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current votecount if i didnt miscount:
[3] AllenCaspe9510: ElijahBaley, Lumi, Grilyon2
[3] ElijahBaley: Marshmallow Marshall, Nuclear Gandhi, Minimania
[3] Minimania: Pqwerty, 2b55b5g, ShadowsEdge
[1] Grilyon2: BuzzerBee
[3] Not voting: Onjit, AllenCaspe9510, Big Bon Jovi
a majority cant be reached right now
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I didn't think I had to actually come out and say this but I was mostly sus of Pqwerty because I thought he was bating us as a Serial Killer. I'm not sus on him anymore at all, besides the base level sus I have for everyone.
But still then, what anti town role can you be if not Mafia?
i was confused because i thought you meant that an anti town role cant be anything but mafia
also theres a 3 way tie of 3 votes between mini, elijah, and allen right now. i'll switch my vote to allen since he's the one that spoke the least among those three.
@Allen you also posted earlier, do you mind voting someone?
!vote Allen
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!vote BuzzerBee
why did you vote BB?
ElijahBaley wrote:But to answer your question, first buzzer bee.
This will not be a full overview or even totally true (more like the explanation after the fact I was alluding to earlier), but he has several posts where he promises to be active, says some things, and then says 'I'll be back.'Looking at their reads list, the thoughts and "investigation" that went behind it - I'd say he did plenty. At the very least, 10x more than most here, including you just ftr.
anyway BuzzerBee is mafia I do not buy the "he is busy" story one bit just get him
you said he did plenty as well, why did you vote him even though Elijah was basically saying the same reason twice?
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nothing is happening, so i went back and backread some pages, and honestly i haven't got a single clue on how to scumread anyone due to my confusion on this day (and partly also because im overwhelmed, like im not new to mafia but i rarely play serious mafia games or setups where a majority of people are VTs)
so what im do instead is vote someone and see what happens
i dont feel comfortable voting BB cuz that vote from Gandhi is still really weird to me, and i do believe that BB is busy. i can vote Gandhi but i'd rather wait for an explanation for now since he seemed pretty towny to me on day 1.
however i'll vote Marshmallow for now, mainly because im a sheep (and also due to impulse because i want something to happen lol). several people have suspicion on him recently (Lumi, Elijah, Minimania), and while im still not entirely convinced since i really doubt a mafia would vote an anti-town role early in the game, i think the reasons for suspecting MM are fair. i also want to see his reaction to being voted, if theres any
!vote Marshmallow Marshall
GET BUZZER BEE AND THEN MARSHMALLOW MARSHALL.
is there a reason for getting them in this order btw?
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what im gonna do instead* insignificant typo but whatever
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The reasons to suspect me are fair? Okay then, answer this:
What are the reasons to suspect me? Because even I have a hard time seeing them xD. What makes you not just a massive sheep hopping on a mislynch here?
the reasons:
Marshmallow Marshall feels awkward and uncomfortable.
His OMGUS early on felt unnatural and not like the kind of reaction I would expect from him. Like I saw nothing to suspect pqwerty and yet MM thought it was enough to warrant an OMGUS vote rather than like just going back and forth or something.
The suspicion onto Elijah also feels very misplaced.
b. I do not entirely trust that Marshall is town. I told Lumi that we would talk today about everything I said yesterday at EoD (which I did above in this post).
Here, MM takes up Lumi's mantle, so to speak, on his own authority and demands that I provide my list of reads, particularly my scumreads. It's clear to me that he either does not understand my gameplan or hasn't even read any of the multiple posts I made outlining it at best, or is misrepresenting what I've said at worst and is looking to push me entirely because of it. Opportunistic.
MM IS MAFIA, HE IS NOT BEING USEFUL THIS GAME. THAT IS HIS SCUM META 100%.
Minimania rescinded his comments on Marshall though, so thats not a reason anymore.
i'll unvote for now since i think Mini's idea of providing a hierarchy is a good idea, and i'll probably vote based on the results of that
i'll send mine later
!unvote
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i'll unvote for now since i think Mini's idea of providing a hierarchy is a good idea, and i'll probably vote based on the results of that
i'll send mine later
i think i should explain why i havent sent mine yet cuz i've just been wooting posts. this game is hard as hell to solve (at least to me) and im honestly burnt out lol. i tried reading ISOs and i couldnt put energy into doing that.
im still reading the game tho and im trying to think harder
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Shadow, who do you suspect if Elijah and Minimania aren't the mafia team
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2b55b5g wrote:i'll unvote for now since i think Mini's idea of providing a hierarchy is a good idea, and i'll probably vote based on the results of that
i'll send mine lateri think i should explain why i havent sent mine yet cuz i've just been wooting posts. this game is hard as hell to solve (at least to me) and im honestly burnt out lol. i tried reading ISOs and i couldnt put energy into doing that.
im still reading the game tho and im trying to think harder
i'll say that i currently townread Mini, he seems like he's genuinely trying to solve the game since he tries to read/reevaluate people (i think reevaluating is more important). he also suggested the hierarchy thing, it might not work but i still think it's a town-motivated suggestion.
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Here is @2b55b5g 's justification. But they explicitly said earlier they preferred an Elijah lynch.
This post is really targeted to @2b55b5g and @Nuclear Gandhi. Both contradicted earlier statements and made Allen an actually viable lynch over the other wagons. Buzz and Mini sort of have an excuse bc having a lynch *is* better than a no-lynch happening, and by the time of their votes there wasn't really an alternative.
i only switched votes when there was a 3-way-tie of 3 votes between Mini, Allen, and Elijah (Elijah switched from Mini to Allen later in the day). I figured a lynch probably wouldn’t happen if I don’t switch. I could’ve voted Elijah but Lumi said to keep him, so I followed and voted Allen.
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Gikkle wrote:Here is @2b55b5g 's justification. But they explicitly said earlier they preferred an Elijah lynch.
This post is really targeted to @2b55b5g and @Nuclear Gandhi. Both contradicted earlier statements and made Allen an actually viable lynch over the other wagons. Buzz and Mini sort of have an excuse bc having a lynch *is* better than a no-lynch happening, and by the time of their votes there wasn't really an alternative.
i only switched votes when there was a 3-way-tie of 3 votes between Mini, Allen, and Elijah (Elijah switched from Mini to Allen later in the day). I figured a lynch probably wouldn’t happen if I don’t switch. I could’ve voted Elijah but Lumi said to keep him, so I followed and voted Allen.
i didn’t explain that clearly when voting Allen, my reasoning was “he spoke the least” or something, but i still had what Lumi said in mind
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at least I can now publicly confirm that there's 2 mafia.
With only 2 mafia who know each other, Mafia are probably going to be less inclined to vote their own mafia
there’s only 2 mafia? meaning 1 mafia and 1 traitor? or 2 mafia who know each other, meaning 2 mafia and 1 traitor?
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and wouldn’t it be helpful to town if you say there’s 2 mafia in the game at the very start? just like how Pqwerty claimed anti-town? what reason is there to hide it? the only reason i can think of is to not let people mistake you as a mafia, but the same can be said to Pqwerty who claimed anti-town.
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Did you trust Lumi more than you scumread Elijah?
yes
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Intuition
lol you said it was a slip
i don’t believe you
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i’ll vote Shadow near EoD just in case anyone has things to say
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norwee said it's a balanced setup so i find that unlikely
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!unvote
Gikkle claimed mason here, and then a few posts later claimed to have protection (which i'm assuming would be along the lines of a bulletproof role?)
even the mason claim by itself was sketchy considering the only person who could back them up on it would be Bon Jovi, someone who has made a whopping four (4) posts so far
Shadow's informer claim is weak, but i don't think letting Gikkle be the one to hammer is a wise idea before they explain why they made two contradicting claims
i'm up way too late but i'll check back in when i wake up to see what Shadow and Gikkle have to say
can masons start talking to each other starting from day 1? just making sure i know how it works
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After sleeping, I sort of feel like Shadows is just being confusing instead of necessarily scum aligned.
im still having a hard time believing this, "intuition" just seems like a last ditch effort to save himself after contradicting himself
if he flips town, me, buzzer, and gandhi are probably suspicious
if he flips mafia, MM is probably suspicious
we get info either way, i dont see why we're voting someone with no votes with less than an hour left
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fair enough i guess. i'll read mini's ISO again and see if i should vote
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The people I got patently bad vibes from are Minimania and Marshmallow Marshall. Well, and you, to a degree.
was there anything specific for Minimania?
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alright i'll vote Mini then, if not enough people vote in the last few minutes i'll switch back to Shadow
!vote Mini
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uhhhh i dont think this is gonna work
!vote ShadowsEdge
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Oliwaz are you masons with Gikkle?
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Minimania wrote:ElijahBaley wrote:On the Normal page I only found one anti-town role that was explicitly Normal, and that's Miller, and that's not a role one would generally hide - more pressingly, it's not a role that one would want to hide from Mafia
Why would you not hide being a Miller from the Mafia?
If I was a Miller, I would claim that immediately so the cop knows if he checks me I will come up as Mafia. much better than claiming it after the fact
probably doesn’t matter but maybe the mafia caught on this somehow and killed Elijah because of it??
fruit vendor visited me last night (N2) btw
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