EE Revival Contest

Anch · Before February 2015

*sighs*
Another contest/revival project...

mrjawapa · Before February 2015

Creature wrote:

Dont means cause someone that is mostly respected player made a contest that fail that least respected player cannot do a contest that ends correctly.
You have to understand this grammar, or just ignore.

Holy crap! After gathering extensive knowledge of hidden messages, talking to a code decipher from the U.S. navy, and holding a press conference with Cicada 3301, I have determined that you make no sense, and need to get a dictionary... maybe even a few English lessons. And I have no doubt that the your popularity will have an impact on who joins, and how it turns out. That's just how it works...

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Calicara wrote:

Also I don't think any of your current judges are even qualified to judge good levels, except Jawapa.

Oh shtawp it, your just trying to flatter me

Master1 · Before February 2015

skullz16 wrote:

Should you really assume that someone won't organise a contest right, when they haven't got a good nor bad reputation? Won't necessarily go good, but won't necessarily go bad. And so far, the contest going bad isn't all that evident, everyone seems to get all their reason by comparing this contest's organisers to the EEC organisers.

I'm not saying that they can't organize it correctly, I know they could. I'm saying that the way they have it organized right now, will end the same way EECCC has been ending.
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1. EECCC gave judges 1 week to judge, with some still being late. They plan on giving 2 days. That will never work.
2. Demoting judges who miss a round is stupid, you'll end up running out of decent judges, and will be forced to hire people who can't judge.
3. You only have 3 judges, 2 of which probably can't judge decent worlds correctly. You need more judges to get more accurate scores.
4. After failing to do something about these^, people will get upset by the bad scores and leave.
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It will die unless you change how it works

Last edited by Master1 (Mar 22 2014 1:37:32 pm)

mrjawapa · Before February 2015

I would just like to say the only thing I put together were the dates... And 2 days might be a bit too short... but then they need to work to get them turned in, and your judges were late because they are always afk or never bother to mess with it... like i saw buzzerbee today, and he still never turned his scores in... and week 4 worlds should have been turned in today (ik you delayed it, which is good). And until we start this we can change it. I'm open to what ever suggestions you have. I think the dates will be changed to allow judges more time, not a week, but more time.

Creature · Before February 2015

Calicara wrote:

Creature wrote:
Addi wrote:
It's pretty much my fair opinion about what I think about this contest as we just saw one of the most respected player, with a high reputation, fail doing so. Also, I post wherever I want.
Dont means cause someone that is mostly respected player made a contest that fail that least respected player cannot do a contest that ends correctly.
You have to understand this grammar, or just ignore.
Creature, if Master1 and the active pros can't run a decent contest, I don't understand how you seem to think you can. Also I don't think any of your current judges are even qualified to judge good levels, except Jawapa.

You need have hope.

skullz16 wrote:

Should you really assume that someone won't organise a contest right, when they haven't got a good nor bad reputation? Won't necessarily go good, but won't necessarily go bad. And so far, the contest going bad isn't all that evident, everyone seems to get all their reason by comparing this contest's organisers to the EEC organisers.

If someone creepy make a portal and give it for free, are you going to take this or no?
P.S. You will know what is related it for what you post.

GKAbyss · Before February 2015

A large problem with judging was lack of guidelines and the fact that judges did not understand that if they were judging, they would have to judge every level. Having inactive judges does not matter at all if you have more judges available than need to judge each round, as you can just pick like 5 active judges out of 10 that were prepared each round. This would also give some judges breaks. In addition, my contest was poorly organized and I did not set it up well. I'd intended to be able to be lazy once setting up the contest, as I was trying to have multiple organizers, but I did not finish all of my plans so my being afk all the time mostly ruined the contest.

Creature · Before February 2015

GKAbyss wrote:

A large problem with judging was lack of guidelines and the fact that judges did not understand that if they were judging, they would have to judge every level. Having inactive judges does not matter at all if you have more judges available than need to judge each round, as you can just pick like 5 active judges out of 10 that were prepared each round. This would also give some judges breaks. In addition, my contest was poorly organized and I did not set it up well. I'd intended to be able to be lazy once setting up the contest, as I was trying to have multiple organizers, but I did not finish all of my plans so my being afk all the time mostly ruined the contest.

I think my contest could be good if i had active judges, if one of the judges couldn't judge, we have some reserved judges(Emalton only now).

Muffin · Before February 2015

Team name: Alabama Vanguards
Team members: Muffin, Muftwin

skullz17 · Before February 2015

Master1 wrote:

skullz16 wrote:
Should you really assume that someone won't organise a contest right, when they haven't got a good nor bad reputation? Won't necessarily go good, but won't necessarily go bad. And so far, the contest going bad isn't all that evident, everyone seems to get all their reason by comparing this contest's organisers to the EEC organisers.
I'm not saying that they can't organize it correctly, I know they could. I'm saying that the way they have it organized right now, will end the same way EECCC has been ending.
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1. EECCC gave judges 1 week to judge, with some still being late. They plan on giving 2 days. That will never work.
2. Demoting judges who miss a round is stupid, you'll end up running out of decent judges, and will be forced to hire people who can't judge.
3. You only have 3 judges, 2 of which probably can't judge decent worlds correctly. You need more judges to get more accurate scores.
4. After failing to do something about these^, people will get upset by the bad scores and leave.
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It will die unless you change how it works

My post was aimed at failgirl, but after revising the facts about this a bit more, I understand better why it seems like it's going to go wrong. The thing that stood out to me was when Creature said the judges would be active, since that was a major problem in EEC. But other than that,
1. I agree that the judging should take place in the space of 1 week, not 2 days. 1 week worked for EEC, so I don't see why he would change it for this.
2. I agree,

GKAbyss wrote:

Having inactive judges does not matter at all if you have more judges available than need to judge each round, as you can just pick like 5 active judges out of 10 that were prepared each round.

3. Using GKA's strategy above, you might need more than 3, but even with so few, as long as there's at least 1 you can work out an average. But, I wouldn't say that 2 of them can't judge correctly, since there's no such thing as a correct or incorrect way to judge. I'm sure Creature knows the judges well and has his reasons for picking them, he did say he didn't just choose random judges.
4. Yep.
By the way, has anyone ever made a contest with public voting instead? Because recently having judges seems to have created problems.

Creature · Before February 2015

skullz16 wrote:

By the way, has anyone ever made a contest with public voting instead? Because recently having judges seems to have created problems.

The problem of public voting is the quantity, if have much participant, will have low public voting, if have low number of participants, contest will not be funny.

GKAbyss · Before February 2015

I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.

Last edited by GKAbyss (Mar 22 2014 2:11:07 pm)

Creature · Before February 2015

GKAbyss wrote:

I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.

Totally agreed, some peoples can vote for being friend.

Muffin · Before February 2015

Creature wrote:

GKAbyss wrote:
I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.
Totally agreed, some peoples can vote for being friend.

You didont add my team.

Creature · Before February 2015

Muffin wrote:

Creature wrote:
GKAbyss wrote:
I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.
Totally agreed, some peoples can vote for being friend.
You didont add my team.

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Tachyonic · Before February 2015

inb4 Creature and HeyImCool16 judge purely on bias.
but for the hell of it, sign me up

TEAM DRAGONFORCE.
Consisting of myself, Bimps and Kentiya

Last edited by Tachyonic (Mar 22 2014 3:21:05 pm)

Creature · Before February 2015

Tachyonic wrote:

inb4 Creature and HeyImCool16 judge purely on bias.
but for the hell of it, sign me up
TEAM DRAGONFORCE.
Consisting of myself, Bimps and Kentiya

You team can only be made of 1 or 2 members.

Tachyonic · Before February 2015

fiiiiiiine. Me and Bimps.

Creature · Before February 2015

Tachyonic wrote:

fiiiiiiine. Me and Bimps.

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mrjawapa · Before February 2015

I love how the only thing questioned is the judges... I still might adjust the time for judging, don't know yet.

Creature · Before February 2015

Tachyonic wrote:

Creature wrote:
Team name: DRAGONFORCE.
Would it be possible to add TEAM infront of it, and remove the full stop at the end? Not to be picky but "DRAGONFORCE." doesn't have the full effect.
Team name: TEAM DRAGONFORCE

Ok, i fixed it.

Master1 · Before February 2015

GKAbyss wrote:

I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.

team with me pls byss

add gkabyss to my team plz i force him to team ty

Raon · Before February 2015

Me, solo.

Teamname: The Forever Alone

Creature · Before February 2015

Master1 wrote:

GKAbyss wrote:
I've always been worried about public voting on the forums bc of alts and people not voting seriously when combined with a lack of voters.
edit: in general I would prefer to have judges bc I don't want to deal with problems like that.
team with me pls byss
add gkabyss to my team plz i force him to team ty

Raon wrote:

Me, solo.
Teamname: The Forever Alone

Added

Anch · Before February 2015

Raon wrote:

Me, solo.
Teamname: The Forever Alone

Can I join with you?

Last edited by anch159 (Mar 25 2014 3:16:23 pm)

Creature · Before February 2015

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