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#1 2015-02-14 20:05:52

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Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Back when I was in MG, we always made the art first, and added minis into it.   I know stagecrew makes his together at the same time.   I've recently gotten in the habit of making the entire gameplay for my map before having art added.   How do you build your maps?   What do you do first?


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#2 2015-02-14 20:05:51

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

To make a map from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

#3 2015-02-14 20:05:50

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

I usually make some art, then add some minis, and keep going. I make some changes sometimes.


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#4 2015-02-14 20:05:49

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Tachyonic wrote:

To make a map from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

nothing in the op mentioned making a map from scratch. nice try though

#5 2015-02-14 20:05:48

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

When i'm doing basic art i prefer doing both at the same time, when i try doing """"""""""pro""""""""" art i try doing first gameplay better than art, otherwise it becomes an arrow invasion.


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#6 2015-02-14 20:05:47

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

I always do art first. Most of my levels are art levels with minis fitted in wherever they can fit. I should try doing minis first some time; it's something I've never tried before.


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#7 2015-02-14 20:05:46

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

I don't know anything about making art, but if i know, i would start with art, so i can plan mini to fit in art.


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#8 2015-02-14 20:05:45

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

I build the Art first but when I try making the art I try factoring a path for the minis along the way so that the mini-makers don't have to do that much work when finding a path or editing the art at all so they could add minis.


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#9 2015-02-14 20:05:44

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

AFK Zone. for sure.

Well not a world maker here, and even when I do, I do either one of them purely.

#10 2015-02-14 20:05:43

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Art first, minis next, nearly never change the art unless the mini MUST require it. Likely because i like making minis in enclosed areas (as shown by all my   very unpopular maps...)

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#11 2015-02-14 20:05:42

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Artfirst!

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#12 2015-02-14 20:05:41

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?


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#13 2015-02-14 20:05:40

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Aoitenshi wrote:

Artfirst!

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#14 2015-02-14 20:05:39

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

That depends if I make an adventure world (just little challenges, Tokebot's style) or level with few but more sought minigames, probably more harder.

For the first world style, I create art and minis in the same time, and I don't come back on art/mini after.
For the second world style, first I sketch, then I include minigames, and after that, I finalise the art.

But of course, in reality I don't alway do like that !

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#15 2015-02-14 20:05:38

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

KingOfTheOzone wrote:

Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?

Because then you know where to make your minis around it.

/Alex

#16 2015-02-14 20:05:37

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Alexthementalone wrote:
KingOfTheOzone wrote:

Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?

Because then you know where to make your minis around it.

/Alex

Yeah, but you could make a bunch of awesome minis, and put them together, and make art around them, too, that way you don't have to worry about making a good mini in an awkwardly shaped area.

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#17 2015-02-14 20:05:36

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.


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#18 2015-02-14 20:05:35

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

if you do minigames first, you find true harmony

#19 2015-02-14 20:05:34

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

skullz16 wrote:

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.

That's a good point, actually.


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#20 2015-02-14 20:05:33

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

KingOfTheOzone wrote:
skullz16 wrote:

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.

That's a good point, actually.

I disagree maps with just art and crap minis, is like i just need to open the map   and press "goto lobby", no reason to keep there if i don't like what im playing, no matter how well it looks.


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#21 2015-02-14 20:05:32

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Just take the bee and dazz route. You don't need minis if your art is fantastic enough !

#22 2015-02-14 20:05:31

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

ZeldaXD wrote:
KingOfTheOzone wrote:
skullz16 wrote:

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.

That's a good point, actually.

I disagree maps with just art and crap minis, is like i just need to open the map   and press "goto lobby", no reason to keep there if i don't like what im playing, no matter how well it looks.

Did you even read the posts?
Its about whether minis are VISIBLE on the minimap, not crap, as I make my worlds
Make art, use invisi blocks and arrows to make minis without ruining the minimap art

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#23 2015-02-14 20:05:30

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Re: Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Doesn't have to mean that they are all visible, if the art is done right.


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