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#1 2018-07-30 13:20:44, last edited by Kira (2018-07-30 13:57:21)

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Confuse effect

An effect that mix your arrow keys.

For instance Left turns up, down is left, up is right and right is down.

We have a lot of "buffs" added, why don't we add "debuffs" to spice things up?

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#2 2018-07-30 13:26:47

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Re: Confuse effect

Nice suggestion but flawed.
If you have a separate keyboard, then you can just turn it, making this feature a bit worthless. Also would up<->down left<->right be more plausible?


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#3 2018-07-30 13:38:30

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Re: Confuse effect

Wrong. It would be randomized. I don't get how having a separate keyboard would affect this effect in any way

#4 2018-07-30 13:41:06

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Re: Confuse effect

Kira wrote:

Wrong. It would be randomized. I don't get how having a separate keyboard would affect this effect in any way

I think what you described in the top post was basically changing the keys 90 degrees clockwise, so you could combat this easily by turning your keyboard 90 degrees counter-clockwise.


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#5 2018-07-30 13:48:06

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Re: Confuse effect

minam wrote:
Kira wrote:

Wrong. It would be randomized. I don't get how having a separate keyboard would affect this effect in any way

I think what you described in the top post was basically changing the keys 90 degrees clockwise, so you could combat this easily by turning your keyboard 90 degrees counter-clockwise.

What the hell are you even talking about? I'm seriously confused

#6 2018-07-30 13:49:54

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Re: Confuse effect

Kira wrote:
minam wrote:
Kira wrote:

Wrong. It would be randomized. I don't get how having a separate keyboard would affect this effect in any way

I think what you described in the top post was basically changing the keys 90 degrees clockwise, so you could combat this easily by turning your keyboard 90 degrees counter-clockwise.

What the hell are you even talking about? I'm seriously confused

What is this topic about? I'm confused.

#7 2018-07-30 13:58:16

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Re: Confuse effect

Anatoly wrote:
Kira wrote:
minam wrote:
Kira wrote:

Wrong. It would be randomized. I don't get how having a separate keyboard would affect this effect in any way

I think what you described in the top post was basically changing the keys 90 degrees clockwise, so you could combat this easily by turning your keyboard 90 degrees counter-clockwise.

What the hell are you even talking about? I'm seriously confused

What is this topic about? I'm confused.

Sorry Anatoly you need at least 10 iq to understand this thread.

On a serious note how is this difficult to understand? It's literally an effect that would randomize your arrow keys.

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#8 2018-07-30 14:06:44

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Re: Confuse effect

Kira wrote:

On a serious note how is this difficult to understand?

kek i'd say the same about minam's reply

tbh i dont feel like this would have many applications in ee, other than adding it to EP to make that and similar levels even more bs


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#9 2018-07-30 17:40:20

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Re: Confuse effect

shoulnd tbe random not far if yo ufall through it and need to quickly go to the > in order to not die


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#10 2018-07-30 22:33:30

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Re: Confuse effect

If this were added, it should just flip controls, not randomize them.  And.. turning keyboard wouldn't negate that, how awkward would that control? 

Anyway, not sure on any positive use of this.  Could you provide some uses?


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#11 2018-07-30 22:38:41

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Re: Confuse effect

Confuse effect:

Changes controls by rotating directional controls counterclockwise and reversing rotation controls. Left > Down, Down > Left, Right > Up, Up > Right, Rotate Left > Rotate Right, Rotate Right > Rotate Left.

#12 2018-07-30 23:15:19

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Re: Confuse effect

Kira wrote:

Confuse effect:

Changes controls by rotating directional controls counterclockwise and reversing rotation controls. Left > Down, Down > Left, Right > Up, Up > Right, Rotate Left > Rotate Right, Rotate Right > Rotate Left.

very helpful wow thank you.

again what are some uses this effect could give?  all it does is clunkify the controls.  unlike debuffs like curse and lava that allow a time limit, this just adds mechanical difficulty.


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#13 2018-07-30 23:16:09

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Re: Confuse effect

Stop faffing with the semantics and consider the suggestion as a whole.

It's a good idea. It could have an optional timer too.


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#14 2018-07-30 23:17:30, last edited by azurepudding (2018-07-30 23:34:42)

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Re: Confuse effect

Tomahawk wrote:

Stop faffing with the semantics and consider the suggestion as a whole.

It's a good idea. It could have an optional timer too.

???

how is this semantics

I asked for any uses this could have and he just re-explains the effect that i already understand.  In fact I am trying to consider the suggestion as a whole, that's why I'm asking for examples of usefulness so that I can be convinced.  Nothing was given, I asked for examples, and nothing was given again.  So now I'm leaning even more towards this having no use since even the suggester doesn't have any ideas of how it can be useful.


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#15 2018-07-30 23:33:18

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Re: Confuse effect

azurepudding wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:

Stop faffing with the semantics and consider the suggestion as a whole.

It's a good idea. It could have an optional timer too.

???

how is this semantics

I asked for any uses this could have and he just re-explains the effect that i already understand.  In fact I am trying to consider the suggestion as a whole, that's why I'm asking for examples of usefulness so that I can be convinced.  Nothing was given, I asked for examples, and nothing was given again.  So now I'm leaning even more towards this having no use since even the suggester doesn't have any ideas of how it can be useful.

The purpose of the effect is to make players leave your world faster.


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#16 2018-07-31 00:07:13

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Re: Confuse effect

Freckleface wrote:
azurepudding

The purpose of the effect is to make players leave your world faster.

How about it also inverts your mouse so you can't press the leave button //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

On a serious note: I see a lot of games with temporary confuse effects, but they are more fast paced PvP / PvE games, where confuse sometimes makes you run into the enemy. In a platformer like EE this feels like it would be more annoying than anything... (Unless I'm missing something good this could be used for)

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#17 2018-07-31 10:06:28

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Re: Confuse effect

LukeM wrote:
Freckleface wrote:
azurepudding

The purpose of the effect is to make players leave your world faster.

How about it also inverts your mouse so you can't press the leave button //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/smile

On a serious note: I see a lot of games with temporary confuse effects, but they are more fast paced PvP / PvE games, where confuse sometimes makes you run into the enemy. In a platformer like EE this feels like it would be more annoying than anything... (Unless I'm missing something good this could be used for)

A confuse-type effect is also usually used in games where the player has health.. in a game that's 1 hit and you're dead, you're better off just putting spikes in place of this proposed effect block.  At least lava and curse have other uses besides being a slow death, as they allow a given time to beat a mini, but this effect cannot be used in this way and will turn me away from a world just as would discovering a hookjump.


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#18 2018-08-02 06:08:10

Kira
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Re: Confuse effect

I want to make an endless pain with confuse effect.

#19 2018-08-02 12:09:45

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Re: Confuse effect

i dislike confuse effect because i can't see any new type of parkours/mini, its always a bad effect...

also easily exploitable, even if its random


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#20 2018-08-02 13:28:07

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Re: Confuse effect

Kira wrote:

I want to make an endless pain with confuse effect.

There are plenty of other ways where you can make your awful world even worse, there's no point in creating an effect that no good level would have.


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