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#1 2018-10-18 15:16:14

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Are you happy with the contest results?


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#2 2018-10-18 19:01:37

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

the contest is over?

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#3 2018-10-18 20:04:16

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

contest was awful


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#4 2018-10-18 21:32:09

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Here's an better idea: Don't make a lame poll and instead just have a discussion thread where people can put in their detailed well thought out opinions.


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#5 2018-10-18 22:12:36

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Here's an better idea: Don't make a lame poll and instead just have a discussion thread where people can put in their detailed well thought out opinions.

Some people would rather answer a poll anonymously than writing on topic. It's not a bad thing.

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I was pretty satisfied with the contest until the judges decided to half **** the judging.

Norwegianboy did great since he did post the reviews, showing he sincerely played the level until the end and not use the god mode that was given to them to fly around in the entire map.

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#6 2018-10-18 22:22:02

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Here's an better idea: Don't make a lame poll and instead just have a discussion thread where people can put in their detailed well thought out opinions.

but this thread is both, isn't it?  a discussion and a poll.


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#7 2018-10-18 22:37:36

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

since when is the contest over am i late or something


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#8 2018-10-18 22:47:40

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

no i shouldve lost in round 5

also lr10 was bad

as was lr7


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#9 2018-10-18 23:16:42

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

lets make this a spam thread //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue


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#10 2018-10-19 01:40:57

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

ILikeTofuuJoe wrote:

lets make this a spam thread //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/tongue

what


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#11 2018-10-19 02:57:50

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

i could not be happier one way or the other


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#12 2018-10-19 03:43:54

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

I only want to know how the heck Musicman can make it into finals lol


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#13 2018-10-19 15:52:52

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I only want to know how the heck Musicman can make it into finals lol

Because he's good, lol.


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#14 2018-10-19 18:05:33

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

mutantdevle wrote:
2B55B5G TNG wrote:

I only want to know how the heck Musicman can make it into finals lol

Because he's good, lol.

He really isn't. He's honestly one of the worse participants out there, the only reason he got this far is because of the wack way the contest is designed.


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#15 2018-10-19 19:12:48

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

you guys are being very rude.  I mean I'm sure there are SEVERAL instances of better worlds losing out earlier than others, but MusicMan has a fairly decent world this round.


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#16 2018-10-19 19:47:40

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

I don't know about others but I strongly appreciate music man's worlds. They have a certain magic to them that I really enjoy.


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#17 2018-10-19 22:48:15

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

mutantdevle wrote:

I don't know about others but I strongly appreciate music man's worlds. They have a certain magic to them that I really enjoy.

There isn't any magic to them, they are fairly simple and well designed. Some of them are questionable but Musicman does deserve to win.

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#18 2018-10-20 06:21:21

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Maybe it is enjoyable for you guys but not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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#19 2018-10-20 14:49:15

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Maybe it is enjoyable for you guys but not me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I guess you're the weirdo


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#20 2018-10-20 19:18:46, last edited by Luka504 (2018-10-20 20:57:39)

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

I really do not understand what you guys like in musicman's levels. I'd write it off as me just having a differing opinion, as I truly believe musicman doesn't deserve to win this contest. I've said this a few times already and I'll say it again. Musicman is most definitely not one of the better contestants participating in this tournament. Pretty much every single world he's made for this contest has at least one glaring issue. I'm going to boil down all of his worlds with a brief description and the things that made me dislike those levels.

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#21 2018-10-20 21:10:45, last edited by azurepudding (2018-10-20 21:13:06)

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Luka504 wrote:

I really do not understand what you guys like in musicman's levels. I'd write it off as me just having a differing opinion, as I truly believe musicman doesn't deserve to win this contest. I've said this a few times already and I'll say it again. Musicman is most definitely not one of the better contestants participating in this tournament. Pretty much every single world he's made for this contest has at least one glaring issue. I'm going to boil down all of his worlds with a brief description and the things that made me dislike those levels.

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I seriously do not understand what you guys see in his levels. I don't understand what makes you believe that Musicman deserves to win. I need to understand why you guys like these obviously bad levels so much.

I disagre with you on this, Luka

I think Norwegianboy's review of the finals sums it up fairly well. (I kind of disagree with his blue coin complaint on Musicman's world, but everything else is mostly spot on.)

Musicman's final world was plain in the art department and could have added an extra block or two on some jumps (several times being one block short), but it was a fun concept and on a second playthrough, wasn't as hard as the first time.  Would have been nice to see the whole mini before attempting it- the final mini is a long string of "blind pits" which you most likely HAVE to die to learn the next part, which I file under "fake difficulty," but at least when you see it, you learn and know for next time.

Endquote's world, were "aim for the tiny switch" minis, with a chance to double flip them on some sections.  There were NPCs all over the place when you're given the poison effect for some reason, which means you either read and die a lot, or skip them completely..

There were also the "repeat this mini several times over" sections with a death limit.. and I remember how much you hated my mystery flavor world, except those minis were easy.  With high chance of failure, and having to finish TEN or more times, well.. yeah, it just wasn't fun.

End quote probably could have had a chance of winning if it weren't for the poison effects and only needing to beat each of the marathon minis just once.  Also if switches were replaced with team effects (maybe alternating purple and no team?), and better switch(team effect) placement.

Ultimately, I'd call Musicman's world hard, but fun, and End Quote's world hard, but unfair.  It's fun gliding up and down ramps in his world, but irritating continuously restarting on repeating minis on End Quote's, dying every few seconds.  Musicman's world felt much more like a proper skating world.

Maybe you don't think he was the best team, but this is how a tournament works in EE.  Theoretically the 33rd best team of 64 can make it to the finals, and even win if they put a tad more effort (even the 40th or so best team could as well).  Unlikely, but it's also unlikely the second best team will make it there either.


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#22 2018-10-20 21:44:18

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

I disagree with most of what you've said. End Quote's world wasn't better than MusicMan's in this specific round, however that still doesn't change my belief that Musicman is a bad level creator that doesn't deserve to win.
If the rules of the contest allow for the weaker person to stand victorious, then those rules are completely and utterly whack, plain and simple.


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#23 2018-10-20 22:23:58

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Luka504 wrote:

I disagree with most of what you've said. End Quote's world wasn't better than MusicMan's in this specific round, however that still doesn't change my belief that Musicman is a bad level creator that doesn't deserve to win.
If the rules of the contest allow for the weaker person to stand victorious, then those rules are completely and utterly whack, plain and simple.

Well, that's all that matters in tournament mode.  If his was better this round, he wins.  That's just how it goes.

No need to be rude to him tho.  Maybe he's not the best, but it does take some skill to win a 64 team tournament.  Take it to the judges if you think tournament was a poor choice for a contest in EE (which I think it was too).


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#24 2018-10-21 00:13:05, last edited by Norwee (2018-10-21 00:15:56)

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Luka504 wrote:

I disagree with most of what you've said. End Quote's world wasn't better than MusicMan's in this specific round, however that still doesn't change my belief that Musicman is a bad level creator that doesn't deserve to win.
If the rules of the contest allow for the weaker person to stand victorious, then those rules are completely and utterly whack, plain and simple.

In this tournament, it doesn't matter how "good" or "bad" a level designer is seen as by other people. Only their worlds. I couldn't care less who the creator of a world is if i play it and find out it's objectively terrible.
You seem to imply an desire for bias where we only allow "good level designers" to win the contest. That kind of elitism is precisely what i attempt to avoid with my judging. All of the judges thought Musicman's world was superior to End quote, that goes for many of the people's of the forum as well as seen in this poll --> https://strawpoll.com/ph88yyc4 (Kind of faulty, since it asks "which world is better" in the thread, but "who will win" in the actual poll, which are two entirely different questions, but i still think most of the people are in agreement that Musicman's level was superior in this round) Meaning that the process went right and proper.
That leaves us... What exactly is your complaint? That musicman shouldn't win because in your personal opinion he makes "bad levels?" To let End Quote win because they are a "better team" in your eyes?
That just feels like a completely bogus argument honestly. You even seem to grudgingly admit that you think Musicman had the superior world in this round.


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#25 2018-10-21 08:19:17

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Re: Are you happy with the contest results?

Anyways, GG to Musicman!!


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