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Very interesting, but didn't you consider whether Shadow could also be vigilante?
I did. And based on all the reasons I've mentioned above, he's not the vigilante.
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I would at least have entertained the idea of Shadow being the vigilante, if he hadn't steered the attention away from Luka, when Luka looked scummy.
Lynching Luka over Andy would have been a better choice. Luka actually looked scummy, and would have given us clues into other players. Andy was lynched for being quiet.
I'll die on that hill.
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I trust Jawapa's claim
The reads do make sense as well
Lynching Luka over Andy would have been a better choice. Luka actually looked scummy, and would have given us clues into other players. Andy was lynched for being quiet.
Andy was lynched for being completely uncooperative and acting very scummy
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I kinda want to see if Shadow responds to this before i do anything tho.
But my vote is on them in spirit.
Oh yeah I should have mentioned, its not a great idea to immediately rack up votes on shadow
But I 100% expect him to claim vig or counter claim cop
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Do you think Shadow would be the milk man or the goon assuming he's mafia?
I have no idea. Like I said earlier, I almost wanted to suggest the vig kill me N2. If Shadow wasn't the milkman, then I assumed Luka would convert me to the mafia. Thus, replacing shadow, and taking a PR away from the town.
It still wouldn't be a terrible idea.
I had to clarify, but if the vig targets the milkman, and milkman targets a townie, the townie is converted and the milkman dies.
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Don't give him advice bruh.
Its not advice, and if its not obvious to the town what shadows reaction is going to be, then they shouldn't be expecting a win
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NorwegianboyEE wrote:I kinda want to see if Shadow responds to this before i do anything tho.
But my vote is on them in spirit.Oh yeah I should have mentioned, its not a great idea to immediately rack up votes on shadow
But I 100% expect him to claim vig or counter claim cop
Votes don't end the day so I see no reason not to do it
I can revote later if I change my mind
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I have no idea. Like I said earlier, I almost wanted to suggest the vig kill me N2. If Shadow wasn't the milkman, then I assumed Luka would convert me to the mafia. Thus, replacing shadow, and taking a PR away from the town.
Yeah, but if Shadow isn’t the SK then you will die regardless.
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Well this was not how I was expecting things to go.
I'm the Vigilante, I know how suspicious that looks right after being called out, but that's really all I got.
I defended Luka because I think he's town. You push the idea that Andy was less suspicious, but Andy was quite literally refusing to give us anything to work with, and while that can be a new player trait, Andy isn't exactly a new player.
Luka was only suspicious because they opted for the Hypo strategy, while I don't agree with the strategy, it's not necessarily scum-indicative, and I think that pushing a lynch on them would have been worse than pushing on Andy.
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And it would probably be quite suspicious if you didn’t die anyway. Because why would mafia leave you alive unconverted.
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If Milk man is theoretically vigged at the same night as he tries to convert someone. Will the convert succeed or fail?
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mrjawapa wrote:I have no idea. Like I said earlier, I almost wanted to suggest the vig kill me N2. If Shadow wasn't the milkman, then I assumed Luka would convert me to the mafia. Thus, replacing shadow, and taking a PR away from the town.
Yeah, but if Shadow isn’t the SK then you will die regardless.
The town should cover all bases.
If the SK assumed the mafia would kill me, and then the mafia decides to recruit me instead, then the town gets doo dooed on
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And it would probably be quite suspicious if you didn’t die anyway. Because why would mafia leave you alive unconverted.
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If Milk man is theoretically vigged at the same night as he tries to convert someone. Will the convert succeed or fail?
He told me the convert succeeds
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I don't believe in random shooting N1. I don't have enough evidence to go on to get a particularly good scumread on anyone. And if I end up being wrong, that'll just push the evils closer to winning.
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I personally would like someone to counterclaim Vig, it would give me insight on who I should shoot.
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Luka was only suspicious because they opted for the Hypo strategy
Luka was suspicious for pedaling the cop claim, and I know damn well Luka is smarter than that. It wasn't so much that he supported it, its that he made a rather hard push for it.
Your votes for Gabe were suspicious.
Your defense for luka is suspicious. I'm not trying to say Andy wasn't cooperating, but that wagon didn't feel right. And you jumped from Gabe to Andy with little reason, other than the Andy wagon was farther along.
And now I have a "dangerous" return on you, and Luka looks even more scummy now than he did at the end of D1.
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I personally would like someone to counterclaim Vig, it would give me insight on who I should shoot.
Why would mafia or anyone else counterclaim vig if you know you are the real town? Most stupid statement i’ve seen you make in a long time.
Maybe you are scum.
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