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#101 2019-12-09 09:38:54

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Pqwerty wrote:

So Zelda, you’re okay with losing? I’ve told you many times that it’s not possible to fulfill your win condition.

But if you’re okay with losing, there’s nothing I can do.

Stop lying to Zelda, there's literally no way he can win. Here's what happens if Zelda joins the infected:

- The day would end in a no lynch. You'd need 4 votes to lynch someone and since Zelda would be voting for diff no one would be lynched unless the town decided to let them be lynched.
- (If anything, Zelda voting for diff would just cause all of the town to switch over to voting diff to kill him instead).
- peace would be roleblocked again, so the night would end with 2 infected, 1 mafia, 1 hitman and 3 town.

- the 4 scum players team up to lynch a town member (probably shadow), Zelda dies in the night for not infecting anyone and peace shoots the hitman.
- now there's 1 infected, 1 mafia and 2 town.

- congratulations, town now get to decide which faction wins. Given Zelda's betrayal, which do you think we'd choose?
- If peace is stupid and shoots a town member instead all it changes is that 1 of the scum (infected, mafia or hitman) has to plead with the town member to make them vote with them. Again, who do you think the town is gonna side with?




The infected can't win because they'd need to keep recruiting a new member each day to make up for the one that dies. However, since you can't lynch someone and recruit someone in the same day, you don't have enough power to ever control the game and I 100% guarantee the town sides with the mafia.


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#102 2019-12-10 09:43:44

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:

as soon as we lynch pqwerty the game's over because Kirby filled his win condition. And if we kill me then JaWaPa fills his. CLEARLY the only way forward is through infection that's how this works right guys help

But yeah Shadow/Slab/Devle what's your guys win conditions

My win condition is to eliminate everyone not aligned with town.

I assume that if the game does end with the lynch of either of you based on those win conditions then town aligned players win by default. If they don't then that'd be some next-level ****.


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#103 2019-12-10 09:45:18

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:

also devle my gf really likes your username and thinks it's adorable not trying to flatter you or anything definitely not trying to sway your decision making ijs

<3



!vote pqwerty

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#104 2019-12-10 10:53:41

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

What a buzzkill.


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#105 2019-12-10 11:25:26

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

pqwerty's targets were peace, Slabdrill and diff... big oof right there.


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#106 2019-12-10 11:51:29

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Who's hose next? I have a setup ready to go that's based around all of the roles being fun (at least, I consider them fun) but I'm not so sure people want another role heavy closed setup that has little thought put into balance.


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#107 2019-12-10 11:51:50

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Who's hosting* next?


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#108 2019-12-10 12:10:47

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Yes in the sense that there's some hidden mechanics. But there's nothing like "oh, you thought you were winning? Think again sucker!".


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#109 2019-12-10 17:10:00

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Different55 wrote:

Called it, y'all should have joined my happy band of Fever while you had the chance.

I'd rather be lynched as an innocent child by a joke wagon on day 1 than see your vile germs through to victory.


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#110 2019-12-10 17:54:11

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

mrjawapa wrote:

I've never felt more betrayed and used //forums.everybodyedits.com/img/smilies/sad

I don't think I've shared the story of mutant and the phishing scam. Whatever pain your feeling right now let me assure you that it's nothing compared to investing weeks into a game where you were doing so incredibly well role wise, narrowing down reads, getting closer and closer to catching all the mafia and even setting up a deadman's switch to flood the town with the information they need to finish the mafia off after your death only to find out that the person who you trusted more than your own mason partner was mafia all along thus ruining your plan and negating all of the hard work you put into solving the game with the plot twist that the mafia were one step ahead of you the whole time.


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#111 2019-12-10 19:10:18

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

Pqwerty wrote:

Which game was that?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=76501

It was simultaneously the worst and best game I've ever played. My campaigning was successful, the town block was strong, given the opportunity we could have lynch 2/4 of the scum, a strong plan was in place that would have allowed me to dictate the lynch onto those people whilst heavily narrowing the lynch pool. I was killed the day before the plan went into action but it didn't matter because I had someone to execute it on my behalf.

There were just 2 problems. First of all, one of the mafia members almost got lynched early in the game but had successfully fake claimed as a third party to survive. And secondly, the person executing my plan turned out to be mafia. They had been manipulating me the entire game causing a few key people to be kept outside the town block. They knew every aspect of my every move and they were able to use that to manipulate the voting (voting in this context is different). From my position, things looked incredibly strong the entire game, the person who betrayed me was my strongest town read and I never suspected a trap (nor did my mason partner).

So basically the plan successfully identified 2 mafia members whilst being tricked by the other 2. 1 of which was able to prevent us from lynching the 2 mafia members identified.


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#112 2019-12-10 19:49:06

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Re: Mafia 36 [KIRBY WINS!]

There are at least 30+ more pages in PTs lol.


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