Mafia 38 - The Twelve Days of Christmas [Game Thread | Town Win!]

ShadowsEdge · 2019-12-22 04:09:52

The Twelve Days of Christmas

Background

Santa Claus is coming to town! As the town raises the masses to celebrate the evergrowing Christmas Spirit, a threatening force beckons.. A set of Scrooges hidden within the town have risen, and forces against all that Christmas stands for beckon in the way of the Christmas Celebration. Christmas is coming, and these spirits threaten to destroy the very nature of Christmas itself. It's up to you to stop these evil beings, and take back Christmas!

Plurality lynch will take effect. Overtime will not take effect. In other words, if there is a highest votee, they will take the rope, if there is a tie, or no vote, then no one will take the rope.

Rules

1. Respect everyone. Mafia is a game meant for fun.
2. Gamethrowing is not allowed.
3. Discussing the game outside of this thread, or any moderator-sanctioned threads, is not allowed.
4. This will be my modtext color. Refrain from using it.
5. Try to actively participate in discussion. If you're inactive for more than 24 hours, you will be prodded for inactivity. After 24 more hours, you will be subject to replacement.
6. If you are killed, use the Graveyard thread.
7. Make night actions via a PM to me.
8. If you know of anyone breaking the rules, PM me with proof and I will deal with it.

Roles

▼Roles

Town

Caroler - Special (Townie)

You are aligned with Town.
You are a simple villager that was blessed by the presence of Santa Claus. You want to be invited onto Santa Claus' crusade to bring back Christmas to this damned town. To help the mission, you go caroling during the night in order to help aide the mission.
Action: You may sing at a player's home. If three Carolers sing at a player's home, the target's action will be buffed for that night only. (Some exclusions apply).
Upgrade: You will be gifted a random town role.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Innocent Child - Special

You are aligned with Town.
You are a simple villager that was blessed by the presence of Santa Claus. Everyone knows your heart is pure as gold. To help the mission, you go caroling during the night in order to help aide the mission.
You cannot be killed by Krampus.
Action: You will be modconfirmed as the Innocent Child on Day 1. You may sing at a player's home. If three Carolers sing at a player's home, the target's action will be buffed for that night only. (Some exclusions apply).
Upgrade: You will be gifted a random town role. You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Although The Innocent Child is labelled as Special, it can fill one of the Town Random slots. It's labelled as Special because a Caroler cannot be upgraded to an Innocent Child.

Santa Claus - TS (Santa Claus/Mason)

You are aligned with Town.
You are Santa Claus, the holly jolly spirit of Christmas itself. You came to this accursed town in hopes of rejuvenating the lost Christmas spirit that once existed. During the night, you go around, gifting presents to the town in hopes of lifting the holiday spirit. Go forth, and save Christmas!
You have conversion immunity.
Any gifts to the Innocent Child, Mrs. Claus, Blixen, Scrooge, Lunatic, or Elflings will fail.
You may only gift to each player once.
Action: You may gift a player a role each night. If the targetted player already has a role, their role will be permanently buffed. You share a PT with Mrs. Claus here.
Upgrade: You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Mrs. Claus - TS (Santa Claus Backup/Mason)

You are aligned with Town.
You rode into town with Santa Claus in order to rejuvenate the Christmas spirit in this damned town. Though others rode in with your brigade, you and Santa Claus seem to have forgotten who they were, as they all continued to blend in with the town. Despite it all, you and Santa Claus kept a connection in order to band together to rejoice the season.
You have conversion immunity.
Action: You will take on the role of Santa Claus upon his death. You share a PT with Santa Claus here.
Upgrade: You take on the role of Santa Claus. You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Rudolph - TS (One-shot Retributionist) (Unique)

You are aligned with Town.
You are one of Santa's most trusted Reindeer. You were brought into the town to rescue the spirit of those damned by the evil spirits of this Town. You were brought in order to bring back the spirit of Christmas to this accursed town, although, in the midst of the situation, you seem to have lost track of Santa Claus. Take back the spirit, and rejoice the season.
Action: You may rescue a graveyard player.
Upgrade: You will be allotted a second revive.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Blixen - TS (Vampire Hunter/Doctor) (Unique)

You are aligned with Town.
You are among those who rode into the town with Santa Claus. You know of the Rogue Elf's true intentions in coming to this Town, and you're here to put a stop to it. Each night you check players to see if they've turned to the Rogue Elf's tables. If they have, you turn them back to their original role. There's just one little problem: with the amount of time you have to pull off such a feat, you can only check each player once.
You have conversion immunity.
Action: You may check a player at night. If they are aligned with the Rogue Faction, you will return them to their original role.
Upgrade: You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Elf - TI (Faction Cop)

You are aligned with Town.
You are one of Santa's devoted workers. You spend day and night working to find out who is Naughty and Nice for Santa Claus. There's only one problem: You seem to have lost Santa Claus in the midst of the situation. Regardless, you kept on, and looked towards those you saw as Naughty or Nice.
Action: You may investigate a player each night. You will be told if they are Naughty or Nice. Neutrals will appear as Nice.
Upgrade: Your investigations will bypass Framings.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Frosty the Snowman - TK (Vigilante)

You are aligned with Town.
You are part of Santa Claus' gang. You rode into town with the Holly Jolly Man himself in order to bring back the spirit of Christmas to this cursed Town. You have been entrusted by Santa Claus to use your extraordinary ability of the tundra to take down the evil spirits of Christmas that beckon among this town.
Action: You may freeze a player. They will die of hypothermia in the morning. You may only shoot twice.
Upgrade: You will roleblock your target as well.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Angel - TP (Rolestopper)

You are aligned with Town.
You are a descendant from the Heavens themselves. You were called upon by Santa Claus himself in order to save the spirit of Christmas that has long since been lost in this town. You spend your nights protecting the citizens of this town in hopes of halting the evildoings of the Scrooges of this town.
Action: You may protect a player. All actions against them will be blocked. You may selfprotect once.
Upgrade: Alongside protecting your target, you will randomly protect one of your target's visitors as well.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Town are eliminated. (Mafia + Krampus).

Mafia

Stickler - Special (Goon)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
You hate Christmas. Santa Claus has come into town, and you and your gang have vowed to take down the Holly Jolly spirit of Christmas. You spend your nights killing people that cherish the feeling of Holiday Spirit, because you yourself cannot feel it, in hopes of destroying the Holiday spirit that others feel.
Action: You may kill a player at night.
Upgrade: You will be gifted a random Mafia role.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Devil Child - MS (Godfather)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
Your heart is as pure as Gold. Well, that's how the town sees you. In reality, your heart withered long ago. You hate Christmas, and all that it stands for. But to the expectations of the town, everyone sees you as a child that can do no harm. Despite that, you spend your nights taking the lives of those who cherish the Holiday Spirit that you lost long ago. Take your revenge on Christmas..
You have detection and nightkill immunity.
Action: You may kill a player at night.
Upgrade: Alongside your detection immunity, you will be gifted a random mafia role.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Scrooge - MS (One-shot Converter) (Unique)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
Christmas has long eluded you. You don't understand the meaning of the Holiday Spirit that the rest of the town shares. Eventually, the joyous behavior of the rest of the Town got to you, and you began to hate Christmas. Their joy in the season only mocked your inability of that Holiday Spirit. To this end, you spread your Holiday-Mischeer to others in order to turn them to the same level of hatred you feel.
Action: You may convert a player to Mafia. They will become a Stickler by default.
Upgrade: You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Jack Frost - MS (Roleblocker/Blackmailer)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
You long for fame and glory. But alas, Frosty the Snowman was always favored over you. You hate the Christmas joy that everyone feels, because you yourself never felt it. As the twisted fate tells it, you spend your nights using your subzero abilities in order to reign terror on the town. You hate the reign of Santa Claus, and you want to see his downfall, and the downfall of Christmas for this cursed town.
Action: You may blitz a player each night. They will either be roleblocked or blackmailed.
Upgrade: You will be able to choose the effect of your target (Roleblocking or Blackmailing).
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Grinch - MD (Framer)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
You've never been one to have a heart. The Town has tried to change your ways, but in the end, you kept to your twisted nature of a passionate hatred towards Christmas. Although, you don't hold the same ideals as the Scrooge in spreading the mischeer. Instead, you ruin the lives of others by giving the impression of their mischeer and naughtiness.
Action: You may frame a player as Naughty.
Upgrade: You will be allowed to frame two players each night.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Gremlin - MD (Janitor)

You are aligned with Mafia.
You may talk with your Mafia Partners, <players>, in the PT here.
Despite your cute appearance, you hold a dark secret. You have a mission to destroy Christmas, and all that it stands for. You spend your nights tending to the kills of your fellow partners, hiding the truth they hold from the rest of the town.
Action: You may clean up the role of a player. You may do this twice.
Upgrade: You will be allowed to clean up a role a third time.
Win Condition: When all threats to the Mafia are eliminated (Krampus), and Mafia controls the Majority of the population.

Neutral

Krampus - NK (Serial Killer)

You are aligned with Yourself.
You are the counterpart to Santa Claus. Instead of rewarding children for good behavior, you punish children for bad behavior. There's just one problem: You forgot which children in this town are Naughty. With the arrival of Santa Claus, you've decided to take it upon yourself to punish the evildoers of this Town, and no one is good enough for your list.
You cannot kill the Innocent Child.
Action: You may kill a player each night.
Upgrade: You will rampage at your target's home.
Win Condition: When all evildoers of the town are eliminated. (Last Player standing, save for Innocent Child).

Lunatic - NE (Jester)

You are aligned with Yourself.
You're the loon of the town. You have no care for the magic that is Christmas. Instead, you've taken a haunting interest in the gloom, depressing nature of the dead. You, with the crazy nature you follow, want the town to believe you are naughty, in order to fulfill your disturbing interest in the dead. Once achieved, you take your revenge on those who voted for your demise, only to feed your lunacy.
Action: You have no night action. If you are lynched, you may take your revenge on one of those who voted for you.
Upgrade: You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When you are lynched.

Rogue Elf - NC (Vampire Leader)

You are aligned with Yourself.
You want to run this town, you and your fellow Elflings. Santa still believes your innocent, but in secret, you've been plotting his downfall in order to take on the role of Santa Claus yourself. Each night, you recruit people into your band of Misfits and Outcasts. Your goal is to take down the Reign of Santa Claus, and control the majority of the Town in order to take Christmas for yourself.
Action: You may convert a player to the Rogue Faction each night.
Upgrade: Any player you convert will now be unable to convert back into their original role.
Win Condition: When the Rogue Faction controls the majority of the Population.

Elfling - NC (Vampire) (Sub-role)

You are aligned with Yourself.
You were recruited by the Rogue Elf to take this town for yourselves. You're here only to spread the joyous wonders of the newcoming of Santa Claus. Despite your campaigns, you yourself don't know the Rogue Elf, you only blindly follow their will to the end.
You will convert back to your original role upon the death of the Rogue Elf. This bypasses the upgrade of the Rogue Elf.
Action: You may convert a player to the Rogue Faction each night.
Upgrade: You cannot receive a gift from Santa Claus.
Win Condition: When the Rogue Faction controls the majority of the Population.

Setup

▼Setup

Players

1. ZeldaXD
4. Onjit
6. Mutantdevle
8. GregBot
9. HugoTse (Revived)
11. AllenCaspe9510
13. Pqwerty

Graveyard

Raprap (Caroler)
NorwegianboyEE (Caroler)
Peace (Stickler)
Crybaby (Caroler)
2B55B5G TNG (Stickler)
Kira (Gremlin)

Pqwerty · 2019-12-22 06:51:14

So, I think if 2 people die tonight, it’s going to be confirmed that we have a Krampus because I don’t think Vig would waste a shot N1.

1 person dying doesn’t confirm anything, though.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-29 06:10:53

Peace, what makes you think Hugo is Rudolph? I'm pretty sure what Hugo meant in post #186 is the longer he lives, the more scummier he'll look. And I'm pretty sure it was a joke. I don't see Hugo as a Rudolph. He's still alive, why don't we ask him?

Hugo what did you mean in post #186?

Also Gregbot, this isn't a big deal but why did you ask Norweg if lynching Hugo was a good idea (post #54) and then tell people to not policy lynch Hugo?

I understand that your reasons for lynching Hugo now are because Peace and Allen (the Jester) are both vehemently defending him, but what caused the switch between asking if lynching him was a good idea and not wanting to policy lynch him? Was it just the D1 lack of information causing you to randomly pick someone?

▼ This is a message for Gregbot only

Pqwerty · 2019-12-29 06:21:31

#89 was the post where Gregbot didn't want a policy lynch on Hugo. Sorry for not citing.

Pqwerty · 2019-12-31 08:47:18

Lynch Gregbot

In #130, he says that he wants to lynch peace (because peace wanted to lynch raprap over Hugo). He continues in #143 to say that peace and Hugo are potentially scum partners. When the town said to lynch peace instead, he was okay with the lynch on peace (#258).

However, 2 hours before the end of the day, Gregbot unlynches peace (#293).

The only reason he would do that is because he was defending peace. He didn't want to lynch one of his partners.

He can't argue that he unlynched because he was trying to get more discussion going (or to get the carolers to pick their target) before the end of the day because there were only 2 hours left on the timer and the town has been extremely inactive. There's no way that the town would get any use out of 2 hours if they already used 70 of them yelling at Allen.

Also, the carolers D2 statistically favored the mafia if they "pre-selected" who they'd sing to during the day. This idea was initially proposed by Gregbot D1 (post #120) and promoted by peace (#297).

On D2, there were 4 town PRs (Santa, Mrs. Claus, 2 random town PRs), 3 carolers, 3 mafia, and a Jester, for a grand total of 11 people.

The only people that could benefit from a carol in this situation were the 2 town PRs and the 3 mafia, because Santa, Mrs. Claus, and the Jester can't receive upgrades and if any caroler was sung to, they would not be able to reach the 3 carolers required for the one-night boost (assuming you can't sing to yourself).

The only favorable outcomes are when a town PR gets buffed. The only unfavorable outcome is when a mafia gets buffed.

Assuming a mafia got lynched D2, there was a 20% chance of a favorable outcome, and 20% unfavorable.
Assuming a PR got lynched D2, there was a 10% chance of a favorable outcome, and a 30% unfavorable.
Assuming a caroler got lynched, there was a 0% chance of a favorable/unfavorable outcome because it would be impossible to get 3 carolers to sing to the same person.

Also, let's assume that if the carolers didn't cooperate then there was basically a 0% chance that town or mafia would be buffed. In the eyes of the mafia, they can either have a 20 or 30% chance of getting buffed (where the carolers cooperate) or a 0% chance. So, if they got the carolers to cooperate, they would be in a better position. Not to mention the fact that on the surface, coordinating the carolers seems like the right thing to do.

Also, if the carolers knew that they could only sing to a PR, the person they picked would probably be killed by the mafia because it is someone the carolers saw as a PR.

In conclusion, there are no reasonable excuses for Gregbot's unvote on peace, and the plan to coordinate the carolers can only be interpreted as having scummy intent (because it favors the mafia). Therefore, Greg must be scum.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-01 02:02:22

I’m pretty sure Allen is our neutral, so we probably have a Frosty.

I understand that you wanted more information out of Peace, but he didn’t really do anything helpful D2 and I don’t think he would’ve done anything 2 hours before plurality.

The only other thing that’s weird to me is Onjit and Kira’s /s posting, but I think they’re just memers in general.

Onjit

Pqwerty · 2020-01-01 03:45:25

You’re talking to the dead, Mutant.

GregBot, 2b55b5g, mutantdevle

Pqwerty · 2020-01-01 18:58:21

New Year’s Resolution, I guess.

mutantdevle

Pqwerty · 2020-01-01 19:09:10

GregBot wrote:

If Allen is our neutral lunatic, the second kill must have been done by a Vigilante.
But why would they kill HugoTse and not Allen?

Wasn’t the whole lynch on Peace and Hugo a thing because of how hard Peace defended Hugo? We were under the assumption that if Peace flipped mafia, then so was Hugo.

Also, there’s no need to shoot Allen as long as we don’t lynch him. It would be a waste of kill when the town wins from killing mafia, not the jester. It also helps stop the mafia from getting a majority.

I think the Vig made the right move.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-02 17:33:11

Well there's 12 hours left and I don't want to get plurality lynched.

I claim Angel.

I hope there's not an RB.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-02 17:57:58

N1 - I protected TNG because there wasn't much information D1, so it was kind of random.
N2 - I protected Onjit because I thought he and Kira were Santa and Mrs. Claus for always riding each others wagons that's what she said.

Before I die, I just want to give a list of reads.
Mutant - bored town because he got caroler role and doesn't want to do much with it (#184).
Onjit - bored town (memeing all game)
Kira - bored town (memeing all game up until now)

ZeldaXD - bored town/maf because they have been silent all day, and the only attacking they've done is on the jester. Because they haven't even tried looking for a mafia, I think they could be one of them.

TNG - mafia/santa. Mafia because he also hasn't been scumhunting, but also because in #269 heheh, nice he defends peace's wild claim that Hugo could be Rudolph. The only reason I think he could be Santa is because #269 could have been a subtle defense for Mrs. Claus. If people believed that Hugo was Rudolph, they would be keeping Mrs. Claus alive.

Greg - mafia. Again because of his unlynch on peace 2 hours before end of day and the coordination of carolers, which gives the mafia a 20% chance of being upgraded instead of the 0% from random. You could argue that town also gets a 20% chance, but town really should be risk-averse and not give the mafia any chance of buffs.

I still have no idea who the vig is, but I assume it's Mutant, Onjit, or Kira. I don't think it matters though when it's more important to find the mafia.

I'm okay with dying today because town can afford a mislynch and a missed shot from vig before it is mylo.

2b55b5g, mutantdevle

Pqwerty · 2020-01-04 07:18:11

Is this the magic hard-confirm you were talking about Greg? Are you Rudolf?

Also, I protected Mutant last night.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-04 07:35:52

lynch ZeldaXD

It’s just process of elimination. You’re the person I scumread the most.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-04 17:16:54

Yeah Onjit. In #371, I said already that I protected Mutant.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-04 17:19:29

Hey Zelda, why didn’t you shoot anyone if you’re Frosty?

Pqwerty · 2020-01-04 23:17:39

ZeldaXD wrote:

Pqwerty wrote:
Hey Zelda, why didn’t you shoot anyone if you’re Frosty?
Because I only have one shoot remaining and there was the possibility of accidentally shooting Santa, you also say that as if it was a requirement for me to shoot someone every night when I didn't shoot anyone N1 either. As evidence of me being Frosty I pushed the angle of letting vigilante get rid of Allen, but when peace flipped mafia I isolated his posts and decided HugoTse was a better shoot.

I thought you would shoot someone because it would be a waste if Vig died with 1 shot left. But you’re right, it’d be better if the Vig got shot than to have the Vig accidentally shooting Santa.

I think it’s between you and Kira.

The main reason I asked “why didn’t you kill someone” is because in #356, Kira has a reason to not shoot someone (because he has no idea who to believe).

Also, #377 would be throwing if he was mafia, right?

Pqwerty · 2020-01-05 19:04:46

ZeldaXD wrote:

Pqwerty are you going to change your vote? HugoTse are you going to vote?

Yeah. I’ll help Kira end his suffering. If it’s a mislynch, it’s still 5 vs 1 (Allen doesn’t count). But I’m confident it’s between you and Kira.

vote Kira

Pqwerty · 2020-01-06 06:33:11

Diff, how do I woot a post more than once?

I need to woot the above post at least 12 more times.

Pqwerty · 2020-01-07 03:49:12

GG ig.

MVP goes to Onjit for the assassination and win

This was a tough game considering it felt like everyone gave up. I still tried at one point.
All my reads were wrong but it was still the funnest part with so little information.

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