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#26 2020-06-04 15:17:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Yeah which is exactly why I'm pressuring him to do something, so he wouldn't be a throwaway.


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#27 2020-06-04 21:56:20

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Jesus, I can't keep up with this game anymore. There's so much back-and-forth and I have no idea what is being said or whom I should vote for.


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#28 2020-06-04 21:58:49

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Because you're an active part of the conversation, I'm just reading through it after a night of hanging out with friends


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#29 2020-06-04 22:28:31

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

To tell you guys the truth, I'm tired, my legs ache, and I lack the energy and willpower to try and make heads or tails of what's going on.

!unvote

Whatever happens, happens. I'll talk more in D2, but I have nothing more to say for today. Take this as you will.


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#30 2020-06-06 05:15:45

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Alright wew I'm back.

Luka504 wrote:

To tell you guys the truth, I'm tired, my legs ache, and I lack the energy and willpower to try and make heads or tails of what's going on.

!unvote

Whatever happens, happens. I'll talk more in D2, but I have nothing more to say for today. Take this as you will.

I wrote this post after I got home from a night with friends, and despite nothing bad happening that evening I just felt in a sulky and apathetic mood, and the last thing I needed to know was that I then had to read 2-3 pages just to share my opinion on what's happened if I wished to do so before d1 ended. After a short mental debate with myself, I said "**** it, I'm going to bed."

And to bed, I went. I got over my sulking fit and I feel better now.

Yesterday I got around to reading what I had skipped, and I think that lynching Andy was a solid choice to make, even though I myself would have still preferred Gabriel or even Norboy. Andy's posts were riddled with bad argumentation and emoji spam, which was scummy as all hell at worst and anti-town at best. Ultimately, because a majority is not needed to convict someone, I'd be willing to wager most, if not all, of the mafia members avoided voting for Andy to avoid drawing suspicion on themselves. I know I'm sorta shooting myself in the foot by saying that, as I didn't vote for him either, but that theory is the one that makes the most sense to me.

Pqwerty and Shadow are both town leans for me. They've been helpful contributions since the game's start. I'm not sure how to feel about Norboy right now, and I could go either way really. I'll consider him as a null or slight scum lean for now.

Regarding the two deaths, I want to go over Peace's first. I believe that he was killed by the serial killer, as I seriously doubt all three mafia members would agree to kill peace of all people, especially with no nurse to stop them from killing a better target. It is more likely he's been killed for **** and giggles rather than any actual reason, because after unblocking him and actually reading through his trash, I found what I had expected; peace said very little of worth. In the one game I was a serial killer I went after peace just to **** around, not because he was the best person to kill or because he was a helpful contributor to the conversation, so it wouldn't surprise me if that happened here, too.

Why 2B was killed, I'm not quite sure. If my previous hypothesis is correct, then 2B must have been killed by the mafia. My first guess would be that 2B hit that sweet spot where he was just inactive enough to have little connection to others but active enough to be actively participating in the game, making him a good kill that doesn't give much information to the town. I have another theory, mind you, one which I'll have to wait for a bit before I can talk about it.

Overall, I'm going to start this day off by

!vote Gabriel

Jesus Christ. Say something already.


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#31 2020-06-06 10:36:49

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

Can we like, get luka off?

I appreciated the gesture but I don't think the host would allow such displays at his sleepover party.


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#32 2020-06-06 11:29:50

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I don't get why you're speculating about which one was the SK/Maf kill. How will that help us? That could easily just be busywork to make yourself seem like you're solving.

Really? That's what you're going for? Come on.


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#33 2020-06-06 11:34:07

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I personally think that luka exposed himself

How so?


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#34 2020-06-06 11:35:55

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When I say, personally, its personal. Its not a threat I suppose.

Yes, and I'd like to know why you personally think that.


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#35 2020-06-06 14:10:21

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Ok. What does that tell us?


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#36 2020-06-06 14:12:12

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

**** I hit the submit button too fast. What I was going to say is:

It may not be an earth-shattering discovery, but it could still be a clue as to who the serial killer is. Why are you trying so hard to dismiss it as nothing, norboy?


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#37 2020-06-06 14:17:40

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

I personally think that luka exposed himself

Luka504 wrote:
AllenCaspe9510 wrote:

When I say, personally, its personal. Its not a threat I suppose.

Yes, and I'd like to know why you personally think that.

Also, I wanna bring this up again because this is suspicious. Allen said that I "exposed myself" but when I asked for more details he made a poor reply and just went offline.

I still want an answer, Allen. How did I "expose" myself?


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#38 2020-06-06 14:58:05

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Bruh talking with you gets so annoying sometimes.

Look, it may not be all that important, but I still it's still worth noting. By itself, I agree this information may not be all that revealing, but there's always a chance that it may be more useful later, so it's at least worth a brief consideration.


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#39 2020-06-06 15:10:19

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Because every time I talk to you about something I just feel like the discussion is going nowhere and that I am wasting my time.

Even though I know it to be false, it legit feels like you're just trying to provoke me.


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#40 2020-06-06 15:11:03

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Like jfc i just wanna solve a mystery but I keep getting dragged into petty arguments about a piece of speculation i made


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#41 2020-06-06 23:28:23

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I believe Jawapa's claim. From a statistical perspective, Shadow has a 75% chance of being scum of some sort. Though, if Shadow is mafia, then I'm pretty much sunk, as I doubt anyone is going to believe what I have to say after he flips.
Since there are decent odds I'll get game ended on the second night, I might as well just say what's on my mind.

mrjawapa wrote:

At the beginning of Day 2, Luka tried to get himself derp-cleared, by trying to make it look like he didn't know how many mafia members there are. He's playing dumb, so he has something to fall back on.

Not at all. The reason I believed there were three mafia members was because of how Minimania worded the mafia goon on the OP:

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Goons are referred in plural here. This made sense to me as one mafia PR + 2 Goons seemed more logical from a balance perspective than one mafia PR and one Goon. Truth be told, I should have paid more attention to the roles and the setup, but I genuinely thought that the game was just going to be a standard mafia game so I found little use in paying much attention. All I can really say is I'm sorry.

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As mentioned above, Luka has enough experience in Mafia to know that this plan is overly complicated, and overall terrible for the town.

Sorry, but even now I think that a hypo cop strategy could have worked, provided it garnered more public support, which it didn't. Of course, the strategy had drawbacks and ways it could have gone wrong, but you need to take a couple of risks if you want to reap the potential rewards. Perhaps I am being dumb, but that is what I believe.


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#42 2020-06-06 23:37:52

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Yes, I know, jawapa. That was the gaffe on my part. 2 goons seemed more reasonable than one in a 13 player setup, so when I read "goons" I just assumed it meant two, but because of my previous mafia experiences I immediately knew that there couldn't be any more than 1 of every PR.


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#43 2020-06-06 23:42:56

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Truth be told, I **** everything up royally. I am a townie, but my actions scream scum. I don't know how I've grown to become so moronic, and there's nothing I can do about it but try and salvage what I can.

I'll try to be active and to share as many reads as I can so that I could maybe have some use after I'm dead.

I'm sorry, everyone.


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#44 2020-06-06 23:56:21

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mrjawapa wrote:
Luka504 wrote:

I'm sorry, everyone.

Stop guilt tripping, and start healing the wounds you've created.

We don't have to lynch you, so long as you stop murdering our towns people

Okay, what would you suggest I do to fix things?


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#45 2020-06-07 21:38:42

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I've given up on the game because there genuinely is nothing more I can say that either won't be dismissed entirely or will be of little to no use. Jawapa indirectly said that there's not anything I *can* really do to fix things, so I see no reason to try.

I am town, but I have no way to prove that and no fancy power role to claim.


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#46 2020-06-08 10:44:01

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

What would task gain by lying though? Shadow's been exposed and vigilante is the only role he can claim, so it makes sense for him to do so. If task is scum, then that means he's risking getting counterclaimed or shot the next night for a wagon that was likely going to succeed even had he not intervened. That doesn't make much sense.


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#47 2020-06-08 13:56:09

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

I think norboy is shadow's scum buddy.

Town norboy would have been up shadow's **** by now, but he keeps trying to stall for time so shadow could survive the lynch today.


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#48 2020-06-08 14:04:57

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NorwegianboyEE wrote:

Task would be goon anyway, not milk man.
And if i was Task’s team. Why would i make him claim vig when we could literally just keep up the pressure on Shadow and make him get lynched?

Okay, why would I make him claim vig if I was his scum buddy?


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#49 2020-06-08 14:11:45

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Re: Mafia 48 - Birthday Party Game Thread [MAFIA VICTORY]

Exactly my point. Task literally gains nothing from claiming vigilante if he was scum. If shadow is telling the truth then task will inevitably get lynched the following day, so he is actively sabotaging his own faction by lying about it.


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#50 2020-06-08 14:13:17

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Although my best guess is that he did it to ensure a mislynch so milk man could use his recruiting ability. And that person is most likely you in that case Luka.

If shadow is town, the myslinch was already secure. He need not butt in.


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