for more than 5 maps.
magics cant be gotten in regular coins. it can be gotten IN green coins (or any color that the mod will do.) there is a limitation of 5 coins per level. even though it resets/loads, the green coins don't reset/load, like how win block works.
here is the percentage proposal of getting into green coins: 1:500 the ratio of minor magics, 1:600 out of the minor magics are possible to be normal magics; and 1:2000 are out of the normal magics are possible to get rare magics. 1:4000 of the rares are possible to get into wizards. 1:5000 is possible to get into witch.

i am sry to say, but there are many flaws with that, if there are only 5 coins per lvl, then there cant be any mazes, green coins only magics i can agree, but they dont reset :/ that will be fine ONLESS chris would make a green magic coin door, then a big giant NO i would kind of reverse what you said to only 5 GREEN coins a lvl, and this part tell me if i was understanding this part correctly --> so you were saying that about the loading things, if you went to that lvl again (went out and in the lobby) the green coins would already be used? tell me if thats correct, but if thats what i thought you meant i would give a no to that because it would mess a lot of stuff up and you dont even want to know how much that can mess upp trust me... but good thinking though, love a good brainstormer thinking instead of complaining, (i'm fine with complaining then thinking, vise versa) but i just plain hate it when people just complain (sry got off topc lol)

XxAtillaxX

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Joined: 2015-11-28

Posts: 4,202

Re: No more energy!

In actuality, the problem with that, is that you can't "catch" the coincollector in every single room.

Coincollector uses random movement, just as anyone else does in EE.

Chris could, however, make it banish anyone who joins rooms with random IDs in EE, sending coins nonstop.

There could be multiple solutions to it, but removing bots completely isn't one of them.

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Master1

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Joined: 2015-02-15

Posts: 4,452

Re: No more energy!

I think I know what Chris is replacing it with. Remember a few months ago when he said that soon we'll be able to "unlock things"? See what I'm getting at

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