Art/Minis/Both? Which do you build first?

Koto · Before February 2015

Back when I was in MG, we always made the art first, and added minis into it. I know stagecrew makes his together at the same time. I've recently gotten in the habit of making the entire gameplay for my map before having art added. How do you build your maps? What do you do first?

Tachyonic · Before February 2015

To make a map from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

Anch · Before February 2015

I usually make some art, then add some minis, and keep going. I make some changes sometimes.

Fdoou · Before February 2015

Tachyonic wrote:

To make a map from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

nothing in the op mentioned making a map from scratch. nice try though

ZeldaXD · Before February 2015

When i'm doing basic art i prefer doing both at the same time, when i try doing """"""""""pro""""""""" art i try doing first gameplay better than art, otherwise it becomes an arrow invasion.

skullz17 · Before February 2015

I always do art first. Most of my levels are art levels with minis fitted in wherever they can fit. I should try doing minis first some time; it's something I've never tried before.

Creature · Before February 2015

I don't know anything about making art, but if i know, i would start with art, so i can plan mini to fit in art.

Bobyy · Before February 2015

I build the Art first but when I try making the art I try factoring a path for the minis along the way so that the mini-makers don't have to do that much work when finding a path or editing the art at all so they could add minis.

ABC Boy · Before February 2015

~~AFK Zone. for sure.~~

Well not a world maker here, and even when I do, I do either one of them purely.

dragonranger · Before February 2015

Art first, minis next, nearly never change the art unless the mini MUST require it. Likely because i like making minis in enclosed areas (as shown by all my very unpopular maps...)

Aoitenshi · Before February 2015

Artfirst!

Koto · Before February 2015

Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?

TiKen · Before February 2015

Aoitenshi wrote:

Artfirst!

Lictor666 · Before February 2015

That depends if I make an adventure world (just little challenges, Tokebot's style) or level with few but more sought minigames, probably more harder.

For the first world style, I create art and minis in the same time, and I don't come back on art/mini after.
For the second world style, first I sketch, then I include minigames, and after that, I finalise the art.

But of course, in reality I don't alway do like that !

Alexthementalone · Before February 2015

KingOfTheOzone wrote:

Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?

Because then you know where to make your minis around it.

/Alex

Koto · Before February 2015

Alexthementalone wrote:

KingOfTheOzone wrote:
Art first seems to be the most popular answer..... why?
Because then you know where to make your minis around it.
/Alex

Yeah, but you could make a bunch of awesome minis, and put them together, and make art around them, too, that way you don't have to worry about making a good mini in an awkwardly shaped area.

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skullz17 · Before February 2015

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.

Fdoou · Before February 2015

if you do minigames first, you find true harmony

Koto · Before February 2015

skullz16 wrote:

Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.

That's a good point, actually.

ZeldaXD · Before February 2015

KingOfTheOzone wrote:

skullz16 wrote:
Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.
That's a good point, actually.

I disagree maps with just art and crap minis, is like i just need to open the map and press "goto lobby", no reason to keep there if i don't like what im playing, no matter how well it looks.

Fdoou · Before February 2015

Just take the bee and dazz route. You don't need minis if your art is fantastic enough !

dragonranger · Before February 2015

ZeldaXD wrote:

KingOfTheOzone wrote:
skullz16 wrote:
Well some levels focus more on the art, and the creator wants the minimap to just be a really nice looking piece of art, without showing any sign of minis on the minimap. That's the kind of map you get when you do art first, which is most of my maps, and seems like it's most of other people's maps as well. When you do minis first, you can see the minis on the minimap, but it still has art.
That's a good point, actually.
I disagree maps with just art and crap minis, is like i just need to open the map and press "goto lobby", no reason to keep there if i don't like what im playing, no matter how well it looks.

Did you even read the posts?
Its about whether minis are VISIBLE on the minimap, not crap, as I make my worlds
Make art, use invisi blocks and arrows to make minis without ruining the minimap art

Koto · Before February 2015

Doesn't have to mean that they are all visible, if the art is done right.

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