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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Someone very generous submitted a working magic coin generator that works.   He claims he owns it and wishes to submit it anonymously.   The bot will be greylisted.   You'll apply and have to have a good reason to get the bot.

Oh great! -sarcasm-

@ fail site:

We won't nag you though.   Hell we don't care.   If you get accepted, you can do what you want with it.   Apply below.

Even more splendid. -_-

I'm personally fed-up with all the bot sharing crap, as I think plenty of other people are --
I know that there are ways to breaking bots and rendering them useless, believe it or not.

Maybe a magic little fairy in the future might coincide with helping some shoe break bots.

Anyways, to answer you Atilla;   I'm not breaking any of my rules by doing that.   I made sure the owner had actually owned the tool, and I also decided since it was game breaking that I would greylist the bot.
5 people applied so far, and I have only given it to one.   Now, he can do whatever he wants.   I can't control him like you guys WISH you could control me.

So, I think this is going along exceedingly well.   I also have 5 more bots to scan and add if any good.

Last edited by Persona (Dec 3 2012 9:45:19 pm)

XxAtillaxX

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Anyways, to answer you Atilla;   I'm not breaking any of my rules by doing that.   I made sure the owner had actually owned the tool, and I also decided since it was game breaking that I would greylist the bot.
5 people applied so far, and I have only given it to one.   Now, he can do whatever he wants.   I can't control him like you guys WISH you could control me.

So, I think this is going along exceedingly well.   I also have 5 more bots to scan and add if any good.

>"I'm not breaking of my rules by doing that."
That's not an answer, it's a reply--and it just proves you only seem to care about your ego.
Prove me wrong.

No argument is needed, just be honest.
From all of what I see, you use other people's creations to try to make a name for yourself.
Regardless, why share anything that would break the game? That's just contributing to the problem.

Last edited by ?tilla (Dec 3 2012 10:25:14 pm)

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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Prboably, Its not like I credit them anyways.
That ofcourse is implying this is for my ego.

I -- and I truthfully do this to show that bots won't ruin the game.
The ONLY conterversal bot I could see ruining the game is CC2.

Then agin, I'll only give it to people who plan to use it for good.
If they do use it for bad,   Honestly, I think it is their fault.

XxAtillaxX

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

No, it wouldn't be just their fault.
That's like giving someone a gun and telling them not to kill anything with it.

There is no "good" use in this context. It's being completely unfair and you don't know whether
a person would distribute it everywhere or not.

Even then, you stated that you wouldn't care.

So the point is that, as long as you get your ego and reputation up with the nubs you're happy.
Why is that?
I think you see it this way:

"Bots don't hurt the game, maybe just some of the   community"
However you are reluctant to realize that without a striving community a game is rendered futile.

Last edited by ?tilla (Dec 3 2012 10:31:57 pm)

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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

So, here is the answer that took me about 20 minutes to wrap up and finalize.
So there is no way I can tell who owned the bot 100%.
However I use to the best of my ability to judge.

Someone claimed a tool (Stalker pro) and I knew it wasn't them, it was made by doh.
Why?   It had his name in the fricken title.

As far as the anonymity (read on), no one even knew the tool existed until I shared it, which kind of adds to the possibility that the submitter didn't lie about owning it.   He claimed a few of his friends had it, and it looked that way.
However the reason I allow anon submissions (they can submit it as anonymous, however still must put in proper ign) is because some people just prefer to share their bot so they don't get hate from the anti-bots.

I am willing to remove the bot under 4 circumstances (and 3 of them which is clearly stated on the rules page!)
1. Administrator asks me to remove it.
2. Owner asks me to stop sharing
3. Proof against the owner suggests he lied during submission.
4. It had a virus.

Proof can be stuff like:
1. Community telling me otherwise (there has to be SOME proof, like the so-called real owner standing up) and admitting it
2. Or the previous one indicated in the parenthesis.
3. Code
4. Photo/Video

Honestly, as I said;   I judge to the best of my ability.
There isn't anything I can do (otherwise   stopping this whole project, which we all know I am against..)

Honestly, weather or not doing this is wrong can only be interperated by what you believe in, aka there is no right reason.

Anything previous that contridicts this was lack of thought on my end.   This is my true thought out approach.

As for the last statements -- maybe just some of the community is out-approached.   The only people against this really are the anti-bots.
I do consider them.   I just don't agree with them.   I gave you my arguement why I shouldn't.

Weather or not this whole project is good or bad will depend on your philosph.
There again is no right or wrong answer.

Last edited by Persona (Dec 4 2012 9:27:59 am)

ugotpwned

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

You realize that you just gave everybody the download link of the bot...

XxAtillaxX

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

You realize that you just gave everybody the download link of the bot...

Yes but that's because Persona's special. This is just another one of his lulzworthy fails.

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capasha

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Haha. So much fail. Now it's out for everyone. Once again...
I know who it was that created it. The EE version link in the tool, that I deobfuscated goes to his homepage..
What a traitor :<

Last edited by doh (Dec 4 2012 2:15:37 am)

Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

It is easily found on the internet anyways using internet archives.   That was a mistake on my part.   Oopsies.   It's not like everyone was perfect.   Anyways;

I removed the image.   If you did get your hands on it, you got lucky.

gustav9797

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Please remove both of the GBots from your site. I don't want to spread that awful code anymore.

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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

There are no Gbots.   I had a guy claiming to be MasterWorldCreator submitting them, but I didn't add them.

gustav9797

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

I see them in your dropbox, zipped and ready..

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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Not my drop box.

crastopher

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Oh my, Atilla's mad... tip of advice Persona, I don't think you should get him mad, he has a good amount of coding power...

Anyways, Atilla does bring up some good points.

That's not an answer, it's a reply--and it just proves you only seem to care about your ego.
Prove me wrong.

No argument is needed, just be honest.
From all of what I see, you use other people's creations to try to make a name for yourself.

Regardless, why share anything that would break the game? That's just contributing to the problem.

I really never thought of it that way. And it seems that way from my perspective.

I -- and I truthfully do this to show that bots won't ruin the game.

Persona, if you can't see this with your own two eyes, you are not debating with this point of view. You sound a lot more like you want to share bots, as Atilla said, to ruin your ego; or as to destroy EE's community and EE's pros. If you have this mere reason to start this hatrid war, step down a bit. You're doing everything in your power, which makes it seem like you want to destroy this game. If you do this at a bit of a slower pace, you won't get so much hatrid. Right now, I am sort of towards anti-bots. Prove me wrong. Show me there is a better reason to share these bots other than to show that they don't harm EE, which is what I'm hearing everyone say they will.

    Remember, as long as EE isn't damaged by this, I am happy.
                                  ~Crastopher

Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

And honestly, You do bring up good points, but then lost me on the "I want to destroy EE".
I absolutly love being told what am currently doing, expessily when the opposite side assumes it is what I am doing.

I think what I am doing, and will continue saying -- is alright.   I have had 20 requests so far and only accepted 2.   Of which should be pretty well known.   I have also stopped distrubting the bot until the owner sends for me saying he submitted it.

Anyways, so far.   1500+ people have downloaded some sort of bot (weebly stats).   I don't see EE being laggy or any sort of change.   As for the damage the nero coin collector can do at the moment,   100+ energy max, and a few potions can be unlocked.

Last edited by Persona (Dec 4 2012 3:42:44 pm)

capasha

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Not my drop box.

Even if it's not your dropbox. You should listen to other peoples.
If gustav don't want his old bots to be shared. Then stop share the link to it.

Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

As stated before,   I have no control over those sites.
They can easily be found on download archives, anyways.

So;   I'll support this person.   This is part of the BF2013, not Bots Access.   (The sharing of sites anyways..)

Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

I'm not seeing you in my IP activity.
I guess your using a very old hotmail, or a not so old, but unused hotmail.

oh, I see you.   166.137.95.144

Last edited by Persona (Dec 5 2012 5:35:47 am)

capasha

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

I'm not seeing you in my IP activity.
I guess your using a very old hotmail, or a not so old, but unused hotmail.

oh, I see you.   166.137.95.144

That's a proxy. But good try anyway.

Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

After some time, I have taken every precaution and so far I don't even think Atilla have control over me, even if he did.
I did find a Trojan Horse but that was due to EE Animator.   If any accounts were comprimised, It isn't like I can not get them back anymore.

The movement will continue.

(And it appears the IP was another one of my devices most likely.)

ps..   I am suprised no administrator/moderator has looked at this yet and done something about it.
I reported it regardless.

Last edited by Persona (Dec 5 2012 4:46:05 pm)

XxAtillaxX

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

After some time, I have taken every precaution and so far I don't even think Atilla have control over me, even if he did.
I did find a Trojan Horse but that was due to EE Animator.   If any accounts were comprimised, It isn't like I can not get them back anymore.

The movement will continue.

(And it appears the IP was another one of my devices most likely.)

ps..   I am suprised no administrator/moderator has looked at this yet and done something about it.
I reported it regardless.

Actually, you won't be able to get one back because you didn't keep it up to date and Microsoft removed it from you, thus giving me the email.

You sure do like that report button, however.
By the way, I see nothing that is against the rules from what I have even contributed to this topic.
False reporting? Maybe that's worth a report.

Last edited by ?tilla (Dec 5 2012 4:55:25 pm)

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Persona

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Oh, so it is a hotmail/live account (I don't even use anymore)
And about the rule thing, I did it to give a mod attention.

Honestly, I think this thread should be watched if people like you are going so far to the point of actually hacking me.

XxAtillaxX

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Oh, so it is a hotmail/live account (I don't even use anymore)
And about the rule thing, I did it to give a mod attention.

Honestly, I think this thread should be watched if people like you are going so far to the point of actually hacking me.

Implying any "hacking" was because of this topic.
The concept of the "movement" is fine, the owner however was the target.

Last edited by ?tilla (Dec 5 2012 5:06:10 pm)

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Persona

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Well maybe not "hacking", but more like "account comprimising".
It is bad regardless, and is one of the main reasons I just cannot respect most of, or atleast a portion of the forum community.
Edit:Well regardless of your target doesn't make it any better.

Sure, hell.   Even if you were the one who did (and you can come on this) add the trojan;
Or maybe some how getting access;   all you do is put a bad reputation on the forum.

Sure, one may argue me sharing bots.
But this isn't going to -- per say do anything bad.   Last time was bad because I was sharing bots I didn't have permission to share.   This time I am making SURE I have permission to share (to the best of my ability).

And then would argue the whole gBot issue.   Those can be found on download archives anyways.   Remember the saying "What you post online will stick with you forever.."
That works for sources too.

So honestly, if anything;
I think this is personally OK.

I agree that if owners don't want me direct linking to BOTS, (excluding sites);   I think its great.   If the older movement was going on, I wouldn't have removed Processers Account Management.

Last edited by Persona (Dec 5 2012 5:17:30 pm)

lrussell

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Re: Everybody Edits - Bot Access

Well maybe not "hacking", but more like "account comprimising".
It is bad regardless, and is one of the main reasons I just cannot respect most of, or atleast a portion of the forum community.
Edit:Well regardless of your target doesn't make it any better.

Sure, hell.   Even if you were the one who did (and you can come on this) add the trojan;
Or maybe some how getting access;   all you do is put a bad reputation on the forum.

Sure, one may argue me sharing bots.
But this isn't going to -- per say do anything bad.   Last time was bad because I was sharing bots I didn't have permission to share.   This time I am making SURE I have permission to share (to the best of my ability).

And then would argue the whole gBot issue.   Those can be found on download archives anyways.   Remember the saying "What you post online will stick with you forever.."
That works for sources too.

So honestly, if anything;
I think this is personally OK.

I agree that if owners don't want me direct linking to BOTS, (excluding sites);   I think its great.   If the older movement was going on, I wouldn't have removed Processers Account Management.

You know, you should have taken bots down from the beginning, that's what gave you such a bad rep to begin with. As for GBot, just take down the DropBox link, weather it's yours or not, he doesn't want it being shared further, can't you respect that?

Also, do you realize what coin collector has done to EE in the past? But right on the website, blacklisted or not, you say you could care less what we do with it once we get it. All that shows is that you have no respect for the community and you're only trying to rebuild yourself a reputation.

I'm not against the bot movement, and LeBot shows it. Problem is you have no respect for the work and privacy of others, and don't think of the repercussions this may cause on the community.

So please, I ask of you to rethink your BM2013 plan, I'll even rebuild you a site where people can submit their bots, with a full administration panel. Written from scratch, I'll even host it.

~lrussell