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#1 2020-02-20 00:58:44, last edited by mrjawapa (2020-03-04 15:49:39)

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Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

- I'm not enforcing any rules on inactivity. That will be governed by the players.
- Day phases will be 72 hours, night phases will be 48; give or take depending on my schedule.
- My messages will be in this color. Do not use it, or I will be angry.
- All votes should be inside an h-tag. I'm not going to be strict about this, but not doing so could mean your vote gets missed.
- Don't do anything to **** off Tomahawk.
- If you're not a player, don't post here. If you're dead, don't post here.
- This is a game, don't be a **** to others.
- A lynch will occur when someone has collected a majority of votes. If no majority is met, no one will be lynched. If a majority is met, players may continue to post in the thread until it is locked.


This is my first time hosting a mafia game. I will probably make mistakes. PM me if I do, so I can fix them.


All night actions should be sent in a PM, including the mafia's.


If you have any questions, PM me.



Alive Players:
1. Buzzerbee
5. Onjit
9. Kirby


Graveyard:
4. Kira - Doctor
2. Crybaby - Sheriff
11. pqwerty - Vanilla Townie
8. Shadow - Mafia Framer
3. 2B - Godfather
6. NorBoy
7. Peace
10. Diff55


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#2 2020-02-20 18:13:19

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Pqwerty wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:
peace wrote:
NorwegianboyEE wrote:

If we lynch one town, SK targets town,

why do you asume sk targets town an dnot mafia?

I was speculating on the worst possible scenario for town.

So, if that's the case I think a No-Lynch > Randlynch today. Also, I'm at school rn so I'll try and see who seems scummy when I get out.

I thought nolynching was always worse for town, since it just gives maf/sk a free kill to start the game with. at least with a lynch we have a chance. we just sit around we're going to get massacred.


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#3 2020-02-21 05:15:33

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

was gonna try to post some reads but I guess I've missed enough that that's not really the direction we're going anymore? how many PRs we got in this game?


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#4 2020-02-21 20:26:16

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Seem to remember Kira doing stuff like this in a recent game when he was being voted, but I can't find anything back til 38 and I don't think it was before this. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? What did Kira flip in that game?


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#5 2020-02-21 20:26:54

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Sorry, 36, I went back to 36.


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#6 2020-02-21 20:32:49

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Wait no it was 36 that I'm thinking of, was getting too close to the ISOs. By the end of the day he was trying to convince everyone he was SK when he was the Mafia Roleblocker.


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#7 2020-02-22 23:41:57

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Do people without abilities need to vote or?


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#8 2020-02-24 13:26:03

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Sorry just had a lot going on. I'm trying to keep up with the game and I'll go through and re-read the topic, hopefully be able to put something together. Right now my only thought are that you are confirmed town and none of our pool of vanilla townies strikes me as horribly suspicious without digging down into it more.


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#9 2020-02-25 00:23:16

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Alright but we might get a replacement who's more helpful. If he won't be replaced, then he'll be modkilled. Either way, since he hasn't been active we really don't gain any information, we either get lucky or we get unlucky. Either way, there are better uses of our time.


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#10 2020-02-25 18:30:24

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

What is RL?

Oh Role List. Because I was too lazy to check the role list. And yeah I was going to post reads but then we decided to mass claim so I didn't see the point. I've posted my current thoughts, that's still all I got for the moment til I find a chance to read through the thread.


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#11 2020-02-25 19:44:58

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

yep. I plan on continuing to say this until it actually happens


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#12 2020-02-26 01:25:29

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Unless Norboy can read minds, he's 100% town/vet right now. Vet is the only safe role to claim, since it's immune to the mafia. It's basically an unkillable inno child. It's not dangerous at all for someone to claim it, if it's actually their role. If Norboy's not vet, then that means on D1 before any possible night actions (which btw none of them exist that would tell roles in the first place), Norboy counterclaimed someone who was claiming the only safe-to-claim role, having no way of knowing that they were lying, and somehow also not being counterclaimed by the third, actually legitimate vet.

It's reasonable for scum to have tried to counterclaim vet to try and eliminate vet, but that's only got a 50/50 shot of working and guarantees the death of the scum that's counterclaiming. But since Kira flipped doc I'm just really struggling to see any scenario where Norboy isn't reliably town, because see above.


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#13 2020-02-26 06:35:56

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Alright time to actually play this game.

After re-reading the whole thread, I think Onjit's looking the most scummy. I didn't like the way he was playing through D1 and the massclaim, especially after Kira started taking on all the heat. Seemed like he was trying to push the vote towards him more than Kira was managing all himself. Speaking of, why are we not still massclaiming? I realize we didn't expect Kira to actually flip doc but I'm not really seeing why that halted the massclaim.

IIRC buzzer, onjit, and 2B made posts with comments at least vaguely against additional massclaiming. Norboy also did the same, honestly I don't blame Buzzer for suspecting him. I would be doing the same if rn I weren't completely confident that he's town. But yeah. Onjit's giving me the biggest scummy vibes. Pqwerty gives me a bad feeling but I don't have anything solid, mostly because he hasn't posted much more than I have, and this has definitely been like my least active mafia game ever. I'm not sure I like the way Buzzer is playing but I do think he's town overall.

Peace confuses me. He's acting a bit odd but I'm not familiar with this type of oddness. He's not playing like he did last game, he's not playing like he did as Mafia in 36. Is he maybe the SK? I think that'd be the first time he's been an independent scummy role so that might explain some of the oddness.

So in neat list form:

Norboy - Is town.
Buzzer - Probably town.
Shadow - ?
pqwerty - bad vibes
2B - one bad note, hasn't added much
Peace - Literally what is he doing
Onjit - Scum

ShadowsEdge wrote:

Onjit is because he just seems to have a more apathetic attitude this game, D1 he just followed the wagon and said random comments like "I'm gonna be mad if Kira actually is the Doctor."

I wouldn't label the posts I've seen from Onjit as apathetic. Norboy pointed out at one point that Onjit was playing fairly seriously D1, and he did seem fairly aggressive when Kira was spiraling himself into the grave. Hasn't really been seen since then, wish he had posted so I'd have something to go off of for D2 but D2 seems quite a bit less active overall.


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#14 2020-02-26 15:24:52

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

ShadowsEdge wrote:

I have a bone to pick with Different's reads. Different's reads are all vibes (From what I can see). This far into the game, I find it odd that his only read that isn't just based off a vibe of the sort (That he articulates), is Peace.

??? That's not at all what my reads are. Onjit, I'm against because of the way they acted on D1. Buzzer, while I don't like his playstyle, isn't making the same kinds of posts as Onjit. Peace isn't playing like peace has ever played before. Almost everyone else has hardly posted. Pqwerty, has barely posted more than I have. I've got a pretty big null on 2B except the fact that he made a post against the massclaim, which I'm now ignoring after reading other people's explanations. That was also my main pain point against Buzzer, I'm pretty confident he's town now. Kirby doesn't even actually exist. The only vibe-based read I made was towards Pqwerty.


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#15 2020-02-26 15:25:24

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

"they", why do I keep writing "they"


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#16 2020-02-26 15:26:22

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

When I made my reads I had to change like 5 of those to actual pronouns, blamed it on it being late but I'm still doing it.


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#17 2020-02-26 17:00:20

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Alright now Peace is even using this "CC" acronym what in the world does it mean


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#18 2020-02-26 17:14:44

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Dang didn't realize we were that short on time

!vote Onjit

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#19 2020-02-26 17:39:03

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

I read the whole thread why does it still feel like I'm missing everything

!unvote Onjit

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#20 2020-02-26 17:41:50

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Wait are they literally the only two people who have placed any votes at all? Where's everyone else?


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#21 2020-02-26 17:45:06

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

!vote Peace

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#22 2020-02-26 17:49:54

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

peace wrote:

do you only unvote becuase your 2 scum reads placed a vote on someone you scumread?

Yes because IMO if two of my scum reads are trying to push for the third, I'm probably wrong about the third. I'm not suddenly town reading Onjit but that makes me uncomfortable enough voting for him that I'd rather move my vote onto you.


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#23 2020-02-26 17:54:28

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

If you're looking for specifics I left my notes back at the dorms but you're generally not playing like your town self, although you're also not playing as your scum self. But considering the last (only) game I saw you play scum was a pretty out of the ordinary game, that could explain why you're not playing the scum game I recognize. Either way I'm pretty confident you aren't town.


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#24 2020-02-26 18:24:01

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

Why would we think Kirby is SK? Yeah there was only one kill last night but odds are they both went after the same juicy target.

Also 2B there's a fairly large problem with your reads. There's 4 scum in this game but you only have 1 even leaning in that direction.


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#25 2020-02-26 18:24:37

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Re: Mafia 42 - Game Thread - Day 4

2B55B5G TNG wrote:
peace wrote:
2B55B5G TNG wrote:

Wouldn't re-reading the game gives us more info? Why are you so inclined on lynching Kirby? Scum trying to get rid of inactive town?

sure btu we have 2 (not counting vet) killign roles and only 1 kill so either our blocker got lucky or kirby is sk/maf thats why i went aigenst them

What made you change your mind and vote Onjit tho, you still didnt explain this

He did

peace wrote:

well i coudl now say but im not scum! btu that isnt goign to work so i guess okay thats your opinion? tbh im alos not really set on your slot but imnot sure reason i voted onjit wasthat was th eonly wgaon (besid emy vote on kirby) and i diddnt want a no lycnh bcuase thats free kill for sk/maf and lynchign gives our prs information to wokr wiht for the next night


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